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nolanvt wrote:Even women who have experienced Mr. Trump’s aggressions firsthand found the recording to be startling, clarifying and, perhaps, vindicating.

Temple Taggart was a 21-year-old beauty contestant when, she said, Mr. Trump kissed her on the lips, without invitation, at a pageant event. It was an unwanted advance she has turned over in her head for years.

Watching him relive his sexual aggressions on the video, she said in an interview on Saturday, “made me feel a lot better.”

“It was like: ‘Thank you. Now no one can say I made this up,’” she added.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us ... KSksP1gPiE


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1. Congratulations, nolan. You've invented a definition of assault so broad that your Aunt Selma is now a rapist for planting that big kiss on you at age 6. And all of this is coming from the party/political family which doesn't think a BJ is sex.

2. This is an old story, came out a while ago. The media is dragging it out and polishing it up for the low information types to gobble up.
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ElbertoHokie wrote:My problem with it was that he's married and he talked about hitting on women while he was married and trying to sleep with women...while he was married. That's my problem. End of story.
Yeah, that's the legitimate criticism which I think we all acknowledge. The only caveat is that this came out in the same year he was married - it wasn't clear to me if this was something that just happened, or possibly happened a bit earlier (when he was single). Either way, not really a discussion a married guy should be engaging in.

The media and the left are jumping on the assault bandwagon because it puts Trump on his heels to explain how he didn't assault anyone.
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his wife.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Even women who have experienced Mr. Trump’s aggressions firsthand found the recording to be startling, clarifying and, perhaps, vindicating.

Temple Taggart was a 21-year-old beauty contestant when, she said, Mr. Trump kissed her on the lips, without invitation, at a pageant event. It was an unwanted advance she has turned over in her head for years.

Watching him relive his sexual aggressions on the video, she said in an interview on Saturday, “made me feel a lot better.”

“It was like: ‘Thank you. Now no one can say I made this up,’” she added.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us ... KSksP1gPiE


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1. Congratulations, nolan. You've invented a definition of assault so broad that your Aunt Selma is now a rapist for planting that big kiss on you at age 6. And all of this is coming from the party/political family which doesn't think a BJ is sex.

2. This is an old story, came out a while ago. The media is dragging it out and polishing it up for the low information types to gobble up.
I didn't invent any definitions or laws. I don't have all jurisdictions' laws memorized, but there are a number of states where unwanted kissing is a form of sexual assault and battery. It's a very "minor" form of assault and battery that generally doesn't get prosecuted, but it's still the law in those jurisdictions nonetheless.

So, given Trump's history and his tendency to lie, I'm skeptical of his claim that he grabbed and groped women while they all consented to it. It's unlikely, but maybe they did (who knows?). The point I was making in this thread was to differentiate normal locker room/guy talk from what Trump described in the context of his history/behavior.
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nolanvt wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Even women who have experienced Mr. Trump’s aggressions firsthand found the recording to be startling, clarifying and, perhaps, vindicating.

Temple Taggart was a 21-year-old beauty contestant when, she said, Mr. Trump kissed her on the lips, without invitation, at a pageant event. It was an unwanted advance she has turned over in her head for years.

Watching him relive his sexual aggressions on the video, she said in an interview on Saturday, “made me feel a lot better.”

“It was like: ‘Thank you. Now no one can say I made this up,’” she added.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us ... KSksP1gPiE


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1. Congratulations, nolan. You've invented a definition of assault so broad that your Aunt Selma is now a rapist for planting that big kiss on you at age 6. And all of this is coming from the party/political family which doesn't think a BJ is sex.

2. This is an old story, came out a while ago. The media is dragging it out and polishing it up for the low information types to gobble up.
....durr......
Sexual Assault, according to nolan and other SJWs:

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USN_Hokie wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:My problem with it was that he's married and he talked about hitting on women while he was married and trying to sleep with women...while he was married. That's my problem. End of story.
Yeah, that's the legitimate criticism which I think we all acknowledge. The only caveat is that this came out in the same year he was married - it wasn't clear to me if this was something that just happened, or possibly happened a bit earlier (when he was single). Either way, not really a discussion a married guy should be engaging in.

The media and the left are jumping on the assault bandwagon because it puts Trump on his heels to explain how he didn't assault anyone.
Agree with Elberto who agreed with me.

Not shocked at all that the same phoney liars are out parading so called sexual assault victims, who received a kiss, and still call victims of sexual assault and rape(who received an unwanted penis I'm their vaginas) whores, sluts, and trailer trash. I bet the average voter can see the juxtaposition and is sickened by the laughable double standard at play. Once again, rape victims are human shields for the left and democratic party.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: People who attract women because of who they are, say women throw themselves at them. People who say they grab pussy are.ones who do it because they can get away with it. And quit your lefty B.S. shtick against anyone who disagrees with your constant inability to comprehend plain english.
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: People who attract women because of who they are, say women throw themselves at them. People who say they grab pussy are.ones who do it because they can get away with it. And quit your lefty B.S. shtick against anyone who disagrees with your constant inability to comprehend plain english.
[p

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.

PS - you started the personal attacks with your "constant inability to comprehend plain english[sic]" comment. Never mind the fact that you just admitted above this was your personal interpretation. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you were just inebriated after watching the game.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Even women who have experienced Mr. Trump’s aggressions firsthand found the recording to be startling, clarifying and, perhaps, vindicating.

Temple Taggart was a 21-year-old beauty contestant when, she said, Mr. Trump kissed her on the lips, without invitation, at a pageant event. It was an unwanted advance she has turned over in her head for years.

Watching him relive his sexual aggressions on the video, she said in an interview on Saturday, “made me feel a lot better.”

“It was like: ‘Thank you. Now no one can say I made this up,’” she added.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/10/09/us ... KSksP1gPiE


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1. Congratulations, nolan. You've invented a definition of assault so broad that your Aunt Selma is now a rapist for planting that big kiss on you at age 6. And all of this is coming from the party/political family which doesn't think a BJ is sex.

2. This is an old story, came out a while ago. The media is dragging it out and polishing it up for the low information types to gobble up.
....durr......
Sexual Assault, according to nolan and other SJWs:

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Wait a minute. How do you know grandma didn't get consent?
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: People who attract women because of who they are, say women throw themselves at them. People who say they grab pussy are.ones who do it because they can get away with it. And quit your lefty B.S. shtick against anyone who disagrees with your constant inability to comprehend plain english.
[p

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
Yep... Just the lefties:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday ... /91784714/
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: People who attract women because of who they are, say women throw themselves at them. People who say they grab pussy are.ones who do it because they can get away with it. And quit your lefty B.S. shtick against anyone who disagrees with your constant inability to comprehend plain english.
[p

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
What outlandish accusations? That he cheats on his wives (100% true) and that he's sexually aggressive towards women? His comments back up both those statements. If you disagree, it's because you don't "think" they do. The meaning of his comments are a matter of opinion, your version isn't any more or less true than mine.

And I haven't seen it on any lefty twitter feeds, you boob. Bit I realize that's just yet another of your Pavlovian reactions to someone who disagrees with you.
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Uprising wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
Yep... Just the lefties:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday ... /91784714/
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Yes, the same Republicans who didn't want him to be nominated in the first place. Trump is an anti-establishment candidate, not sure why this should surprise anyone.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
What outlandish accusations? That he cheats on his wives (100% true) and that he's sexually aggressive towards women? His comments back up both those statements. If you disagree, it's because you don't "think" they do. The meaning of his comments are a matter of opinion, your version isn't any more or less true than mine.

And I haven't seen it on any lefty twitter feeds, you boob. Bit I realize that's just yet another of your Pavlovian reactions to someone who disagrees with you.
Just to clarify - you're now backtracking from your sexual assault claims? If you want to correct yourself, that's great - but don't conflate comments related to your earlier lefty twitter feed-induced rant. Also - "sexually aggressive" is a stupid, meaningless term.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
What outlandish accusations? That he cheats on his wives (100% true) and that he's sexually aggressive towards women? His comments back up both those statements. If you disagree, it's because you don't "think" they do. The meaning of his comments are a matter of opinion, your version isn't any more or less true than mine.

And I haven't seen it on any lefty twitter feeds, you boob. Bit I realize that's just yet another of your Pavlovian reactions to someone who disagrees with you.
Just to clarify - you're now backtracking from your sexual assault claims? If you want to correct yourself, that's great - but don't conflate comments related to your earlier lefty twitter feed-induced rant. Also - "sexually aggressive" is a stupid, meaningless term.
I never said sexual assault.
And your opinion on sexually aggressive as a term is simply your opinion. I think sexual assault denotes something worse than randomly groping women, so I used a different term. But, both are horrible.
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I'm amazed to see so many of the same people (or type of people) that told us over and over about how a man's personal life had no bearing on his ability to serve as POTUS, are now suddenly shocked and horrified by what Trump said 11 years ago. This is what was beat over our heads again & again in the 1990's. Now these delicate snowflakes are so offended by some crude comments made over 11 years ago? And not just offended, these comments are so terrible that they will hand the WH over to the most corrupt politician to run for the Presidency in our lifetimes?

Who are these people that are so easily manipulated by an audio tape that was not just discovered - this was a tape that someone has been holding onto for a while and wanted to release it at the opportune time. Who allows themselves to be manipulated like this?????

Donald Trump is not a saint, news at 11!

This quote from the article below is spot on:
Just as evidence of the Clinton corruption is once again made manifest in the release of more of her emails and a closer look at the late revised Clinton foundation filings, they flee Trump because of a suspiciously timed tape of an eleven-year-old conversation with GHW Bush’s nephew, Billy Bush. If, like a toddler, you are easily distracted by shining objects. you’ll fall for it. If you’re a grownup who realizes the fate of the world and this country depend on your vote you won’t.
And I would like to thank Kong for finally saying what most of the grown ups here have been thinking for a long time.

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October 9, 2016
The Republican White Togas at Work for the Queen of Sleaze
By Clarice Feldman

Years ago I wrote of my contempt for the white togaed squishes of the right who flee the grounds of the forum when jackals attack their allies in order to keep their garb free of stain. This week in the lead up to the second presidential debate tonight, they’re at it again.

Just as evidence of the Clinton corruption is once again made manifest in the release of more of her emails and a closer look at the late revised Clinton foundation filings, they flee Trump because of a suspiciously timed tape of an eleven-year-old conversation with GHW Bush’s nephew, Billy Bush. If, like a toddler, you are easily distracted by shining objects. you’ll fall for it. If you’re a grownup who realizes the fate of the world and this country depend on your vote you won’t.

1. How Hillary Broke the Law and Destabilized North Africa, creating a Refugee Crisis and a catastrophe in Libya and Syria

General Mike Flynn laid out the catastrophic results of then-Secretary of State Clinton’s actions in Libya, based on false claims that Qaddafi was engaged in widespread attacks on civilians.

While no saint, Qaddafi was key to our counterterrorism efforts in the area. Ignoring the advice of the secretary of defense and lawyers in her own department, Secretary Clinton allowed 18 shipments of arms from Qatar to Libyan jihadis who were on the State Department’s own list of foreign terrorists, in apparent violation of federal law (28 U.S. Code 2339A and 2339B). The arms shipments were funneled through a Qatar cleric “who brokered their release from prison” after Clinton persuaded the President to grant the terrorists full diplomatic recognition,

If that wasn’t bad enough, Flynn underscored the connection to the Clinton Foundation in her otherwise puzzling conduct:
Qatar has donated anywhere from $1 to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation, and emails reveal members of the Qatari royal family were privileged with back channel meetings with Secretary Clinton at the State Department. While whipping up support for the Libya military campaign, Clinton told Arab leaders, “it’s important to me personally,” the Washington Post reported.

Hillary Clinton’s prosecution of foreign policy in Libya crossed several lines: she showed extremely bad judgment by ignoring military and intelligence officials, she let personal interests conflict with U.S. foreign policy and, most importantly, she may have broken the law -- again.
2. Hillary’s speeches to Big Donors Reveal clearly her Deceptive nature and her view of Trump and Sanders supporters

Wikileaks revealed a batch of new hacked emails involving Hillary this week. As people sort through them, some gems from the well-paid speeches she gave to big corporate donors showed up.
“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 28]”
According to Politico:
Hacked audio of a conversation between Hillary Clinton and donors during a February fundraising event shows the Democrat nominee describing Bernie Sanders supporters as "children of the Great Recession" who are "living in their parents’ basement."

Speaking at a Virginia fundraiser hosted by former U.S. ambassador Beatrice Welters, Clinton says in a clip released by the Free Beacon that many of her former primary opponent's supporters sought things like “free college, free health care,” saying that she preferred to occupy the space "from the center-left to the center-right" on the political spectrum.

During the conversation, also reported in the Intercept, Clinton confesses to feeling "bewildered" by those to her far-left and far-right in the election.

"There is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates," she said. "And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel."
4. Mud Slung and Squishes Run

Just as this hit the wires, NBC released a video of Billy Bush, a cousin of GW Bush and a nephew of GHW Bush, a TV personage, in a taped locker-room type conversation he had eleven years ago with Trump. For some this echoes the usual leftwing last minute charges against George Bush and John McCain falsely accusing them of sexual misconduct.

Trump quickly issued an apology: "I've never said that I'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I'm not. I've said and done things I regret and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize," Trump said.

Measured against the criminal corruption of Hillary and Bill this would seem to an ordinary observer to be insignificant. For Hillary it was “horrific”. Tom Maguire responds:
The October Surprises keep piling up. Can'ya believe Trump made lewd comments about women? But Politico delivers the punchline:

“The audio represents an extraordinary level of vulgarity --Democrats quickly condemned Trump for casually joking about sexual assault -- even for a candidate who seized the Republican nomination through his proud embrace of political incorrectness.

‘This is horrific,’ Hillary Clinton said on Twitter. “We cannot allow this man to become president.’ “

A shortage of Twitter-space undoubtedly prevented her from tweeting her real thought, which must have been "We cannot allow a man like this to become president again".

As to whose mind might be changed by this, who can tell. The undecideds out there probably have guessed by now that this is Trump being Trump.
I used to be a Democrat so nothing shocks me, but Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and others quickly virtue-signaled, in effect playing for Hillary.

Mitt’s response was the most perfervid. He claimed the taped words “demean our wives and daughters and corrupt America’s face to the world”. I cannot improve upon the responses of my online friends “daddy” and James D” to this nonsense.

James d:
The premier arts center in the nation's capital is named for a man who would have sex with anything that had breasts and a pulse, including a mobster's daughter and an East German spy, whose brother probably had Marilyn Monroe murdered, and whose other brother got an employee drunk, drove her into a river and left her to drown.

The former "conscience of the Senate" was a former klansman, and pretty much every public building in his state is named for him.

The husband of the current Democrat candidate for President (and a former President himself) settled a lawsuit for sexual harassment against a former employee, sodomized an intern in the Oval Office, and had about a million other sordid affairs, while his wife the current candidate used her taxpayer-paid staff to shred the reputations of her husband's victims.

All of those things happened while the criminals in question actually held high office.

How about you criticize THAT before going on about something Trump said during a private conversation a decade ago while he was a private citizen, you sanctimonious loser jackass.
Daddy could not contain himself on Romney’s claim that this corrupted “America’s face to the world”.
Correct. It must make Putin and his mistress awful upset, and France's Hollande and his current mistress awful upset, and Italy's Berlusconi and all his former babes terribly upset, and Prince Charlie’s (“I want to be your tampon Camilla") awful upset, and Mexico's president and his second Soap Opera Babe awful upset, and Canada's Trudeau (first or second doesn't matter even if she's banging Mick Jagger) and their babes on the side awful upset, and the head of the UN Climate Council, Pachori, who had to resign for banging underage whatevers awful upset, and whoever Hu in China was banging before he started banging his current TV show squeeze awful upset, and all the Middle Eastern potentates with multiple wives and dozens of concubines awful upset, and ISIS and their Yazidi Christian women sex slaves awful upset, and Kim Jung crazy Norkorea who puts his used chicks naked into cages to be devoured by ravenous dogs, it must make him awful upset too.

Yep. Trump saying "Grab her by the pussy" 11 years ago must make them all awful upset. Hopefully they'll give us some ice to put on it.
In any event, GW Bush admitted he and his dad used the same sort of talk in private, and Vernon Jordan said when they were golfing he and Bill Clinton did, too.

5. Meantime, following Obama’s disengagement of America in the world and his destruction of U.S. military power, the world is getting more and more dangerous

Obama purges the officer corps, cuts our nuclear arsenal, and directs the military to focus on diversity appointments and transgender training. He strips veterans benefits and overlooks the shockingly bad care provided in VA hospitals while providing funds for transgender surgery for the troops, and generous benefits to illegal aliens and unvetted Syrian immigrants. In the meantime, Russia flexes its muscles in Syria, the Far East and Eastern Europe.

John Schindler reports:
Today’s biggest news, however, comes from Estonian reports that the Russian military is sending Iskander-M missiles to Kaliningrad on a civilian freighter. It’s expected to dock in Kaliningrad today with its alarming cargo.

The Iskander-M system, called SS-26 by NATO… has a range of 300 miles and can carry either a conventional or a nuclear warhead. An Iskander-M based in Kaliningrad can strike targets deep in Poland and across the whole Baltic region. Make no mistake, this is primarily an offensive weapons system.

There’s a reason that the Kremlin promised to not ship this missile system to Kaliningrad back in 2009, in exchange for President Obama’s scuppering of missile defense in Poland and the Czech Republic. Activating an Iskander-M unit in Kaliningrad, west of the Baltic republics, is rightly seen as destabilizing by NATO’s whole eastern flank which, despite security promises by the White House, remains vulnerable to Russian attack. For Warsaw and several other NATO capitals, this move resembles a Baltic version of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

This constitutes a direct challenge to Washington by Moscow -- and by Vladimir Putin to Barack Obama, personally. The KGB officer in the Kremlin is seeking to get in one last, grand strategic humiliation for our president before he leaves office. And why not? Such reckless antics have worked well for the Russians so far, given Obama’s preference to avert eyes and hope for the best whenever Moscow misbehaves.
Unlike many, I believe that Trump will do fine in tonight’s debate, and I agree with Milton Rosenberg, who argues that ‘evaluation apprehension” keeps polls from accurately reflecting the margin of Trump’s support over Hillary's.

I doubt that Americans are so addlepated as to pick an incompetent, thoroughly corrupt globalist over an often-vulgar man who loves his country and has accomplished a great deal. I think this leak came so early in the month because Clinton and her allies fear this is true.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
What outlandish accusations? That he cheats on his wives (100% true) and that he's sexually aggressive towards women? His comments back up both those statements. If you disagree, it's because you don't "think" they do. The meaning of his comments are a matter of opinion, your version isn't any more or less true than mine.

And I haven't seen it on any lefty twitter feeds, you boob. Bit I realize that's just yet another of your Pavlovian reactions to someone who disagrees with you.
Just to clarify - you're now backtracking from your sexual assault claims? If you want to correct yourself, that's great - but don't conflate comments related to your earlier lefty twitter feed-induced rant. Also - "sexually aggressive" is a stupid, meaningless term.
Please tell us more about what is moral and what is not.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
What outlandish accusations? That he cheats on his wives (100% true) and that he's sexually aggressive towards women? His comments back up both those statements. If you disagree, it's because you don't "think" they do. The meaning of his comments are a matter of opinion, your version isn't any more or less true than mine.

And I haven't seen it on any lefty twitter feeds, you boob. Bit I realize that's just yet another of your Pavlovian reactions to someone who disagrees with you.
Just to clarify - you're now backtracking from your sexual assault claims? If you want to correct yourself, that's great - but don't conflate comments related to your earlier lefty twitter feed-induced rant. Also - "sexually aggressive" is a stupid, meaningless term.

I never said sexual assault.

And your opinion on sexually aggressive as a term is simply your opinion. I think sexual assault denotes something worse than randomly groping women, so I used a different term. But, both are horrible.
Your pettiness began as a response below to my comment that nolan had no basis to call it "assault," which you called "crap." So yes, Hillary Clinton HokieFanDC, you didn't say the words assault :roll: , but it was clear to everyone able to "comprehend plain English" what you were talking about. Your response makes no sense in any other context, in fact.
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Yup. It was him bragging about being able to get away with sexual assault was where I drew the line with this video. Guys talk about hot chicks all the time, but we don't (or shouldn't) brag about using our statuses to get away with assault. Kong strikes me as a good man, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He may have been having a bad day over something else.
He was crass, but you're completely off the libtard deep end calling it assault.
That's crap. He was bragging about having the freedom to take sexual liberties with women who didn't want him to, because of who he is. Are there lots of celebrities who do that? Yep. And they're disgusting asshats.
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Uprising wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Just to clarify - you're now backtracking from your sexual assault claims? If you want to correct yourself, that's great - but don't conflate comments related to your earlier lefty twitter feed-induced rant. Also - "sexually aggressive" is a stupid, meaningless term.
Please tell us more about what is moral and what is not.
I've already said his comments were inappropriate. Nobody is making the argument that Trump or any other person on earth is the standard for what is moral. Try to keep up.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
We already know what you "think" - newsflash, that's not an argument. You haven't shown us anything, and you should understand that the onus is on you given your outlandish accusations. Just because you've seen it repeating a thousand times on lefty twitter feeds, doesn't make it true.
What outlandish accusations? That he cheats on his wives (100% true) and that he's sexually aggressive towards women? His comments back up both those statements. If you disagree, it's because you don't "think" they do. The meaning of his comments are a matter of opinion, your version isn't any more or less true than mine.

And I haven't seen it on any lefty twitter feeds, you boob. Bit I realize that's just yet another of your Pavlovian reactions to someone who disagrees with you.
Just to clarify - you're now backtracking from your sexual assault claims? If you want to correct yourself, that's great - but don't conflate comments related to your earlier lefty twitter feed-induced rant. Also - "sexually aggressive" is a stupid, meaningless term.

I never said sexual assault.

And your opinion on sexually aggressive as a term is simply your opinion. I think sexual assault denotes something worse than randomly groping women, so I used a different term. But, both are horrible.
Your pettiness began as a response below to my comment that nolan had no basis to call it "assault," which you called "crap." So yes, Hillary Clinton HokieFanDC, you didn't say the words assault :roll: , but it was clear to everyone able to "comprehend plain English" what you were talking about. Your response makes no sense in any other context, in fact.
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
Yup. It was him bragging about being able to get away with sexual assault was where I drew the line with this video. Guys talk about hot chicks all the time, but we don't (or shouldn't) brag about using our statuses to get away with assault. Kong strikes me as a good man, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. He may have been having a bad day over something else.
He was crass, but you're completely off the libtard deep end calling it assault.
That's crap. He was bragging about having the freedom to take sexual liberties with women who didn't want him to, because of who he is. Are there lots of celebrities who do that? Yep. And they're disgusting asshats.
That's fair, but that's why I used the words sexual liberties and then sexual aggressiveness, so people would not think I thought it was clear he had sexually assaulted women. Bottom line, he is scum. He may not rise to the level of Bill Clinton, but he's way toward Bill's end of the spectrum.
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UpstateSCHokie wrote:I'm amazed to see so many of the same people (or type of people) that told us over and over about how a man's personal life had no bearing on his ability to serve as POTUS, are now suddenly shocked and horrified by what Trump said 11 years ago. This is what was beat over our heads again & again in the 1990's. Now these delicate snowflakes are so offended by some crude comments made over 11 years ago? And not just offended, these comments are so terrible that they will hand the WH over to the most corrupt politician to run for the Presidency in our lifetimes?

Who are these people that are so easily manipulated by an audio tape that was not just discovered - this was a tape that someone has been holding onto for a while and wanted to release it at the opportune time. Who allows themselves to be manipulated like this?????

Donald Trump is not a saint, news at 11!

This quote from the article below is spot on:
Just as evidence of the Clinton corruption is once again made manifest in the release of more of her emails and a closer look at the late revised Clinton foundation filings, they flee Trump because of a suspiciously timed tape of an eleven-year-old conversation with GHW Bush’s nephew, Billy Bush. If, like a toddler, you are easily distracted by shining objects. you’ll fall for it. If you’re a grownup who realizes the fate of the world and this country depend on your vote you won’t.
And I would like to thank Kong for finally saying what most of the grown ups here have been thinking for a long time.

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October 9, 2016
The Republican White Togas at Work for the Queen of Sleaze
By Clarice Feldman

Years ago I wrote of my contempt for the white togaed squishes of the right who flee the grounds of the forum when jackals attack their allies in order to keep their garb free of stain. This week in the lead up to the second presidential debate tonight, they’re at it again.

Just as evidence of the Clinton corruption is once again made manifest in the release of more of her emails and a closer look at the late revised Clinton foundation filings, they flee Trump because of a suspiciously timed tape of an eleven-year-old conversation with GHW Bush’s nephew, Billy Bush. If, like a toddler, you are easily distracted by shining objects. you’ll fall for it. If you’re a grownup who realizes the fate of the world and this country depend on your vote you won’t.

1. How Hillary Broke the Law and Destabilized North Africa, creating a Refugee Crisis and a catastrophe in Libya and Syria

General Mike Flynn laid out the catastrophic results of then-Secretary of State Clinton’s actions in Libya, based on false claims that Qaddafi was engaged in widespread attacks on civilians.

While no saint, Qaddafi was key to our counterterrorism efforts in the area. Ignoring the advice of the secretary of defense and lawyers in her own department, Secretary Clinton allowed 18 shipments of arms from Qatar to Libyan jihadis who were on the State Department’s own list of foreign terrorists, in apparent violation of federal law (28 U.S. Code 2339A and 2339B). The arms shipments were funneled through a Qatar cleric “who brokered their release from prison” after Clinton persuaded the President to grant the terrorists full diplomatic recognition,

If that wasn’t bad enough, Flynn underscored the connection to the Clinton Foundation in her otherwise puzzling conduct:
Qatar has donated anywhere from $1 to $5 million to the Clinton Foundation, and emails reveal members of the Qatari royal family were privileged with back channel meetings with Secretary Clinton at the State Department. While whipping up support for the Libya military campaign, Clinton told Arab leaders, “it’s important to me personally,” the Washington Post reported.

Hillary Clinton’s prosecution of foreign policy in Libya crossed several lines: she showed extremely bad judgment by ignoring military and intelligence officials, she let personal interests conflict with U.S. foreign policy and, most importantly, she may have broken the law -- again.
2. Hillary’s speeches to Big Donors Reveal clearly her Deceptive nature and her view of Trump and Sanders supporters

Wikileaks revealed a batch of new hacked emails involving Hillary this week. As people sort through them, some gems from the well-paid speeches she gave to big corporate donors showed up.
“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.” [05162013 Remarks to Banco Itau.doc, p. 28]”
According to Politico:
Hacked audio of a conversation between Hillary Clinton and donors during a February fundraising event shows the Democrat nominee describing Bernie Sanders supporters as "children of the Great Recession" who are "living in their parents’ basement."

Speaking at a Virginia fundraiser hosted by former U.S. ambassador Beatrice Welters, Clinton says in a clip released by the Free Beacon that many of her former primary opponent's supporters sought things like “free college, free health care,” saying that she preferred to occupy the space "from the center-left to the center-right" on the political spectrum.

During the conversation, also reported in the Intercept, Clinton confesses to feeling "bewildered" by those to her far-left and far-right in the election.

"There is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates," she said. "And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel."
4. Mud Slung and Squishes Run

Just as this hit the wires, NBC released a video of Billy Bush, a cousin of GW Bush and a nephew of GHW Bush, a TV personage, in a taped locker-room type conversation he had eleven years ago with Trump. For some this echoes the usual leftwing last minute charges against George Bush and John McCain falsely accusing them of sexual misconduct.

Trump quickly issued an apology: "I've never said that I'm a perfect person, nor pretended to be someone that I'm not. I've said and done things I regret and the words released today on this more than a decade old video are one of them. Anyone who knows me knows these words don't reflect who I am. I said it, I was wrong and I apologize," Trump said.

Measured against the criminal corruption of Hillary and Bill this would seem to an ordinary observer to be insignificant. For Hillary it was “horrific”. Tom Maguire responds:
The October Surprises keep piling up. Can'ya believe Trump made lewd comments about women? But Politico delivers the punchline:

“The audio represents an extraordinary level of vulgarity --Democrats quickly condemned Trump for casually joking about sexual assault -- even for a candidate who seized the Republican nomination through his proud embrace of political incorrectness.

‘This is horrific,’ Hillary Clinton said on Twitter. “We cannot allow this man to become president.’ “

A shortage of Twitter-space undoubtedly prevented her from tweeting her real thought, which must have been "We cannot allow a man like this to become president again".

As to whose mind might be changed by this, who can tell. The undecideds out there probably have guessed by now that this is Trump being Trump.
I used to be a Democrat so nothing shocks me, but Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and others quickly virtue-signaled, in effect playing for Hillary.

Mitt’s response was the most perfervid. He claimed the taped words “demean our wives and daughters and corrupt America’s face to the world”. I cannot improve upon the responses of my online friends “daddy” and James D” to this nonsense.

James d:
The premier arts center in the nation's capital is named for a man who would have sex with anything that had breasts and a pulse, including a mobster's daughter and an East German spy, whose brother probably had Marilyn Monroe murdered, and whose other brother got an employee drunk, drove her into a river and left her to drown.

The former "conscience of the Senate" was a former klansman, and pretty much every public building in his state is named for him.

The husband of the current Democrat candidate for President (and a former President himself) settled a lawsuit for sexual harassment against a former employee, sodomized an intern in the Oval Office, and had about a million other sordid affairs, while his wife the current candidate used her taxpayer-paid staff to shred the reputations of her husband's victims.

All of those things happened while the criminals in question actually held high office.

How about you criticize THAT before going on about something Trump said during a private conversation a decade ago while he was a private citizen, you sanctimonious loser jackass.
Daddy could not contain himself on Romney’s claim that this corrupted “America’s face to the world”.
Correct. It must make Putin and his mistress awful upset, and France's Hollande and his current mistress awful upset, and Italy's Berlusconi and all his former babes terribly upset, and Prince Charlie’s (“I want to be your tampon Camilla") awful upset, and Mexico's president and his second Soap Opera Babe awful upset, and Canada's Trudeau (first or second doesn't matter even if she's banging Mick Jagger) and their babes on the side awful upset, and the head of the UN Climate Council, Pachori, who had to resign for banging underage whatevers awful upset, and whoever Hu in China was banging before he started banging his current TV show squeeze awful upset, and all the Middle Eastern potentates with multiple wives and dozens of concubines awful upset, and ISIS and their Yazidi Christian women sex slaves awful upset, and Kim Jung crazy Norkorea who puts his used chicks naked into cages to be devoured by ravenous dogs, it must make him awful upset too.

Yep. Trump saying "Grab her by the pussy" 11 years ago must make them all awful upset. Hopefully they'll give us some ice to put on it.
In any event, GW Bush admitted he and his dad used the same sort of talk in private, and Vernon Jordan said when they were golfing he and Bill Clinton did, too.

5. Meantime, following Obama’s disengagement of America in the world and his destruction of U.S. military power, the world is getting more and more dangerous

Obama purges the officer corps, cuts our nuclear arsenal, and directs the military to focus on diversity appointments and transgender training. He strips veterans benefits and overlooks the shockingly bad care provided in VA hospitals while providing funds for transgender surgery for the troops, and generous benefits to illegal aliens and unvetted Syrian immigrants. In the meantime, Russia flexes its muscles in Syria, the Far East and Eastern Europe.

John Schindler reports:
Today’s biggest news, however, comes from Estonian reports that the Russian military is sending Iskander-M missiles to Kaliningrad on a civilian freighter. It’s expected to dock in Kaliningrad today with its alarming cargo.

The Iskander-M system, called SS-26 by NATO… has a range of 300 miles and can carry either a conventional or a nuclear warhead. An Iskander-M based in Kaliningrad can strike targets deep in Poland and across the whole Baltic region. Make no mistake, this is primarily an offensive weapons system.

There’s a reason that the Kremlin promised to not ship this missile system to Kaliningrad back in 2009, in exchange for President Obama’s scuppering of missile defense in Poland and the Czech Republic. Activating an Iskander-M unit in Kaliningrad, west of the Baltic republics, is rightly seen as destabilizing by NATO’s whole eastern flank which, despite security promises by the White House, remains vulnerable to Russian attack. For Warsaw and several other NATO capitals, this move resembles a Baltic version of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

This constitutes a direct challenge to Washington by Moscow -- and by Vladimir Putin to Barack Obama, personally. The KGB officer in the Kremlin is seeking to get in one last, grand strategic humiliation for our president before he leaves office. And why not? Such reckless antics have worked well for the Russians so far, given Obama’s preference to avert eyes and hope for the best whenever Moscow misbehaves.
Unlike many, I believe that Trump will do fine in tonight’s debate, and I agree with Milton Rosenberg, who argues that ‘evaluation apprehension” keeps polls from accurately reflecting the margin of Trump’s support over Hillary's.

I doubt that Americans are so addlepated as to pick an incompetent, thoroughly corrupt globalist over an often-vulgar man who loves his country and has accomplished a great deal. I think this leak came so early in the month because Clinton and her allies fear this is true.

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Your support of Trump is the same kind of ostrich imitation that Hillary supporters do.
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That's fair, but that's why I used the words sexual liberties and then sexual aggressiveness, so people would not think I thought it was clear he had sexually assaulted women. Bottom line, he is scum. He may not rise to the level of Bill Clinton, but he's way toward Bill's end of the spectrum.
The reality of the situation is that there are two types of candidates out there, historically:

1. Milquetoast: McCain, Romney, Dole, Gore, Kerry, Mondale, Dukakis, Ford (notice the trend here - all losers)
2. The rest: Obama, GW (yes), Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson, etc.

All the #2's have baggage, but that's the type of personality to takes to win the election.
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I'm putting on my galoshes and wadding into this excrement thread just to drop this.

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That's fair, but that's why I used the words sexual liberties and then sexual aggressiveness, so people would not think I thought it was clear he had sexually assaulted women. Bottom line, he is scum. He may not rise to the level of Bill Clinton, but he's way toward Bill's end of the spectrum.
The reality of the situation is that there are two types of candidates out there, historically:

1. Milquetoast: McCain, Romney, Dole, Gore, Kerry, Mondale, Dukakis, Ford (notice the trend here - all losers)
2. The rest: Obama, GW (yes), Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson, etc.

All the #2's have baggage, but that's the type of personality to takes to win the election.
True, but Nixon, Reagan, and the Bushes had far less baggage than either Clinton or Trump.
And Obama had less concrete baggage.
It's a shame that our political environment has gotten to the point that it has, yet few people seem to really care.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: People who attract women because of who they are, say women throw themselves at them. People who say they grab pussy are.ones who do it because they can get away with it. And quit your lefty B.S. shtick against anyone who disagrees with your constant inability to comprehend plain english.
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
It's best just to laugh at the silly necks and use them to support worthwhile non-profits.


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With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: People who attract women because of who they are, say women throw themselves at them. People who say they grab pussy are.ones who do it because they can get away with it. And quit your lefty B.S. shtick against anyone who disagrees with your constant inability to comprehend plain english.
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - that you're being manipulated by the crap you read. The alternative is that you're just a liar.

Your insult is cute - particularly since you're still unable to explain WTF you were trying to talk about. Have a good night - don't forget to drink lots of water.
What part don't you understand? Grabbing pussy isn't a consensual act.
You're starting to sound like awesomeguy...congratulations.
When you sober up, please quote where he admits to this sexual assault you're talking about. TIA.
Seriously? I've given you the exact language Trump used that I think indicates he has grabbed women's pussies without their consent. I never said he admitted to it.
It's almost impossible to have an adult conversation with you anymore. You listened to what Trump said and think it's just guy talk. I think it's the talk of someone who is extremely sexually aggressive to women, because he can get away with it. You disagree with me. So what. Why do you and you're little friend have to personally attack everyone who disagrees with you. If my disagreement is due to being drunk ( I wasn't), then millions of people, from all walks of life, are drunk.

And everyone knows he's cheated many times, he doesn't even have the decency to be embarrassed about it.

He's a schmuck, always has been, always will be. If you're cool voting for someone like that, just embrace it.
It's best just to laugh at the silly necks and use them to support worthwhile non-profits.


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Yep. Our neck is giving the NRA a grand. Thanks IP.
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