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Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:25 pm
by USN_Hokie
Old laws on the books used to protect Christianity are now being used to protect Islam.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 94796.html

It's really easy to take for granted freedom of speech in the United States. That and the inherent right to self defense are two of the protections our Constitution offers that really makes it special. Coincidentally, these are also the two rights which leftists are attacking.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:07 pm
by CFB Apologist
Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:22 pm
by nolanvt
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
Wasn't me. I think all organized religions are pretty dumb.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:31 pm
by ip_law-hokie
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
I wouldn't say that, and didn't say that, but I think burning a Koran for the sake of provocation is a stupid and counterproductive thing to do.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:33 pm
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
I wouldn't say that, and didn't say that, but I think burning a Koran for the sake of provocation is a stupid and counterproductive thing to do.
Agee

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:47 pm
by CFB Apologist
ip_law-hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
I wouldn't say that, and didn't say that, but I think burning a Koran for the sake of provocation is a stupid and counterproductive thing to do.
Do you feel the same way about the american flag?

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:52 pm
by ip_law-hokie
CFB Apologist wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
I wouldn't say that, and didn't say that, but I think burning a Koran for the sake of provocation is a stupid and counterproductive thing to do.
Do you feel the same way about the american flag?
Sure. There are better, more respectful ways to register one's protest with a nation's actions.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:56 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
I wouldn't say that, and didn't say that, but I think burning a Koran for the sake of provocation is a stupid and counterproductive thing to do.
Imprisoning people for igniting some paper is also counterproductive. Denmark's anti-blasphemy laws obviously didn't do a very good job protecting Christian beliefs.

I have no problems with casting sunlight on bad ideas

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:01 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:Wasn't it Diggety on the old UWS that said we should never make fun of or criticize the Koran because Muslims might get mad? or was that Nolan?
I wouldn't say that, and didn't say that, but I think burning a Koran for the sake of provocation is a stupid and counterproductive thing to do.
Imprisoning people for igniting some paper is also counterproductive. Denmark's anti-blasphemy laws obviously didn't do a very good job protecting Christian beliefs.

I have no problems with casting sunlight on bad ideas
That's a separate issue. Not sure how I come down on that (and also not sure what freedom of speech rights are afforded under Danish law).

I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:19 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:23 pm
by Major Kong
So does this mean that Dansk Folkekirke is no longer the State Religion of Denmark :?:

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:33 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:31 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.
Doesn't bother me. :D

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:19 pm
by HokieJoe
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.

So we should all modify our speech or else? We are nation of laws, and curbing speech in order to avoid physical violence should never be tolerated.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:57 pm
by ip_law-hokie
HokieJoe wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.

So we should all modify our speech or else? We are nation of laws, and curbing speech in order to avoid physical violence should never be tolerated.
Denmark. As I noted above, not sure how I come down on this as being punishable by imprisonment.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:42 am
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.

So we should all modify our speech or else? We are nation of laws, and curbing speech in order to avoid physical violence should never be tolerated.
Denmark. As I noted above, not sure how I come down on this as being punishable by imprisonment.
You'd be ok with imprisoning someone for burning Dianetics?

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:05 am
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.

So we should all modify our speech or else? We are nation of laws, and curbing speech in order to avoid physical violence should never be tolerated.
Denmark. As I noted above, not sure how I come down on this as being punishable by imprisonment.
You'd be ok with imprisoning someone for burning Dianetics?
not sure how I come down on this as being punishable by imprisonment

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:35 am
by HokieFanDC
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I could kind of see it as yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
Shouldn't that application be reserved for instances universally dangerous to everyone?
Enflaming passions in this manner is universally dangerous to everyone.

So we should all modify our speech or else? We are nation of laws, and curbing speech in order to avoid physical violence should never be tolerated.
Denmark. As I noted above, not sure how I come down on this as being punishable by imprisonment.
You'd be ok with imprisoning someone for burning Dianetics?
If by "imprison", you mean "give them a medal", then yes.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:47 am
by nolanvt
I'm glad we don't live under Denmark's or other countries' laws that prosecute speech to this degree. I think we generally get it right, but there should be rare exceptions to reckless speech that are likely to incite violent actions.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:51 am
by USN_Hokie
nolanvt wrote:I'm glad we don't live under Denmark's or other countries' laws that prosecute speech to this degree. I think we generally get it right, but there should be rare exceptions to reckless speech that are likely to incite violent actions.
Such as waiving a piece of cloth you don't like the pattern of?

How is your vision of free speech not worse than Denmark's?

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:20 pm
by nolanvt
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:I'm glad we don't live under Denmark's or other countries' laws that prosecute speech to this degree. I think we generally get it right, but there should be rare exceptions to reckless speech that are likely to incite violent actions.
Such as waiving a piece of cloth you don't like the pattern of?

How is your vision of free speech not worse than Denmark's?
Waiving the Southern Participation Trophy shouldn't be censored. Instead, you should just be allowed to look like an idiot.

Re: Denmark: Man charged with blasphemy after burning koran

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:13 pm
by awesome guy
nolanvt wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:I'm glad we don't live under Denmark's or other countries' laws that prosecute speech to this degree. I think we generally get it right, but there should be rare exceptions to reckless speech that are likely to incite violent actions.
Such as waiving a piece of cloth you don't like the pattern of?

How is your vision of free speech not worse than Denmark's?
Waiving the Southern Participation Trophy shouldn't be censored. Instead, you should just be allowed to look like an idiot.
Hey, it's not a Marshall diploma or something like that.