USN_Hokie wrote:A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.ElbertoHokie wrote:Only partially.
I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.
Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.
Is this terrorism? I don't know.
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Not really. No change will be affected. We try and politicize these things to prevent them from happening but nothing is ever done. Everyone shrugs their shoulders and thinks how horrible it is that it happened, but in the back of their mind they never imagine it will happen to them. We have more mass shootings than any other 1st world country and we do nothing. It's just sad and embarrassing.
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Could be. It's a big mystery.Major Kong wrote:Maybe they're Finnawesome guy wrote:Odd choice for a Swed.
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Re: Is this terrorism? I don't know.
Please start a new thread if you want to bring up this tired BS again.ElbertoHokie wrote:Not really. No change will be affected. We try and politicize these things to prevent them from happening but nothing is ever done. Everyone shrugs their shoulders and thinks how horrible it is that it happened, but in the back of their mind they never imagine it will happen to them. We have more mass shootings than any other 1st world country and we do nothing. It's just sad and embarrassing.
USN_Hokie wrote:A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.ElbertoHokie wrote:Only partially.
I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.
Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.
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Tea Party members, no doubt.CWHOKIECPA wrote:CNN analyst saying it looks like domestic terrorism by possibly militia.USN_Hokie wrote:One of the suspects is a county worker
Just heard another suspect name: Muhammed Hajid
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Of course we do. What do you want done?ElbertoHokie wrote:Not really. No change will be affected. We try and politicize these things to prevent them from happening but nothing is ever done. Everyone shrugs their shoulders and thinks how horrible it is that it happened, but in the back of their mind they never imagine it will happen to them. We have more mass shootings than any other 1st world country and we do nothing. It's just sad and embarrassing.
USN_Hokie wrote:A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.ElbertoHokie wrote:Only partially.
I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.
Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.
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Take away the guns or give everyone a government issued firearm. Sounds good.
CWHOKIECPA wrote:Of course we do. What do you want done?ElbertoHokie wrote:Not really. No change will be affected. We try and politicize these things to prevent them from happening but nothing is ever done. Everyone shrugs their shoulders and thinks how horrible it is that it happened, but in the back of their mind they never imagine it will happen to them. We have more mass shootings than any other 1st world country and we do nothing. It's just sad and embarrassing.
USN_Hokie wrote:A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.ElbertoHokie wrote:Only partially.
I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.
Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.
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This appears to be a coordinated attack on US soil, how exactly are you going to stop it, please explainElbertoHokie wrote:Not really. No change will be affected. We try and politicize these things to prevent them from happening but nothing is ever done. Everyone shrugs their shoulders and thinks how horrible it is that it happened, but in the back of their mind they never imagine it will happen to them. We have more mass shootings than any other 1st world country and we do nothing. It's just sad and embarrassing.
USN_Hokie wrote:A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.ElbertoHokie wrote:Only partially.
I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.
Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.
We could not stop planes going into buildings in downtown NY and DC either, the reality is nobody can unless by some magic you know it will happen and when
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If only we had strict gun control...like France, or Norway...
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There have been roughly 3.6 million car accident deaths in the US since the invention of the car. Should vehicles be next? In 2011, there were three times the amount of car deaths to homicides. Suicides by gun make up around 64% of gun deaths.ElbertoHokie wrote:Take away the guns or give everyone a government issued firearm. Sounds good.
CWHOKIECPA wrote:Of course we do. What do you want done?ElbertoHokie wrote:Not really. No change will be affected. We try and politicize these things to prevent them from happening but nothing is ever done. Everyone shrugs their shoulders and thinks how horrible it is that it happened, but in the back of their mind they never imagine it will happen to them. We have more mass shootings than any other 1st world country and we do nothing. It's just sad and embarrassing.
USN_Hokie wrote:A bit early for this, isn't it? FWIW, it's been reported that it was a Christmas Party which was the focus of the attack. Whether that means "workplace violence" or terrorism we don't know, but everyone present should have been an employee and thus mentally / physically able to carry a gun and defend themselves if they weren't in a gun free zone and living in a state which doesn't recognize the word "bear" in the US Constitution.ElbertoHokie wrote:Only partially.
I just know that in this case, the argument that if everyone had a gun this wouldn't have happened doesn't hold up as well.
Assuming the black SUV and suspect descriptions are true, this sounds much more "professional" than a crazy person with a gun. Not sure why people would this training would attack a hospital of this nature.
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When do the youtube videos come up, pointing out the crisis actors?
I saw a bunch saying the Paris thing didn't happen.....
Anyway, picking on mentally disabled people. Geez, how low can you get?
I saw a bunch saying the Paris thing didn't happen.....
Anyway, picking on mentally disabled people. Geez, how low can you get?
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VOR is safe. Word is this facility is a hall that was rented by the country health department for a meeting. And it's the only building not secured on the grounds.Bay_area_Hokie wrote:When do the youtube videos come up, pointing out the crisis actors?
I saw a bunch saying the Paris thing didn't happen.....
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Already did two hours ago. Where have you been?Bay_area_Hokie wrote:When do the youtube videos come up, pointing out the crisis actors?
I saw a bunch saying the Paris thing didn't happen.....
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With names like Farooq Saeed and Muhammed Hajid, we definitely will not be allowed to jump to conclusions. This could have been motivated by anything.
Very different from the PP shooting where we instantly knew the motivation of the shooting - "right wing extremist rhetoric"
Very different from the PP shooting where we instantly knew the motivation of the shooting - "right wing extremist rhetoric"
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I've heard the words militia and ant-government on CNN.UpstateSCHokie wrote:With names like Farooq Saeed and Muhammed Hajid, we definitely will not be allowed to jump to conclusions. This could have been motivated by anything.
Very different from the PP shooting where we instantly knew the motivation of the shooting - "right wing extremist rhetoric"
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Police in pursuit of a black SUV
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That's racistUSN_Hokie wrote:Police in pursuit of a black SUV
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Looks like a man down.awesome guy wrote:That's racistUSN_Hokie wrote:Police in pursuit of a black SUV
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Looks like the suspects are cornered and firing at police.
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Glad the police have guns.ElbertoHokie wrote:Looks like the suspects are cornered and firing at police.
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Wow. That SUV looks like something out of a movie.CWHOKIECPA wrote:Glad the police have guns.ElbertoHokie wrote:Looks like the suspects are cornered and firing at police.
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Officer down
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Definitely Tea Party...this is the guy bleeding out in the street, FYI. You can see the sheen from his blood on the road.