Michael Flynn

[USN_Hokie]

Must have been nothing after all. You're totally right, USN.

All my comments still stand.

Congratulations, you got your scalp. He chose to resign.

When it hits the Fox News headline you know republican insiders are telling them that the story has legs.

You have an unhealthy fascination with Fox News.

Only as equally unhealthy as your constant denigration of MSM. I also chuckled at your calling out of how the media got the information. All I heard from you guys as Russia/Wikileaks was leaking Hilary's emails that while how they were obtained may be illegal, this is information that we SHOULD all know. Just like the Flynn phone calls being wire tapped and knowing that he talks with the Russian ambassador in Washington frequently as well as paid for trips to Russia.

Why don't you go ahead and quote what I said instead of putting words in my mouth. Then we can have a grown up conversation.

[USN_Hokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

[UpstateSCHokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

The abrupt resignation Monday evening of White House national security adviser Michael Flynn is the culmination of a secret, months-long campaign by former Obama administration confidantes to handicap President Donald Trump's national security apparatus and preserve the nuclear deal with Iran, according to multiple sources in and out of the White House who described to the Washington Free Beacon a behind-the-scenes effort by these officials to plant a series of damaging stories about Flynn in the national media.

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration's efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump's inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump's national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beacon first reported on this effort in January.

Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon requested anonymity in order to speak freely about the situation and avoid interfering with the White House's official narrative about Flynn, which centers on his failure to adequately inform the president about a series of phone calls with Russian officials.

Flynn took credit for his missteps regarding these phone calls in a brief statement released late Monday evening. Trump administration officials subsequently stated that Flynn's efforts to mislead the president and vice president about his contacts with Russia could not be tolerated.

However, multiple sources closely involved in the situation pointed to a larger, more secretive campaign aimed at discrediting Flynn and undermining the Trump White House.

"It's undeniable that the campaign to discredit Flynn was well underway before Inauguration Day, with a very troublesome and politicized series of leaks designed to undermine him," said one veteran national security adviser with close ties to the White House team. "This pattern reminds me of the lead up to the Iran deal, and probably features the same cast of characters."

The Free Beacon first reported in January that, until its final days in office, the Obama administration hosted several pro-Iran voices who were critical in helping to mislead the American public about the terms of the nuclear agreement. This included a former Iranian government official and the head of the National Iranian American Council, or NIAC, which has been accused of serving as Iran's mouthpiece in Washington, D.C.

Since then, top members of the Obama administration's national security team have launched a communications infrastructure after they left the White House, and have told reporters they are using that infrastructure to undermine Trump's foreign policy.

"It's actually Ben Rhodes, NIAC, and the Iranian mullahs who are celebrating today," said one veteran foreign policy insider who is close to Flynn and the White House. "They know that the number one target is Iran … [and] they all knew their little sacred agreement with Iran was going to go off the books. So they got rid of Flynn before any of the [secret] agreements even surfaced."

Flynn had been preparing to publicize many of the details about the nuclear deal that had been intentionally hidden by the Obama administration as part of its effort to garner support for the deal, these sources said.

Flynn is now "gone before anybody can see what happened" with these secret agreements, said the second insider close to Flynn and the White House.

Sources in and out of the White House are concerned that the campaign against Flynn will be extended to other prominent figures in the Trump administration.

One senior White House official told the Free Beacon that leaks targeting the former official were "not the result of a series of random events."

"The drumbeat of leaks of sensitive material related to General Flynn has been building since he was named to his position," said the official, who is a member of the White House's National Security Council. "Last night was not the result of a series of random events. The president has lost a valuable adviser and we need to make sure this sort of thing does not happen again."

Other sources expressed concern that public trust in the intelligence community would be eroded by the actions of employees with anti-Trump agendas.

"The larger issue that should trouble the American people is the far-reaching power of unknown, unelected apparatchiks in the Intelligence Community deciding for themselves both who serves in government and what is an acceptable policy they will allow the elected representatives of the people to pursue," said the national security adviser quoted above.

"Put aside the issue of Flynn himself; that nameless, faceless bureaucrats were able to take out a president's national security adviser based on a campaign of innuendo without evidence should worry every American," the source explained.

Eli Lake, a Bloomberg View columnist and veteran national security reporter well sourced in the White House, told the Free Beacon that Flynn earned a reputation in the Obama administration as one of its top detractors.

"Michael Flynn was one of the Obama administration's fiercest critics after he was forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency," said Lake, who described "the political assassination of Michael Flynn" in his column published early Tuesday.

"[Flynn] was a withering critic of Obama's biggest foreign policy initiative, the Iran deal," Lake said. "He also publicly accused the administration of keeping classified documents found in the Osama bin Laden raid that showed Iran's close relationship with al Qaeda. He was a thorn in their side."

Lake noted in his column that he does not buy fully the White House's official spin on Flynn's resignation.

"For a White House that has such a casual and opportunistic relationship with the truth, it's strange that Flynn's ‘lie' to Pence would get him fired," Lake wrote. "It doesn't add up."

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer stated in his daily briefing that "the evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable incidents is what led the president to ask General Flynn for his resignation."

A third source who serves as a congressional adviser and was involved in the 2015 fight over the Iran deal told the Free Beacon that the Obama administration feared that Flynn would expose the secret agreements with Iran.

"The Obama administration knew that Flynn was going to release the secret documents around the Iran deal, which would blow up their myth that it was a good deal that rolled back Iran," the source said. "So in December the Obama NSC started going to work with their favorite reporters, selectively leaking damaging and incomplete information about Flynn."

"After Trump was inaugurated some of those people stayed in and some began working from the outside, and they cooperated to keep undermining Trump," the source said, detailing a series of leaks from within the White House in the past weeks targeting Flynn. "Last night's resignation was their first major win, but unless the Trump people get serious about cleaning house, it won't be the last."

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ust-flynn/

[ip_law-hokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

The abrupt resignation Monday evening of White House national security adviser Michael Flynn is the culmination of a secret, months-long campaign by former Obama administration confidantes to handicap President Donald Trump's national security apparatus and preserve the nuclear deal with Iran, according to multiple sources in and out of the White House who described to the Washington Free Beacon a behind-the-scenes effort by these officials to plant a series of damaging stories about Flynn in the national media.

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration's efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump's inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump's national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beacon first reported on this effort in January.

Sources who spoke to the Free Beacon requested anonymity in order to speak freely about the situation and avoid interfering with the White House's official narrative about Flynn, which centers on his failure to adequately inform the president about a series of phone calls with Russian officials.

Flynn took credit for his missteps regarding these phone calls in a brief statement released late Monday evening. Trump administration officials subsequently stated that Flynn's efforts to mislead the president and vice president about his contacts with Russia could not be tolerated.

However, multiple sources closely involved in the situation pointed to a larger, more secretive campaign aimed at discrediting Flynn and undermining the Trump White House.

"It's undeniable that the campaign to discredit Flynn was well underway before Inauguration Day, with a very troublesome and politicized series of leaks designed to undermine him," said one veteran national security adviser with close ties to the White House team. "This pattern reminds me of the lead up to the Iran deal, and probably features the same cast of characters."

The Free Beacon first reported in January that, until its final days in office, the Obama administration hosted several pro-Iran voices who were critical in helping to mislead the American public about the terms of the nuclear agreement. This included a former Iranian government official and the head of the National Iranian American Council, or NIAC, which has been accused of serving as Iran's mouthpiece in Washington, D.C.

Since then, top members of the Obama administration's national security team have launched a communications infrastructure after they left the White House, and have told reporters they are using that infrastructure to undermine Trump's foreign policy.

"It's actually Ben Rhodes, NIAC, and the Iranian mullahs who are celebrating today," said one veteran foreign policy insider who is close to Flynn and the White House. "They know that the number one target is Iran … [and] they all knew their little sacred agreement with Iran was going to go off the books. So they got rid of Flynn before any of the [secret] agreements even surfaced."

Flynn had been preparing to publicize many of the details about the nuclear deal that had been intentionally hidden by the Obama administration as part of its effort to garner support for the deal, these sources said.

Flynn is now "gone before anybody can see what happened" with these secret agreements, said the second insider close to Flynn and the White House.

Sources in and out of the White House are concerned that the campaign against Flynn will be extended to other prominent figures in the Trump administration.

One senior White House official told the Free Beacon that leaks targeting the former official were "not the result of a series of random events."

"The drumbeat of leaks of sensitive material related to General Flynn has been building since he was named to his position," said the official, who is a member of the White House's National Security Council. "Last night was not the result of a series of random events. The president has lost a valuable adviser and we need to make sure this sort of thing does not happen again."

Other sources expressed concern that public trust in the intelligence community would be eroded by the actions of employees with anti-Trump agendas.

"The larger issue that should trouble the American people is the far-reaching power of unknown, unelected apparatchiks in the Intelligence Community deciding for themselves both who serves in government and what is an acceptable policy they will allow the elected representatives of the people to pursue," said the national security adviser quoted above.

"Put aside the issue of Flynn himself; that nameless, faceless bureaucrats were able to take out a president's national security adviser based on a campaign of innuendo without evidence should worry every American," the source explained.

Eli Lake, a Bloomberg View columnist and veteran national security reporter well sourced in the White House, told the Free Beacon that Flynn earned a reputation in the Obama administration as one of its top detractors.

"Michael Flynn was one of the Obama administration's fiercest critics after he was forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency," said Lake, who described "the political assassination of Michael Flynn" in his column published early Tuesday.

"[Flynn] was a withering critic of Obama's biggest foreign policy initiative, the Iran deal," Lake said. "He also publicly accused the administration of keeping classified documents found in the Osama bin Laden raid that showed Iran's close relationship with al Qaeda. He was a thorn in their side."

Lake noted in his column that he does not buy fully the White House's official spin on Flynn's resignation.

"For a White House that has such a casual and opportunistic relationship with the truth, it's strange that Flynn's ‘lie' to Pence would get him fired," Lake wrote. "It doesn't add up."

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer stated in his daily briefing that "the evolving and eroding level of trust as a result of this situation and a series of other questionable incidents is what led the president to ask General Flynn for his resignation."

A third source who serves as a congressional adviser and was involved in the 2015 fight over the Iran deal told the Free Beacon that the Obama administration feared that Flynn would expose the secret agreements with Iran.

"The Obama administration knew that Flynn was going to release the secret documents around the Iran deal, which would blow up their myth that it was a good deal that rolled back Iran," the source said. "So in December the Obama NSC started going to work with their favorite reporters, selectively leaking damaging and incomplete information about Flynn."

"After Trump was inaugurated some of those people stayed in and some began working from the outside, and they cooperated to keep undermining Trump," the source said, detailing a series of leaks from within the White House in the past weeks targeting Flynn. "Last night's resignation was their first major win, but unless the Trump people get serious about cleaning house, it won't be the last."

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ust-flynn/

Trump asked Flynn to resign.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[VisorBoy]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

[ip_law-hokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Flynn is a victim. Obama.

[USN_Hokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Explain the lies to me using quotes. I'm dense.

[ip_law-hokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Explain the lies to me using quotes. I'm dense.

On behalf of VisorBoy, please kiss my ass.

[awesome guy]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Explain the lies to me using quotes. I'm dense.

On behalf of VisorBoy, please kiss my ass.

That's a lot of surface area to cover.

[133743Hokie]

Must have been nothing after all. You're totally right, USN.

All my comments still stand.

Congratulations, you got your scalp. He chose to resign.

Mike Pence got his scalp IMO. I think the VP had to show he had some balls and he did. The liberal media may be pushing this story but Flynn lied to the VPOTUS, the liberals didn't get their scalp, Pence did. Probably an important move for the administration.

Also an important move for the Agency. Flynn has been a big critic of them. They didn't like him. Didn't like the influence he was going to have on the NSC, particularly Trumps ear. So they got him - they bugged him/taped him, leaked it, and let his hubris do the rest.

I don't think this was a power play by Pence. Rather he was the tool used by the Agency to accomplish their goal. I'm sure in their mind the ends justify the means, but we need to be cautious of their interfering in domestic areas. They know no bounds.

They didn't "bug him". That implies that they were out to get him. His conversation was recorded in the normal course of business.

Gathered by NSA and provided to Obama people in the agency, not FBI. They aren't allowed to work domestically. For the NSA to record conversations of citizens they need a FISA court order which would have been filed by obama administration. Heads need to roll.

[USN_Hokie]

Must have been nothing after all. You're totally right, USN.

All my comments still stand.

Congratulations, you got your scalp. He chose to resign.

Mike Pence got his scalp IMO. I think the VP had to show he had some balls and he did. The liberal media may be pushing this story but Flynn lied to the VPOTUS, the liberals didn't get their scalp, Pence did. Probably an important move for the administration.

Also an important move for the Agency. Flynn has been a big critic of them. They didn't like him. Didn't like the influence he was going to have on the NSC, particularly Trumps ear. So they got him - they bugged him/taped him, leaked it, and let his hubris do the rest.

I don't think this was a power play by Pence. Rather he was the tool used by the Agency to accomplish their goal. I'm sure in their mind the ends justify the means, but we need to be cautious of their interfering in domestic areas. They know no bounds.

They didn't "bug him". That implies that they were out to get him. His conversation was recorded in the normal course of business.

Gathered by NSA and provided to Obama people in the agency, not FBI. They aren't allowed to work domestically. For the NSA to record conversations of citizens they need a FISA court order which would have been filed by obama administration. Heads need to roll.

This whole thing stinks.

[USN_Hokie]

If this is true, people should be tried for treason IMO. Trump needs to go through with a flamethrower to clean house.

Sources: Former Obama officials, loyalists planted series of stories to discredit Flynn, bolster Iran deal

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration's efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump's inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump's national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beacon first reported on this effort in January.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ust-flynn/

Also, IP should apologize.

[HokieJoe]

Unless I'm mistaken, whatever Flynn knew about the Iran deal, he still knows. And yes, heads, they should roll for this. Hopefully, Flynn will file a lawsuit because any intellectually honest LWNJ who poo-pooed the Patriot Act should be apoplectic about this crap.

[HokieHam]

If this is true, people should be tried for treason IMO. Trump needs to go through with a flamethrower to clean house.

Sources: Former Obama officials, loyalists planted series of stories to discredit Flynn, bolster Iran deal

The effort, said to include former Obama administration adviser Ben Rhodes—the architect of a separate White House effort to create what he described as a pro-Iran echo chamber—included a small task force of Obama loyalists who deluged media outlets with stories aimed at eroding Flynn's credibility, multiple sources revealed.

The operation primarily focused on discrediting Flynn, an opponent of the Iran nuclear deal, in order to handicap the Trump administration's efforts to disclose secret details of the nuclear deal with Iran that had been long hidden by the Obama administration.

Insiders familiar with the anti-Flynn campaign told the Free Beacon that these Obama loyalists plotted in the months before Trump's inauguration to establish a set of roadblocks before Trump's national security team, which includes several prominent opponents of diplomacy with Iran. The Free Beacon first reported on this effort in January.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... ust-flynn/

Also, IP should apologize.

Nah, just try to find a good bet for him to take.

[VisorBoy]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Explain the lies to me using quotes. I'm dense.

You haven't heard this? Read the Post, not the Free Beacon. Formally, he's stated he couldn't remember if he spoke about the sanctions or not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 9c0683e5a6

In a January television interview, Pence said that Flynn had told him the issue of sanctions did not come up in his conversations with the Russian ambassador.
...
President Trump had been aware for “weeks” that Flynn had misled Pence and other officials, but did not act until Monday night, forcing the national security adviser to resign, the White House said on Tuesday.
...
The White House Counsel's Office conducted a “review” of the legal issues and determined that “there was not a legal issue but rather a trust issue,” Spicer said. “The president was very concerned that General Flynn had misled the vice president and others. The president must have complete and unwavering trust of the person in that position.”

Also, from the Hill:

Flynn now admits he may have discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, but cannot be 100 percent certain, the official added.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... nce-report

From WP, through NBC News:


The Washington Post first reported that nine current and former officials had seen intelligence reports asserting that he discussed sanctions with Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, despite his assertions to The Post, to Vice President Mike Pence and to Spicer that the subject didn't come up.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h ... ns-n720191

[HokieHam]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Explain the lies to me using quotes. I'm dense.

You haven't heard this? Read the Post, not the Free Beacon. Formally, he's stated he couldn't remember if he spoke about the sanctions or not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 9c0683e5a6

In a January television interview, Pence said that Flynn had told him the issue of sanctions did not come up in his conversations with the Russian ambassador.
...
President Trump had been aware for “weeks” that Flynn had misled Pence and other officials, but did not act until Monday night, forcing the national security adviser to resign, the White House said on Tuesday.
...
The White House Counsel's Office conducted a “review” of the legal issues and determined that “there was not a legal issue but rather a trust issue,” Spicer said. “The president was very concerned that General Flynn had misled the vice president and others. The president must have complete and unwavering trust of the person in that position.”

Also, from the Hill:

Flynn now admits he may have discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, but cannot be 100 percent certain, the official added.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... nce-report

From WP, through NBC News:


The Washington Post first reported that nine current and former officials had seen intelligence reports asserting that he discussed sanctions with Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, despite his assertions to The Post, to Vice President Mike Pence and to Spicer that the subject didn't come up.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h ... ns-n720191

The Post? You mean the paper that falsely reported the Russians were hacking the nations power grid? Yeah.........Fake News.

[USN_Hokie]

The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... hael-flynn

Yup, this was nothing more than a pure political witch hunt, with Obama hold overs doing everything they can legal and illegal to get the goods on anyone that is part of the Trump admin. Its disgusting partisanship that is designed to undermine the Presidency. Trump should have everyone of these Obama hold overs, or lifelong liberal bureaucrats fired.

=============================================


Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
BY: Adam Kredo
February 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Do you agree that Flynn lied to Pence?

That's why he resigned. Lying about a talk with Russia not only exposes him to blackmail, but it's also.... lying to a superior's right-hand man.

Explain the lies to me using quotes. I'm dense.

You haven't heard this? Read the Post, not the Free Beacon. Formally, he's stated he couldn't remember if he spoke about the sanctions or not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... 9c0683e5a6

In a January television interview, Pence said that Flynn had told him the issue of sanctions did not come up in his conversations with the Russian ambassador.
...
President Trump had been aware for “weeks” that Flynn had misled Pence and other officials, but did not act until Monday night, forcing the national security adviser to resign, the White House said on Tuesday.
...
The White House Counsel's Office conducted a “review” of the legal issues and determined that “there was not a legal issue but rather a trust issue,” Spicer said. “The president was very concerned that General Flynn had misled the vice president and others. The president must have complete and unwavering trust of the person in that position.”

Also, from the Hill:

Flynn now admits he may have discussed sanctions with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December, but cannot be 100 percent certain, the official added.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... nce-report

From WP, through NBC News:


The Washington Post first reported that nine current and former officials had seen intelligence reports asserting that he discussed sanctions with Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, despite his assertions to The Post, to Vice President Mike Pence and to Spicer that the subject didn't come up.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h ... ns-n720191

That's what I thought, nothing. Saying we will look at it when we're in office isn't really discussing it. This is a petty attack unless there's more information I'm missing.

[RiverguyVT]

What am I missing? He discussed sanctions w Russia. Is that horrible, or is it "just" the lying about it to Pence that is worthy of flaying him over? I'm looking for the "Ah-hah! Gotcha!" but am missing it.

Is that on me?

[HokieJoe]

What am I missing? He discussed sanctions w Russia. Is that horrible, or is it "just" the lying about it to Pence that is worthy of flaying him over? I'm looking for the "Ah-hah! Gotcha!" but am missing it.

Is that on me?

I think the allegation was that he warned teh Russkies about the sanctions. OTOH, I don't know what the proof of that is. I haven't seen a gotcha' moment either. Lack of transparency with his boss? Yeah, he admitted that much. But hey, Flag waving and Murica' are suddenly en vogue with LWNJ's.

[RiverguyVT]

What am I missing? He discussed sanctions w Russia. Is that horrible, or is it "just" the lying about it to Pence that is worthy of flaying him over? I'm looking for the "Ah-hah! Gotcha!" but am missing it.

Is that on me?

I think the allegation was that he warned teh Russkies about the sanctions. OTOH, I don't know what the proof of that is. I haven't seen a gotcha' moment either. Lack of transparency with his boss? Yeah, he admitted that much. But hey, Flag waving and Murica' are suddenly en vogue with LWNJ's.

Let's say he warned them. Okay. That's the diplomacy racket. ..and?
I'm still missing the "stop the presses!" moment.

[HokieFanDC]

What am I missing? He discussed sanctions w Russia. Is that horrible, or is it "just" the lying about it to Pence that is worthy of flaying him over? I'm looking for the "Ah-hah! Gotcha!" but am missing it.

Is that on me?

,

He shouldn't have discussed sanctions with Russia, but there are lots of things people shouldn't do that are no big deal.
The fact that it was Russia, shows a lack of good judgment on Flynn's part.
When he lied to Pence, and others I'm sure, he took that bad judgment and lit it on fire. He should have known that his conversation would be recorded. He probably just thought it was unlikely it would ever be discovered. That's stupidity, or hubris. Then, when you combine the conversation and his lies about it, with the issues he's had in the past, it was time to go. He was a poor choice to start with...this is what you get when you hire people like that.

[HokieJoe]

What am I missing? He discussed sanctions w Russia. Is that horrible, or is it "just" the lying about it to Pence that is worthy of flaying him over? I'm looking for the "Ah-hah! Gotcha!" but am missing it.

Is that on me?

I think the allegation was that he warned teh Russkies about the sanctions. OTOH, I don't know what the proof of that is. I haven't seen a gotcha' moment either. Lack of transparency with his boss? Yeah, he admitted that much. But hey, Flag waving and Murica' are suddenly en vogue with LWNJ's.

Let's say he warned them. Okay. That's the diplomacy racket. ..and?
I'm still missing the "stop the presses!" moment.

I think that warning teh Russkies makes him a Putin stooge? I dunno' actually, just guessing. If one believes the recent reports, the bad press was nothing more than a coordinated effort to discredit him because he broke ranks with the Dalai bama's Iran deal.

[RiverguyVT]

What am I missing? He discussed sanctions w Russia. Is that horrible, or is it "just" the lying about it to Pence that is worthy of flaying him over? I'm looking for the "Ah-hah! Gotcha!" but am missing it.

Is that on me?

,

He shouldn't have discussed sanctions with Russia, but there are lots of things people shouldn't do that are no big deal.
The fact that it was Russia, shows a lack of good judgment on Flynn's part.
When he lied to Pence, and others I'm sure, he took that bad judgment and lit it on fire. He should have known that his conversation would be recorded. He probably just thought it was unlikely it would ever be discovered. That's stupidity, or hubris. Then, when you combine the conversation and his lies about it, with the issues he's had in the past, it was time to go. He was a poor choice to start with...this is what you get when you hire people like that.

Most troubling is that he was recorded. Why would he assume it would be?

[HooFighter]

Not just Flynn.

[awesome guy]

Not just Flynn.

No kidding, that's common practice for an incoming administration.