Breaking- Vegas to experiment with negative black jack

[CFB Apologist]

payouts.. because that is smart betting. When you win a 10 dollar hand, the payout will be 6 dollars. They are predicting record participation at the tables.

[BG Hokie]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

[ip_law-hokie]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

I respect betting the dog, but I didn't know that was the only way you can do it and not be a Moran.

[BigDave]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

Aren't the lopsided moneylines usually way out of balance between the + and - (sorry, I don't know what the right word is) just to keep you from doing that?

If you have a pick em, the moneylines might be +100 and -110, but if you have a team favored by 30, the moneylines might be -3000 and +2000.

[CFB Apologist]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

Aren't the lopsided moneylines usually way out of balance between the + and - (sorry, I don't know what the right word is) just to keep you from doing that?

If you have a pick em, the moneylines might be +100 and -110, but if you have a team favored by 30, the moneylines might be -3000 and +2000.

Correct and these fools do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet

[HvilleHokie]

payouts.. because that is smart betting. When you win a 10 dollar hand, the payout will be 6 dollars. They are predicting record participation at the tables.

It depends on the odds of winning. If I bet on vt to beat uva in football, chances are I'm going to win most years. So even on a negative money line, I'm going to come out ahead.

[CFB Apologist]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

Money line betting on a heavy favorite, you will never come out "on top", because you have to bet more than you can possibly win.. I don't know how you could ever catch up betting $400.00 to win $100.00 - the typical Tyson scenario. You could however "straight bet" VT to win and cover the spread and win 90 cents on the dollar- a much closer "payoff"

[CFB Apologist]

payouts.. because that is smart betting. When you win a 10 dollar hand, the payout will be 6 dollars. They are predicting record participation at the tables.

It depends on the odds of winning. If I bet on vt to beat uva in football, chances are I'm going to win most years. So even on a negative money line, I'm going to come out ahead.

How? when you bet 11 dollars to win 10, no matter how many times it hits, you are going to put in more than you win.

[CFB Apologist]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

I respect betting the dog, but I didn't know that was the only way you can do it and not be a Moran.

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

[ip_law-hokie]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

I respect betting the dog, but I didn't know that was the only way you can do it and not be a Moran.

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

Please explain

[CFB Apologist]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

I respect betting the dog, but I didn't know that was the only way you can do it and not be a Moran.

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

Please explain

OK

[HooFighter]

Money line betting on a heavy favorite, you will never come out "on top", because you have to bet more than you can possibly win.. I don't know how you could ever catch up betting $400.00 to win $100.00 - the typical Tyson scenario. You could however "straight bet" VT to win and cover the spread and win 90 cents on the dollar- a much closer "payoff"

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

No, I'm pretty sure you don't understand how a moneyline bet works.

[CFB Apologist]

Money line betting on a heavy favorite, you will never come out "on top", because you have to bet more than you can possibly win.. I don't know how you could ever catch up betting $400.00 to win $100.00 - the typical Tyson scenario. You could however "straight bet" VT to win and cover the spread and win 90 cents on the dollar- a much closer "payoff"

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

No, I'm pretty sure you don't understand how a moneyline bet works.

I know exactly how it works. You pick a winner - no point spread - and the payoff is the money line figure related to the bet you place... +300, -300, -420, etc.

[HooFighter]

Gee, you're right. You can "never come out on top" when betting on a heavy favorite. Why would I go and place a $600 bet on Mike Tyson when at -600 when I can only win a measly $100 for that? I'm out $500!!!!!

God you are brilliant. Please let me know the next time you go to Vegas so I can tag along.

[BG Hokie]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

Aren't the lopsided moneylines usually way out of balance between the + and - (sorry, I don't know what the right word is) just to keep you from doing that?

If you have a pick em, the moneylines might be +100 and -110, but if you have a team favored by 30, the moneylines might be -3000 and +2000.

Correct, they are definitely not in synch. No doubt about that, however, my question is still valid. Tyson had a bunch of dominant wins leading up to the epic upset loss. Rousey too, for example.

[TheH2]

Money line betting on a heavy favorite, you will never come out "on top", because you have to bet more than you can possibly win.. I don't know how you could ever catch up betting $400.00 to win $100.00 - the typical Tyson scenario. You could however "straight bet" VT to win and cover the spread and win 90 cents on the dollar- a much closer "payoff"

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

No, I'm pretty sure you don't understand how a moneyline bet works.

I know exactly how it works. You pick a winner - no point spread - and the payoff is the money line figure related to the bet you place... +300, -300, -420, etc.

At -400 you bet 400 to win 100 and you also get your 400 back. That's how you make money.

[BG Hokie]

Thinking out loud, I wonder if you took the money line on every Tyson fight (for Tyson) if you would have come out on top, even after the Buster Douglass upset?

Every time Virginia Tech played a 1-AA team, even after the James Madison loss?

Interesting to think about... I don't really know the answer.

Money line betting on a heavy favorite, you will never come out "on top", because you have to bet more than you can possibly win.. I don't know how you could ever catch up betting $400.00 to win $100.00 - the typical Tyson scenario. You could however "straight bet" VT to win and cover the spread and win 90 cents on the dollar- a much closer "payoff"

You would come out on top if Tyson won 5 out of 6 times in your scenario, no? 5 times you win $100 and one time you lose $400 = $100 of profit. Of course that's a very simple assumption that in each of the six fights it's -400 each and every time.

[BG Hokie]

payouts.. because that is smart betting. When you win a 10 dollar hand, the payout will be 6 dollars. They are predicting record participation at the tables.

It depends on the odds of winning. If I bet on vt to beat uva in football, chances are I'm going to win most years. So even on a negative money line, I'm going to come out ahead.

How? when you bet 11 dollars to win 10, no matter how many times it hits, you are going to put in more than you win.

Holy crap, you REALLY don't get it. I'm not sure how you're ever going to show up on these boards after accusing other people of not understanding what a money line bet is. This is classic stuff for a guy who has boasted about betting and winning thousands of $$ on sports.

When you bet $11 to win $10, you get the $11 back AND win the $10. Pretty simple stuff.

[BG Hokie]

Gee, you're right. You can "never come out on top" when betting on a heavy favorite. Why would I go and place a $600 bet on Mike Tyson when at -600 when I can only win a measly $100 for that? I'm out $500!!!!!

God you are brilliant. Please let me know the next time you go to Vegas so I can tag along.

I can't believe he really thought that... I didn't think he was that far off, I just thought he was dead set that it's a stupid bet to risk $400 for $100. But he really thought you don't get your "principal" back for lack of a better term. Classic moment in the history of the CFB Apologist character.

[CFB Apologist]

Gee, you're right. You can "never come out on top" when betting on a heavy favorite. Why would I go and place a $600 bet on Mike Tyson when at -600 when I can only win a measly $100 for that? I'm out $500!!!!!

God you are brilliant. Please let me know the next time you go to Vegas so I can tag along.

I can't believe he really thought that... I didn't think he was that far off, I just thought he was dead set that it's a stupid bet to risk $400 for $100. But he really thought you don't get your "principal" back for lack of a better term. Classic moment in the history of the CFB Apologist character.

Yep, I didn't know you got you money back..nope..

[HooFighter]

Gee, you're right. You can "never come out on top" when betting on a heavy favorite. Why would I go and place a $600 bet on Mike Tyson when at -600 when I can only win a measly $100 for that? I'm out $500!!!!!

God you are brilliant. Please let me know the next time you go to Vegas so I can tag along.

I can't believe he really thought that... I didn't think he was that far off, I just thought he was dead set that it's a stupid bet to risk $400 for $100. But he really thought you don't get your "principal" back for lack of a better term. Classic moment in the history of the CFB Apologist character.

He even started this whole thread in an attempt to mock everyone in the Hillary Clinton moneyline discussion. Perfect.

[CFB Apologist]

Money line betting on a heavy favorite, you will never come out "on top", because you have to bet more than you can possibly win.. I don't know how you could ever catch up betting $400.00 to win $100.00 - the typical Tyson scenario. You could however "straight bet" VT to win and cover the spread and win 90 cents on the dollar- a much closer "payoff"

Correct, you do not know the difference between a straight bet and a money line bet...I told you that some number of posts ago

No, I'm pretty sure you don't understand how a moneyline bet works.

I know exactly how it works. You pick a winner - no point spread - and the payoff is the money line figure related to the bet you place... +300, -300, -420, etc.

At -400 you bet 400 to win 100 and you also get your 400 back. That's how you make money.

Your kidding?

[HooFighter]

Your kidding?

I think you need to stop posting right now and go punch yourself in the balls.

[Uprising]

Your kidding?

I think you need to stop posting right now and go punch yourself in the balls.

LOL... This thread is amazing.

[CFB Apologist]

Your kidding?

I think you need to stop posting right now and go punch yourself in the balls.

I think you need to keep telling yourself that when you buy 100 dollars in black jack chips and win 25 dollars, you "won" 125 dollars.