no system is perfect, but yes it is hard to discuss if you just say it is broke and won't discuss at all your "fixes". have a good oneFlorida Hokie wrote:I appreciate that you have repeated the same, as to yet unargued by anyone here, position. Why don't we just leave it at that. I'll mark you down as a "the system works perfectly as is".cwtcr hokie wrote:summarize for me, what crimes are we getting rid of? what drugs are legal?. And yes, again for a huge part of the American population we realize there is a consequence for breaking written laws and CHOOSE not to put ourselves in that position thus most people do not end up in jail. As for example considering how many crimes are never tried and handled long before court that person you describe is not likely to get sent away for three strikes in your scenario. But I will ask again, how many crimes are you giving someone? A lot of the folks I see on the new committing crimes somehow they are still among us with a rap sheet that is pages long.... hmmmm
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and keep in mind that a great many charges are never prosecuted as the work load is so large for the prosecuters that they drop many cases as not enough time to deal with them thus the fact that somebody can have 20+ charges on their record and spent 1 day in jail. Which helps the socio-economically disadvantage IMO133743Hokie wrote:Pleading out vs. Going to trial is actually why MORE socio-economically disadvantaged people are in prison. The poor plea. The middle class has attorneys.cwtcr hokie wrote:reform it how, what specific laws are you getting rid of? then lets talk, what drugs are legal, all of them or just pot. I mean heroin is great (for the people hooked on it, not so great for society as a whole) So what drugs do you want legal? What crimes are you saying are worth going to prison for. I mean sex between two humans, why is that illegal, how do you know wether the 14 year old the 30 year old is banging is advanced for her age, no violence, consensual so no prison, right?Florida Hokie wrote:So you don't think there is any need for reform in the criminal justice system? If so, that's fine. Just say so.cwtcr hokie wrote:well if you steal a car that is not a violent crime so why send those folks that ignore that law to prison, right? punishments are a deterrent to some, for others that don't give a damn what the laws are they are a minor nuisance until they end up in prison, then it sucks for themFlorida Hokie wrote:I'm wrong about what? You don't think there is any need for prison reform at all? Are you a throw the baby out with the bathwater kinda guy?USN_Hokie wrote:Until they rename it #cut16, you're still wrong.
Yes there are some dumb laws and any gov function can be reformed but the best best best way to lower the rapidly rising crime rates and prison population is for the dumb asses that commit crimes and ignore laws....TO STOP DOING THAT OR NEVER START TO BEGIN WITH!
Stat I saw the other day 96% of charges never get to trial, plea bargained or dismissed. So all those folks that decide laws do not apply to them usually never go to jail to start with and realize there is zero punishment for ignoring laws. Or what is your explanation for people that have 20 or more charges on their police record?
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Nope, I dominate posting topics and opinions. The dumbasses get called dumbass ya dumbass. "Most" people as you're referring are a small handful of likeminded wankers like yourself. Bottom line is it's shameful how you took upon yourself to run off someone who contributed thousands more than you. Letting love guide your way, dick head.Florida Hokie wrote:Your only contribution to this board is calling everyone a dumbass and being as racist as you can - about 10,000 more times than anyone else.awesome guy wrote:Your only contribution to the board is ranting and raving about Oakton. And he's the girl? LOLFlorida Hokie wrote:The little girl is the one that ran off because he couldn't play in the sandbox.
But at least I now know the source of your anguish. Don't worry. Oakie is still looming I'm sure and he'll be back with his daily parade of Rush updates.
I started a post with a topic for discussion that you came in and acted like a shithead from the word go.
MOST people are glad Oakie's gone and would be if you were too. The difference between you and me is I can turn off being a dick when I want. It's innate in you.
It is HYSTERICAL that you are, as USN would say "butt hurt" over Oakie's absence considering how you used to insist you didn't treat him differently.
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I've addressed a number of points. Plus I pointed you to an online platform that explains with the fixes should be. For some reason you either won't read it or don't care to and continue with the same tired argument.cwtcr hokie wrote:no system is perfect, but yes it is hard to discuss if you just say it is broke and won't discuss at all your "fixes". have a good oneFlorida Hokie wrote:I appreciate that you have repeated the same, as to yet unargued by anyone here, position. Why don't we just leave it at that. I'll mark you down as a "the system works perfectly as is".cwtcr hokie wrote:summarize for me, what crimes are we getting rid of? what drugs are legal?. And yes, again for a huge part of the American population we realize there is a consequence for breaking written laws and CHOOSE not to put ourselves in that position thus most people do not end up in jail. As for example considering how many crimes are never tried and handled long before court that person you describe is not likely to get sent away for three strikes in your scenario. But I will ask again, how many crimes are you giving someone? A lot of the folks I see on the new committing crimes somehow they are still among us with a rap sheet that is pages long.... hmmmm
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Yes. I'm the reason he left. When the haze of whatever narcotic wears off I'd like you to read back through what you have just written and tell me that it doesn't appear to be a love letter to Oakton. You're only missing the quote of any typical teenage girl. You just don't understand them like I do!awesome guy wrote:Nope, I dominate posting topics and opinions. The dumbasses get called dumbass ya dumbass. "Most" people as you're referring are a small handful of likeminded wankers like yourself. Bottom line is it's shameful how you took upon yourself to run off someone who contributed thousands more than you. Letting love guide your way, dick head.Florida Hokie wrote:Your only contribution to this board is calling everyone a dumbass and being as racist as you can - about 10,000 more times than anyone else.awesome guy wrote:Your only contribution to the board is ranting and raving about Oakton. And he's the girl? LOLFlorida Hokie wrote:The little girl is the one that ran off because he couldn't play in the sandbox.
But at least I now know the source of your anguish. Don't worry. Oakie is still looming I'm sure and he'll be back with his daily parade of Rush updates.
I started a post with a topic for discussion that you came in and acted like a shithead from the word go.
MOST people are glad Oakie's gone and would be if you were too. The difference between you and me is I can turn off being a dick when I want. It's innate in you.
It is HYSTERICAL that you are, as USN would say "butt hurt" over Oakie's absence considering how you used to insist you didn't treat him differently.
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So you admit to being everything I said you are and your defense is "so is Oakton!". You go girl. Imagine how he would have responded if you weren't a dick to him ...Florida Hokie wrote:Yes. I'm the reason he left. When the haze of whatever narcotic wears off I'd like you to read back through what you have just written and tell me that it doesn't appear to be a love letter to Oakton. You're only missing the quote of any typical teenage girl. You just don't understand them like I do!awesome guy wrote:Nope, I dominate posting topics and opinions. The dumbasses get called dumbass ya dumbass. "Most" people as you're referring are a small handful of likeminded wankers like yourself. Bottom line is it's shameful how you took upon yourself to run off someone who contributed thousands more than you. Letting love guide your way, dick head.Florida Hokie wrote:Your only contribution to this board is calling everyone a dumbass and being as racist as you can - about 10,000 more times than anyone else.awesome guy wrote:Your only contribution to the board is ranting and raving about Oakton. And he's the girl? LOLFlorida Hokie wrote:The little girl is the one that ran off because he couldn't play in the sandbox.
But at least I now know the source of your anguish. Don't worry. Oakie is still looming I'm sure and he'll be back with his daily parade of Rush updates.
I started a post with a topic for discussion that you came in and acted like a shithead from the word go.
MOST people are glad Oakie's gone and would be if you were too. The difference between you and me is I can turn off being a dick when I want. It's innate in you.
It is HYSTERICAL that you are, as USN would say "butt hurt" over Oakie's absence considering how you used to insist you didn't treat him differently.
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So you admit to being everything I said you are and your defense is "so is Oakton!". You go girl. Imagine how he would have responded if you weren't a dick to him ...[/quote]
The first part of what I said was sarcasm as clearly open decided to leave on his own. Clearly he did not blame me. If you read his post he claimed that no one was responding to what he was posting. He wasn't feeling that he was getting value from the board.
Oakton was pretty much a dick so I'm not sure how he would have responded if I hadn't been a dick back to him. I'm guessing it would have been a failed experiment
The first part of what I said was sarcasm as clearly open decided to leave on his own. Clearly he did not blame me. If you read his post he claimed that no one was responding to what he was posting. He wasn't feeling that he was getting value from the board.
Oakton was pretty much a dick so I'm not sure how he would have responded if I hadn't been a dick back to him. I'm guessing it would have been a failed experiment
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Florida Hokie wrote:So you admit to being everything I said you are and your defense is "so is Oakton!". You go girl. Imagine how he would have responded if you weren't a dick to him ...
The first part of what I said was sarcasm as clearly open decided to leave on his own. Clearly he did not blame me. If you read his post he claimed that no one was responding to what he was posting. He wasn't feeling that he was getting value from the board.
Oakton was pretty much a dick so I'm not sure how he would have responded if I hadn't been a dick back to him. I'm guessing it would have been a failed experiment[/quote]
Oakton was childish, not a dick. You're a dick. There is a difference. And it's hilarious how you assume he would have have been a dick if you ever stopped being a dick. That's the type of thinking that makes most people believe that you're girlish.
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Oakton was childish, not a dick. You're a dick. There is a difference. And it's hilarious how you assume he would have have been a dick if you ever stopped being a dick. That's the type of thinking that makes most people believe that you're girlish.[/quote]awesome guy wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:So you admit to being everything I said you are and your defense is "so is Oakton!". You go girl. Imagine how he would have responded if you weren't a dick to him ...
The first part of what I said was sarcasm as clearly open decided to leave on his own. Clearly he did not blame me. If you read his post he claimed that no one was responding to what he was posting. He wasn't feeling that he was getting value from the board.
Oakton was pretty much a dick so I'm not sure how he would have responded if I hadn't been a dick back to him. I'm guessing it would have been a failed experiment
Ok. If you call me a Dick, I'm probably on the right track so thanks. Goodnight sweet Prince. Read your Bible tonight and don't forget to skip all the love thy neighbour parts.
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Florida Hokie wrote:Oakton was childish, not a dick. You're a dick. There is a difference. And it's hilarious how you assume he would have have been a dick if you ever stopped being a dick. That's the type of thinking that makes most people believe that you're girlish.awesome guy wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:So you admit to being everything I said you are and your defense is "so is Oakton!". You go girl. Imagine how he would have responded if you weren't a dick to him ...
The first part of what I said was sarcasm as clearly open decided to leave on his own. Clearly he did not blame me. If you read his post he claimed that no one was responding to what he was posting. He wasn't feeling that he was getting value from the board.
Oakton was pretty much a dick so I'm not sure how he would have responded if I hadn't been a dick back to him. I'm guessing it would have been a failed experiment
Ok. If you call me a Dick, I'm probably on the right track so thanks. Goodnight sweet Prince. Read your Bible tonight and don't forget to skip all the love thy neighbour parts.[/quote]
Goodnight dick. Don't stay up past your bedtime.
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every time we had one of these silly back and forths, there is one person involved.
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Absolute or FloHo. I like how your only contribution is to whine about me.HvilleHokie wrote:every time we had one of these silly back and forths, there is one person involved.
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Florida Hokie wrote:Have you actually listened to Van Jones speak on the topic? That's not what he's saying. He DOES represent that it is unfair against black males and to that I'd agree.USN_Hokie wrote:I do, but you're asking me to jump into the same trap that Republicans/conservatives fall for every time. Newt is a whore and Van Jones only wants to do this because he thinks the system is targeting blacks for incarceration - he'd probably release all of them if he could.
How exactly is it unfair to black males?
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Florida Hokie wrote:I've addressed a number of points. Plus I pointed you to an online platform that explains with the fixes should be. For some reason you either won't read it or don't care to and continue with the same tired argument.cwtcr hokie wrote:no system is perfect, but yes it is hard to discuss if you just say it is broke and won't discuss at all your "fixes". have a good oneFlorida Hokie wrote:I appreciate that you have repeated the same, as to yet unargued by anyone here, position. Why don't we just leave it at that. I'll mark you down as a "the system works perfectly as is".cwtcr hokie wrote:summarize for me, what crimes are we getting rid of? what drugs are legal?. And yes, again for a huge part of the American population we realize there is a consequence for breaking written laws and CHOOSE not to put ourselves in that position thus most people do not end up in jail. As for example considering how many crimes are never tried and handled long before court that person you describe is not likely to get sent away for three strikes in your scenario. But I will ask again, how many crimes are you giving someone? A lot of the folks I see on the new committing crimes somehow they are still among us with a rap sheet that is pages long.... hmmmm
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Or just not commit crimes that get you sent to prison..... I realize this point cannot be addressed, it involves personal choices and personal responsibility, can't deal with that I know
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Put it this way... of all the white people I know who regularly smoke(d) marijuana (and I know a bunch), my brother is the ONLY ONE who ever was charged with a simple possession. Once. Twenty years ago. He STILL habitually uses and never gets hassled about it.HokieJoe wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:Have you actually listened to Van Jones speak on the topic? That's not what he's saying. He DOES represent that it is unfair against black males and to that I'd agree.USN_Hokie wrote:I do, but you're asking me to jump into the same trap that Republicans/conservatives fall for every time. Newt is a whore and Van Jones only wants to do this because he thinks the system is targeting blacks for incarceration - he'd probably release all of them if he could.
How exactly is it unfair to black males?
FULL DISCLOSURE: I think Van Jones is a lying sack of shiite.
Black folks, on the other hand, especially males, are CONSTANTLY given grief over marijuana. That sh!t shouldn't even BE illegal, but the enforcement of that bullsh!t law is far more heavily applied to blacks and that's just a fact.
I don't care if you're a Democrat or a Republican... if you refuse to consider alternatives to the two parties, you support the Status Quo and you are a major part of the problem.
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I contend black users are generally dumber and smoke in public more, leading to more hassle. I have stoner friends too and they rarely light up in public. At least in view of others. My black friends on the other hand are always smoking in public or in a car in a public parking lot. The vehicle looks like something out of Cheech Chong with no doubt what's happening. Is what it is, they're just not as secretive and don't give a rip.Hokie CPA wrote:Put it this way... of all the white people I know who regularly smoke(d) marijuana (and I know a bunch), my brother is the ONLY ONE who ever was charged with a simple possession. Once. Twenty years ago. He STILL habitually uses and never gets hassled about it.HokieJoe wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:Have you actually listened to Van Jones speak on the topic? That's not what he's saying. He DOES represent that it is unfair against black males and to that I'd agree.USN_Hokie wrote:I do, but you're asking me to jump into the same trap that Republicans/conservatives fall for every time. Newt is a whore and Van Jones only wants to do this because he thinks the system is targeting blacks for incarceration - he'd probably release all of them if he could.
How exactly is it unfair to black males?
FULL DISCLOSURE: I think Van Jones is a lying sack of shiite.
Black folks, on the other hand, especially males, are CONSTANTLY given grief over marijuana. That sh!t shouldn't even BE illegal, but the enforcement of that bullsh!t law is far more heavily applied to blacks and that's just a fact.
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Let me guess. Your brother and your friends generally use in their own home, out on the back deck, etc. in suburban America. They work during the day and smoke nights and weekends. Very little police presence, certainly not patrolling. They come to problems when called.Hokie CPA wrote:Put it this way... of all the white people I know who regularly smoke(d) marijuana (and I know a bunch), my brother is the ONLY ONE who ever was charged with a simple possession. Once. Twenty years ago. He STILL habitually uses and never gets hassled about it.HokieJoe wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:Have you actually listened to Van Jones speak on the topic? That's not what he's saying. He DOES represent that it is unfair against black males and to that I'd agree.USN_Hokie wrote:I do, but you're asking me to jump into the same trap that Republicans/conservatives fall for every time. Newt is a whore and Van Jones only wants to do this because he thinks the system is targeting blacks for incarceration - he'd probably release all of them if he could.
How exactly is it unfair to black males?
FULL DISCLOSURE: I think Van Jones is a lying sack of shiite.
Black folks, on the other hand, especially males, are CONSTANTLY given grief over marijuana. That sh!t shouldn't even BE illegal, but the enforcement of that bullsh!t law is far more heavily applied to blacks and that's just a fact.
In urban areas, in particular low socio-economic areas, the police are out in force, constantly on patrol, and in numbers. In reality they put their resources where they are needed, where the majority of significant crime occurs and exists. As such they are going to interface with black guys smoking dope all of the time, not looking for it as much as coming across it. Many unemployed hanging out during the day drinking and smoking.
And you wonder why blacks and Hispanics get arrested more?
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This should just be your stock reply to everything as it pretty accurately reflects your views. At the very least it should be your signature.
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LOL. Everyone one can see what you left off idiot.absolutvt03 wrote:awesome guy wrote: I contend black users are generally dumber
This should just be your stock reply to everything as it pretty accurately reflects your views. At the very least it should be your signature.
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This is 100% true. Thank you for posting it.Hokie CPA wrote:Put it this way... of all the white people I know who regularly smoke(d) marijuana (and I know a bunch), my brother is the ONLY ONE who ever was charged with a simple possession. Once. Twenty years ago. He STILL habitually uses and never gets hassled about it.HokieJoe wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:Have you actually listened to Van Jones speak on the topic? That's not what he's saying. He DOES represent that it is unfair against black males and to that I'd agree.USN_Hokie wrote:I do, but you're asking me to jump into the same trap that Republicans/conservatives fall for every time. Newt is a whore and Van Jones only wants to do this because he thinks the system is targeting blacks for incarceration - he'd probably release all of them if he could.
How exactly is it unfair to black males?
FULL DISCLOSURE: I think Van Jones is a lying sack of shiite.
Black folks, on the other hand, especially males, are CONSTANTLY given grief over marijuana. That sh!t shouldn't even BE illegal, but the enforcement of that bullsh!t law is far more heavily applied to blacks and that's just a fact.
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This. When I grew up, white kids did drugs in their garage or basement while their parents were working. OTOH, when I worked in the city, I would see people doing drugs in alleys, cars, etc.. all the time. CPA is falling for the equal opportunity = equal outcome logic trap that liberals love.133743Hokie wrote:Let me guess. Your brother and your friends generally use in their own home, out on the back deck, etc. in suburban America. They work during the day and smoke nights and weekends. Very little police presence, certainly not patrolling. They come to problems when called.Hokie CPA wrote:Put it this way... of all the white people I know who regularly smoke(d) marijuana (and I know a bunch), my brother is the ONLY ONE who ever was charged with a simple possession. Once. Twenty years ago. He STILL habitually uses and never gets hassled about it.HokieJoe wrote:Florida Hokie wrote:Have you actually listened to Van Jones speak on the topic? That's not what he's saying. He DOES represent that it is unfair against black males and to that I'd agree.USN_Hokie wrote:I do, but you're asking me to jump into the same trap that Republicans/conservatives fall for every time. Newt is a whore and Van Jones only wants to do this because he thinks the system is targeting blacks for incarceration - he'd probably release all of them if he could.
How exactly is it unfair to black males?
FULL DISCLOSURE: I think Van Jones is a lying sack of shiite.
Black folks, on the other hand, especially males, are CONSTANTLY given grief over marijuana. That sh!t shouldn't even BE illegal, but the enforcement of that bullsh!t law is far more heavily applied to blacks and that's just a fact.
In urban areas, in particular low socio-economic areas, the police are out in force, constantly on patrol, and in numbers. In reality they put their resources where they are needed, where the majority of significant crime occurs and exists. As such they are going to interface with black guys smoking dope all of the time, not looking for it as much as coming across it. Many unemployed hanging out during the day drinking and smoking.
And you wonder why blacks and Hispanics get arrested more?
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That's what I've criticized you and all the RWNJ's here for.USN_Hokie wrote:#cut50
Yes it is. You guys sound like the folks who say we're going to balance the budget by cutting pork spending, or the military.
People who know, know.
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Please feel free to provide any link where I've said anything like that. Until then, just know that you're failing an even simpler math problem.TheH2 wrote:That's what I've criticized you and all the RWNJ's here for.USN_Hokie wrote:#cut50
Yes it is. You guys sound like the folks who say we're going to balance the budget by cutting pork spending, or the military.