I've made my choice for the General Election

[nolanvt]

Previously, I was going to vote for the Libertarian candidate or just abstain from voting. Now that it appears to be Trump v. Hillary, I've decided I'm voting for Hillary. It takes quite a bit from a Republican candidate for me to vote for the Democrat in the race given my voting record and it makes my skin crawl to think about it, but given the choice of her or Trump, I think she would do less damage to the country over the next four years.

It's been well-documented that Trump's a maniac (remember the Obama birther nonsense four years ago?) and not Presidential, but where he is on the issues is also driving my voting selection. I think some people are underestimating the impact of all these tariffs he wants to implement. We can't go back to a 1970s level economy (wasn't that decade great?!) because we want to bring back some manufacturing jobs in the rust belt. Doing so will only start trade wars whereby the costs of goods and services in the rest of the economy will be higher. Our economy has expanded at a greater rate under both Republican and Democratic Presidents since implementing various trade policies and treaties. Why in the world would we want to go backwards? If anything, we should be expanding our trade efforts. Hillary is to the right of Trump on this key issue, so I'm absolutely more comfortable with her on this front.

Us conservatives need to come to terms with this about Trump. He has no principles whatsoever (it was hilarious watching him tell people in KC that he is a devout Christian and them eating up his words). He did not become a Republican until he saw a political opportunity open up, and he, himself, has said he likes to cut deals. What deals will he cut on immigration? On Obamacare? On the budget? On judicial appointments? This is why, other than trade and possibly immigration, I don't see a big difference between him and Hillary. I think if Trump was more transparent about his stances, one could make a very good argument that he and Hillary are awfully similar, if not to her left with trade being the tiebreaker.

I don't want to vote for Hillary, but if her and Trump are my choices, I have to do what I believe is less damaging to our country and vote for Hillary.

[Bay_area_Hokie]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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[nolanvt]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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I vote Republican 80-85% of the time and laid out why I believe Hillary is more conservative than Trump on one of his key issues. Tariffs like the ones Trump is talking about have historically been supported by unions and Democrats, but we know why they're bad for our economy long-term. If you give me Rubio, Cruz, Kaisch, or basically any other (actual) Republican, I'd happily vote for them in November.

[UpstateSCHokie]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

[USN_Hokie]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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I vote Republican 80-85% of the time and laid out why I believe Hillary is more conservative than Trump on one of his key issues. Tariffs like the ones Trump is talking about have historically been supported by unions and Democrats, but we know why they're bad for our economy long-term. If you give me Rubio, Cruz, Kaisch, or basically any other (actual) Republican, I'd happily vote for them in November.

Concern troll is concerned, news at 11.

[nolanvt]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

[awesome guy]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Yep. Hillary had him at Benghazi

[HokieHam]

No need to justify it with us.....we knew it all along.

[UpstateSCHokie]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

#1, I'm a Cruz supporter, not a Trump supporter but I'll vote for Trump any day of the week & twice on Sunday over Hillary. Trump is running on many conservative ideas. Hillary is running on zero conservative ideas. That said, if trade is your single issue this election (instead of gay marriage), here's why Trump is better:

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. And I like how every election, the single issue you claim is the most (only one that's) important to you is the one that you like the democrats on. That's very convenient.

[HokieHam]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

#1, I'm a Cruz supporter, not a Trump supporter but I'll vote for Trump any day of the week & twice on Sunday over Hillary. Trump is running on many conservative ideas. Hillary is running on zero conservative ideas. That said, if trade is single issue this election (instead of gay marriage), here's why Trump is better:

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. That's very convenient.

The one issue that will make me vote for Trump if he's the nominee is the SCOtUS. At least we might have a chance of someone that does not legislate from the bench. With Killary, we know what we are going to get.....

[UpstateSCHokie]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

#1, I'm a Cruz supporter, not a Trump supporter but I'll vote for Trump any day of the week & twice on Sunday over Hillary. Trump is running on many conservative ideas. Hillary is running on zero conservative ideas. That said, if trade is single issue this election (instead of gay marriage), here's why Trump is better:

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. That's very convenient.

The one issue that will make me vote for Trump if he's the nominee is the SCOtUS. At least we might have a chance of someone that does not legislate from the bench. With Killary, we know what we are going to get.....

That's where I'm at. That is truly THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE in this election. Everything else pales in comparison. A vote for Hillary is a vote for 3-5 more Gingsburgs on the court and the destruction of the country.

[nolanvt]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

#1, I'm a Cruz supporter, not a Trump supporter but I'll vote for Trump any day of the week & twice on Sunday over Hillary. Trump is running on many conservative ideas. Hillary is running on zero conservative ideas. That said, if trade is single issue this election (instead of gay marriage), here's why Trump is better:

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. That's very convenient.

The one issue that will make me vote for Trump if he's the nominee is the SCOtUS. At least we might have a chance of someone that does not legislate from the bench. With Killary, we know what we are going to get.....

And you're sure you know what you're getting with Trump (lacks principles, cuts deals, etc.)?

[UpstateSCHokie]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

#1, I'm a Cruz supporter, not a Trump supporter but I'll vote for Trump any day of the week & twice on Sunday over Hillary. Trump is running on many conservative ideas. Hillary is running on zero conservative ideas. That said, if trade is single issue this election (instead of gay marriage), here's why Trump is better:

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. That's very convenient.

The one issue that will make me vote for Trump if he's the nominee is the SCOtUS. At least we might have a chance of someone that does not legislate from the bench. With Killary, we know what we are going to get.....

And you're sure you know what you're getting with Trump (lacks principles, cuts deals, etc.)?

Well we do know what we'll get with Hillary. Same as Obama and Bill. No way.

I'll take a guy that is surrounding himself with the likes of Jeff Sessions and Ben Carson over what we know Hillary will give us.

[HokieHam]

Nolan, nothing is funnier than you pretending you are not a liberal


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Exactly. Everyone here already knew who he was going to vote for before he made his drama queen announcement. But now that he's admitted that he's voting Hillary, I never want to hear him lay any claim to being a conservative.

Any real man with even a a thimble full of conservatism would never vote for this woman who admits her hatred and disdain for anything even slightly center right. Nolan is heading into David Brock territory.

I noticed in your emotional response that you were unable to address any of the substance in my post, particularly the free trade aspect. I'm interested in your thoughts on why Trump's plan to start trade wars is A) the conservative position and B) why it's better for our economy long-term.

#1, I'm a Cruz supporter, not a Trump supporter but I'll vote for Trump any day of the week & twice on Sunday over Hillary. Trump is running on many conservative ideas. Hillary is running on zero conservative ideas. That said, if trade is single issue this election (instead of gay marriage), here's why Trump is better:

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. That's very convenient.

The one issue that will make me vote for Trump if he's the nominee is the SCOtUS. At least we might have a chance of someone that does not legislate from the bench. With Killary, we know what we are going to get.....

And you're sure you know what you're getting with Trump (lacks principles, cuts deals, etc.)?

Notice I said "might"......

[nolanvt]

There's nothing "conservative" about a policy that calls for open borders where millions of illegals flood across our borders and flood our markets with cheap labor (i.e. willing to work for less than minimum wage). Hillary's position is to keep allowing our labor markets to be flooded with these people in exchange for voting socialist/democrat. Trump's is the opposite.

Appreciate your response and am in agreement with you here, but my doubts lie in how reliable Trump is. He has a history of flip flopping on the issues and likes to cut deals. We know getting Mexico to pay for the wall will be a non-starter, but what other deals will he cut on immigration? That's a concern of mine.

The quality of blue collar jobs in America (specifically manufacturing jobs) have all but evaporated since we've entered into trade agreements with China and since the passage of NAFTA. I'm all for free trade, but when you trade with countries that don't play by the same rules, then its time to change the rules to level the playing field. Our loss of manufacturing jobs is not only bad for Americans, its a threat to our national security because we don't have the manufacturing base to pump out a war machine the way we did in WWII. China has that capacity and much more in spades. Keeping the status quo wrt to trade with China is very short-sited and naive.

We need to start putting America first, and stop buying into this globalist bullshit that is great for large corporations, but is killing the average everyday American.

Everyone, including advocates of free trade, knew that some of those manufacturing jobs were going to be lost, but it has undoubtedly been better for our economy at a macro level. Trying to save a few manufacturing jobs at the expense of the rest of the nation's economy via trade wars that will hurt exports, make the cost of goods/services more expensive, etc. is much more short-sighted. We still have the infrastructure in place to manufacture what we need in the event of a larger scale war or other emergency.

BTW, I noticed you've modified your position. When it looked like Cruz still had a good shot at winning the nomination, you were saying you would not vote for Cruz. Rubio was the only one you would consider. Now suddenly you're saying you would have voted for any of the Republicans that look like they won't win. And I like how every election, the single issue you claim is the most (only one that's) important to you is the one that you like the democrats on. That's very convenient.

I go back and forth on Cruz. Cruz would normally never have a shot at the nomination, but this could be the exception where he's the only viable alternative to win the nomination other than Trump. I would vote for Cruz over Hillary, even though I'm not his biggest fan.

[RiverguyVT]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

[nolanvt]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

[RiverguyVT]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

That you would pretend to be lukewarm with Cruz, while at the same time proclaim Hillary! support (no ones been fooled, btw) shows me you aren't an issues oriented guy, but just a celebresident voter. Zero principle involved.

Literally...laughing over here.

[nolanvt]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

That you would pretend to be lukewarm with Cruz, while at the same time proclaim Hillary! support (no ones been fooled, btw) shows me you aren't an issues oriented guy, but just a celebresident voter. Zero principle involved.

Literally...laughing over here.

0 for 2 on addressing the substance of the issues.

[awesome guy]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

That you would pretend to be lukewarm with Cruz, while at the same time proclaim Hillary! support (no ones been fooled, btw) shows me you aren't an issues oriented guy, but just a celebresident voter. Zero principle involved.

Literally...laughing over here.

0 for 2 on addressing the substance of the issues.

He got ya. You and DC are conservatives all the time except election years. You even voted for a socialist for governor. No one is fooled.

[nolanvt]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

That you would pretend to be lukewarm with Cruz, while at the same time proclaim Hillary! support (no ones been fooled, btw) shows me you aren't an issues oriented guy, but just a celebresident voter. Zero principle involved.

Literally...laughing over here.

0 for 2 on addressing the substance of the issues.

He got ya. You and DC are conservatives all the time except election years. You even voted for a socialist for governor. No one is fooled.

Except for the overwhelming majority of the time I vote for Republicans, you're right. Who's the socialist you're referencing?

[awesome guy]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

That you would pretend to be lukewarm with Cruz, while at the same time proclaim Hillary! support (no ones been fooled, btw) shows me you aren't an issues oriented guy, but just a celebresident voter. Zero principle involved.

Literally...laughing over here.

0 for 2 on addressing the substance of the issues.

He got ya. You and DC are conservatives all the time except election years. You even voted for a socialist for governor. No one is fooled.

Except for the overwhelming majority of the time I vote for Republicans, you're right. Who's the socialist you're referencing?

At least one of your 3 elections was a vote for a guy wanting single payer healthcare. You're a #LOCK for whomever John Stewart or Jon Oliver tell you to vote for.

[ieatbacon]

I think I'm with you Nolan. I believe Hillary is a felon with regards to email, but Trump is dangerous on a different level. If Trump is likely to be blownout in the general (likely given his net favorability) I will vote third party so I can sleep at night. If it's close, I may pull the lever for Hillary.

Theres no outcome I see as good, but 4 more years of a D in office beats our country being represented by The Donald... We've survived the last 8.

[awesome guy]

I think I'm with you Nolan. I believe Hillary is a felon with regards to email, but Trump is dangerous on a different level. If Trump is likely to be blownout in the general (likely given his net favorability) I will vote third party so I can sleep at night. If it's close, I may pull the lever for Hillary.

Theres no outcome I see as good, but 4 more years of a D in office beats our country being represented by The Donald... We've survived the last 8.

Trump is dangerous to liberals wanting open borders, crapy trade deals, soft kisses blown to ISIS, and incompetent foreign policy.

[ieatbacon]

LMAO
Hillary?

Yeah... That's a well thought out vote. You're a man of unwavering principles. LOL

Emotional responses are emotional. At least Uppity is attempting to address the substance of the issues.

That you would pretend to be lukewarm with Cruz, while at the same time proclaim Hillary! support (no ones been fooled, btw) shows me you aren't an issues oriented guy, but just a celebresident voter. Zero principle involved.

Literally...laughing over here.

0 for 2 on addressing the substance of the issues.

He got ya. You and DC are conservatives all the time except election years. You even voted for a socialist for governor. No one is fooled.

The conservative litmus test is fascinating 1) what is nolan, dc, and others motivation for claiming to be consevative if they are not? 2) how do you expect to win elections if you want to kick out everyone that doesnt share your exact beliefs?