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cwtcr hokie wrote:
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cwtcr hokie wrote:We could check with Bill Clinton on that one
Why? How would Bill Clinton known how you define consent?
his history suggests he is well acquainted with consent or lack thereof
That was never the question, though. The question was how do YOU define consent. Bill's thoughts on the matter are of no consequence.
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nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
the way things are these days, I would tell any male no matter the circumstance or age to get a notarized stamped affadavit of consent for any act involving the touching of any of his male body to another human being (including handshakes of course) as in an office setting that can be sexual harassment.
It's hilarious how the LIVs go ape sheet crazy over consent to touch while simultaneously are just as extreme defending the right to rip a baby's head off it's body. No concerns over consent there.
Not only that, they'll call you a bigot for your views while arguing we should allow basically unencumbered entrance of migrants from countries where they commit real crimes against women and minorities.
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nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
the way things are these days, I would tell any male no matter the circumstance or age to get a notarized stamped affadavit of consent for any act involving the touching of any of his male body to another human being (including handshakes of course) as in an office setting that can be sexual harassment.
It's hilarious how the LIVs go ape sheet crazy over consent to touch while simultaneously are just as extreme defending the right to rip a baby's head off it's body. No concerns over consent there.
Not only that, they'll call you a bigot for your views while arguing we should allow basically unencumbered entrance of migrants from countries where they commit real crimes against women and minorities.
They clearly base opinion based on favorite pets instead of a logical and cohesive view.
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Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:We could check with Bill Clinton on that one
Why? How would Bill Clinton known how you define consent?
his history suggests he is well acquainted with consent or lack thereof
That was never the question, though. The question was how do YOU define consent. Bill's thoughts on the matter are of no consequence.
Hell, according to Bill Clinton, the rapist here didn't even have sexual relations with that woman.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:We could check with Bill Clinton on that one
Why? How would Bill Clinton known how you define consent?
his history suggests he is well acquainted with consent or lack thereof
That was never the question, though. The question was how do YOU define consent. Bill's thoughts on the matter are of no consequence.
Hell, according to Bill Clinton, the rapist here didn't even have sexual relations with that woman.
Haha, yep. Finger and cigar banging weren't sexual, according to him.
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awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:We could check with Bill Clinton on that one
Why? How would Bill Clinton known how you define consent?
his history suggests he is well acquainted with consent or lack thereof
That was never the question, though. The question was how do YOU define consent. Bill's thoughts on the matter are of no consequence.
Hell, according to Bill Clinton, the rapist here didn't even have sexual relations with that woman.
Haha, yep. Finger and cigar banging weren't sexual, according to him.
This swimmer should have just married an old bag who promises people free stuff, then nolan would be supporting him. :mrgreen:
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USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
Hokie5150 wrote:Why? How would Bill Clinton known how you define consent?
his history suggests he is well acquainted with consent or lack thereof
That was never the question, though. The question was how do YOU define consent. Bill's thoughts on the matter are of no consequence.
Hell, according to Bill Clinton, the rapist here didn't even have sexual relations with that woman.
Haha, yep. Finger and cigar banging weren't sexual, according to him.
This swimmer should have just married an old bag who promises people free stuff, then nolan would be supporting him. :mrgreen:
Nolan thinks he needs to administer a BAC test before she can agree to anything.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
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nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
That's the part in question, if she was passed out then. And using Nolan's BAC standard, he wasn't able to give consent either.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
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nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
We're talking about nolan's position, facts have nothing to do with this. :mrgreen:

FTR, I would agree with you whereas nolan would not if the person was a man, or a woman who identifies as a man.
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awesome guy wrote:
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nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
That's the part in question, if she was passed out then. And using Nolan's BAC standard, he wasn't able to give consent either.
It's actually not in question. The witnesses who stopped the attack saw that she was blacked out. That means she lost the capacity to consent before that since blacking out is not the threshold to being incapacitated.

I don't know what this BAC standard you're talking about is.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
Rape prevention tip #11 for guys: if you see a woman is drunk out of her mind and has no clue what she's doing, don't rape them.
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nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
That's the part in question, if she was passed out then. And using Nolan's BAC standard, he wasn't able to give consent either.
It's actually not in question. The witnesses who stopped the attack saw that she was blacked out. That means she lost the capacity to consent before that since blacking out is not the threshold to being incapacitated.

I don't know what this BAC standard you're talking about is.
Incapacitated is the standard. Hilarious that you think it's the same standard as a DUI. But hey, keep on juggling clown.
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awesome guy wrote: Incapacitated is the standard. Hilarious that you think it's the same standard as a DUI. But hey, keep on juggling clown.
Right, incapacitated is the standard, which this girl clearly was even before the witnesses stopped the attack. What you're confusing is that I have previously stated once you get past the legally drunk state, you risk being incapacitated sooner depending on how the person handles alcohol. I've never said that BAC is or should be the strict standard.
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nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote: Incapacitated is the standard. Hilarious that you think it's the same standard as a DUI. But hey, keep on juggling clown.
Right, incapacitated is the standard, which this girl clearly was even before the witnesses stopped the attack. What you're confusing is that I have previously stated once you get past the legally drunk state, you risk being incapacitated sooner depending on how the person handles alcohol. I've never said that BAC is or should be the strict standard.
That's not clear, it's not clear at all when she passed out.

Maybe your red nose is in the way, but you said someone legally drunk isn't able to provide sexual consent. That's hilariously wrong.
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nolanvt wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:I'm curious for those with sons, how will you advise them when they get of age on how to handle girls and how you will educate them on what consent actually is?
What would you tell your sons?

Never have sex with a woman who's been drinking alcohol? Have you ever had sex with a woman (or man, for the PC bros) who was under the influence of alcohol? I assume not.
How about, if a woman is passed out, don't finger her? That's a good start.
Rape prevention tip #11 for guys: if you see a woman is drunk out of her mind and has no clue what she's doing, don't rape them.
If you believed that, you would agree the black guy was raped.
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awesome guy wrote: Incapacitated is the standard. Hilarious that you think it's the same standard as a DUI. But hey, keep on juggling clown.
Right, incapacitated is the standard, which this girl clearly was even before the witnesses stopped the attack. What you're confusing is that I have previously stated once you get past the legally drunk state, you risk being incapacitated sooner depending on how the person handles alcohol. I've never said that BAC is or should be the strict standard.
That's not clear, it's not clear at all when she passed out.

Maybe your red nose is in the way, but you said someone legally drunk isn't able to provide sexual consent. That's hilariously wrong.
You don't have to pass out to be incapacitated.
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nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote: Incapacitated is the standard. Hilarious that you think it's the same standard as a DUI. But hey, keep on juggling clown.
Right, incapacitated is the standard, which this girl clearly was even before the witnesses stopped the attack. What you're confusing is that I have previously stated once you get past the legally drunk state, you risk being incapacitated sooner depending on how the person handles alcohol. I've never said that BAC is or should be the strict standard.
That's not clear, it's not clear at all when she passed out.

Maybe your red nose is in the way, but you said someone legally drunk isn't able to provide sexual consent. That's hilariously wrong.
You don't have to pass out to be incapacitated.
LOL. You need more than a beer per hour to be incapacitated.
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Here are the two guys who caught the assailant.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/mee ... hr43Pe4Ar8


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nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
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awesome guy wrote: False. It's highly relevant. It's pathetic how eager you are to ruin a life forever over finger banging a girl at a frat party. I'm sure you'd sing another tune if it were two queers involved.
I'm not a low info, so I know that a person doesn't necessarily have to pass out in order to lose the capacity to legally consent. This kid ruined his own life when he committed multiple felonies.
it is rather relevant when she passed out but it brings up a good point. When did the alkeehawl hit her, was she taking lots of shots and it hit her hard or was she drunker than hell the whole time. It appears the guy was also very drunk so how can he comprehend wether she is giving consent or not? His capacity is also limited due to the alkeehawl so maybe she gave clear consent and he would not even know it. I agree both participants were dumb and the guy should have left her passed out next to the dumpster and then get blamed if something happened to her after that. I agree the guy screwed up, is he a rapist, no. Did two college kids screw up, yepper
Learn what consent is under the eyes of the law. One does not have to pass out in order to be incapacitated to give consent.
At what BAC level does consent disappear?
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HokieJoe wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote: False. It's highly relevant. It's pathetic how eager you are to ruin a life forever over finger banging a girl at a frat party. I'm sure you'd sing another tune if it were two queers involved.
I'm not a low info, so I know that a person doesn't necessarily have to pass out in order to lose the capacity to legally consent. This kid ruined his own life when he committed multiple felonies.
it is rather relevant when she passed out but it brings up a good point. When did the alkeehawl hit her, was she taking lots of shots and it hit her hard or was she drunker than hell the whole time. It appears the guy was also very drunk so how can he comprehend wether she is giving consent or not? His capacity is also limited due to the alkeehawl so maybe she gave clear consent and he would not even know it. I agree both participants were dumb and the guy should have left her passed out next to the dumpster and then get blamed if something happened to her after that. I agree the guy screwed up, is he a rapist, no. Did two college kids screw up, yepper
Learn what consent is under the eyes of the law. One does not have to pass out in order to be incapacitated to give consent.
At what BAC level does consent disappear?
According to Legal Beagle Nolan, it's the same as a DUI. He's smart and attended a Twitter thread on the subject.
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awesome guy wrote: According to Nolan, it's the same as a DUI. He's smart and attended a Twitter thread on the subject.
Sorry. I haven't said there's a strict BAC standard.
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HokieJoe wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote: False. It's highly relevant. It's pathetic how eager you are to ruin a life forever over finger banging a girl at a frat party. I'm sure you'd sing another tune if it were two queers involved.
I'm not a low info, so I know that a person doesn't necessarily have to pass out in order to lose the capacity to legally consent. This kid ruined his own life when he committed multiple felonies.
it is rather relevant when she passed out but it brings up a good point. When did the alkeehawl hit her, was she taking lots of shots and it hit her hard or was she drunker than hell the whole time. It appears the guy was also very drunk so how can he comprehend wether she is giving consent or not? His capacity is also limited due to the alkeehawl so maybe she gave clear consent and he would not even know it. I agree both participants were dumb and the guy should have left her passed out next to the dumpster and then get blamed if something happened to her after that. I agree the guy screwed up, is he a rapist, no. Did two college kids screw up, yepper
Learn what consent is under the eyes of the law. One does not have to pass out in order to be incapacitated to give consent.
At what BAC level does consent disappear?
It's when you're incapacitated. Different people handle certain BAC levels differently.
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nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote: According to Nolan, it's the same as a DUI. He's smart and attended a Twitter thread on the subject.
Sorry. I haven't said there's a strict BAC standard.
Uh huh. You said intoxicated and then dug in with your blunt skull.
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nolanvt wrote:
awesome guy wrote: According to Nolan, it's the same as a DUI. He's smart and attended a Twitter thread on the subject.
Sorry. I haven't said there's a strict BAC standard.
Uh huh. You said intoxicated and then dug in with your blunt skull.
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