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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:35 pm 
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But heavily armed and armored and hitting a soft target.

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Targeting a special needs center...despicable! :x :cry:

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If only these developmentally disabled adults and children had armed themselves...


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:08 pm 
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If only these developmentally disabled adults and children had armed themselves...


this does not appear to be a nutcase like the CO deal, per cnn three guys with rifles shot up the place and fled in a black suv and possibly left behind a bomb..... as I said before, just hope you are not in the same place when the terrorist strike on US soil.

As for your comment, yes people with arms would probably have lessened the number of people shot, these cowards do not want a fight, or else why hit a center that helps mentally disabled people?


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Oh good grief.

There are something like 10K gun homicides (not suicides) annually in the US. A tiny percentage of those are in these mass shootings.

And I have no earthly idea what the motivation could be - if it's one person, it could be one guy ticked off at how a relative was treated - but three? That sounds like terrorism, not just someone with an ax to grind. If it is terrorism, I don't know what the solution is, but I would certainly think terrorists would prefer to attack a target that can't fight back.

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"White men" wearing ski masks. But if this is terrorism and they shouted Allahu Akbar, we won't be able to rush to judgement.......like the "PP" shooter situation.....

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Are you serious?

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If only these developmentally disabled adults and children had armed themselves...

Obviously, the guns forced these idiots to do it.......

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Only partially.

I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.

Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.


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ElbertoHokie wrote:
Only partially.

I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.

Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.


cuz the folks inside have no way to defend themselves, unlike say shooting up a gun range or a police station.... duh


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ElbertoHokie wrote:
Only partially.

I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.

Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.


Terrorism? An easy target?

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ElbertoHokie wrote:
Only partially.

I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.

Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.


Terrorism? An easy target?


and as the same as Europe, to instill fear in the population


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Targeting a special needs center...despicable! :x :cry:

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"White men" wearing ski masks. But if this is terrorism and they shouted Allahu Akbar, we won't be able to rush to judgement.......like the "PP" shooter situation.....


Police scanner said "Hispanic or Middle Eastern...with a beard" Suspect / person of interest is: "Farooq Saeed"

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ElbertoHokie wrote:
Only partially.

I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.

Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.


A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.

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CWHOKIECPA wrote:
But heavily armed and armored and hitting a soft target.
Seems an odd target for a terrorist attack.


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One of the suspects is a county worker

Just heard another suspect name: Muhammed Hajid

Here's the scanner feed if anyone is interested: http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web

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Suspect at gun point on the golf course...gray van with weapons inside.

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One of the suspects is a county worker

Just heard another suspect name: Muhammed Hajid

Here's the scanner feed if anyone is interested: http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web


CNN analyst saying it looks like domestic terrorism by possibly militia.

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Suspect at gun point on the golf course...gray van with weapons inside.

A Volvo?

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One of the suspects is a county worker

Just heard another suspect name: Muhammed Hajid

Here's the scanner feed if anyone is interested: http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web


CNN analyst saying it looks like domestic terrorism by possibly militia.

The Islamic wing of the KKK?

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USN_Hokie wrote:
Suspect at gun point on the golf course...gray van with weapons inside.

A Volvo?


Gray Chysler mini van with weapons inside. Black SUV was found abandoned nearby.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
Suspect at gun point on the golf course...gray van with weapons inside.

A Volvo?


Gray Chysler mini van with weapons inside. Black SUV was found abandoned nearby.

Odd choice for a Swed.

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