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I'm looking forward to controlled health care costs. Can't wait until it is implemented.

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I'm looking forward to controlled health care costs. Can't wait until it is implemented.


Well this bill is only 123 pages. That's already an improvement...this stuff is a lot easier when it's not written by lobbyists.

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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.

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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.


After Trump gets on it, it will be a beautiful plan. I think he will fix the bugs.

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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.


After Trump gets on it, it will be a beautiful plan. I think he will fix the bugs.


It would be hard to do worse.

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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.


After Trump gets on it, it will be a beautiful plan. I think he will fix the bugs.


It would be hard to do worse.


Biggest problem for republicans I see 4 senators have written trump and said they won't support bill if Medicaid expansion is dropped. Assuming no democrats defect, that torpedos the bill unless they stick to leaving Medicaid expansion. From what I saw the bill leaves it in place until 2020.


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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.

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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.


What do you expect though? Honestly what were you anticipating would come out of the house?


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ElbertoHokie wrote:
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Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.


What do you expect though? Honestly what were you anticipating would come out of the house?



What do I expect? Repeal and replacement with a bill that actually changes the health care landscape. Not the warmed over shiite we've had since the Dems passed Dumbocare.

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ElbertoHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.


What do you expect though? Honestly what were you anticipating would come out of the house?



What do I expect? Repeal and replacement with a bill that actually changes the health care landscape. Not the warmed over shiite we've had since the Dems passed Dumbocare.


It's not beautiful?


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HokieJoe wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.


What do you expect though? Honestly what were you anticipating would come out of the house?



What do I expect? Repeal and replacement with a bill that actually changes the health care landscape. Not the warmed over shiite we've had since the Dems passed Dumbocare.


The politicians ONLY want to get reelected. The left, right, doesnt matter. Any republican with a large elderly constituency will kick and scream over any Medicaid shrinking and that's just one point. No one wants to have their handout taken away. Boehner the political operative is right. A substantial repeal and replace will never happen.


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ElbertoHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.


What do you expect though? Honestly what were you anticipating would come out of the house?



What do I expect? Repeal and replacement with a bill that actually changes the health care landscape. Not the warmed over shiite we've had since the Dems passed Dumbocare.


The politicians ONLY want to get reelected. The left, right, doesnt matter. Any republican with a large elderly constituency will kick and scream over any Medicaid shrinking and that's just one point. No one wants to have their handout taken away. Boehner the political operative is right. A substantial repeal and replace will never happen.



Medicaid shrank for elders to help fund Odumbocare. As for Boehner, well, that's not surprising coming from a chain smoking bar bimbo.

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HokieJoe wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Well, I'm less than impressed so far. It's impossible to read unless you've got the original 2000pg bill and a ruler next to you. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but this appears to be polishing the turd IMO.



If Paul Ryan has anything to do with it, yep, it's a steamy turd.


What do you expect though? Honestly what were you anticipating would come out of the house?



What do I expect? Repeal and replacement with a bill that actually changes the health care landscape. Not the warmed over shiite we've had since the Dems passed Dumbocare.


The politicians ONLY want to get reelected. The left, right, doesnt matter. Any republican with a large elderly constituency will kick and scream over any Medicaid shrinking and that's just one point. No one wants to have their handout taken away. Boehner the political operative is right. A substantial repeal and replace will never happen.



Medicaid shrank for elders to help fund Odumbocare. As for Boehner, well, that's not surprising coming from a chain smoking bar bimbo.



CORRECTION: Medicare

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USN_Hokie wrote:
http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/statement-introduction-american-health-care-act


I love the folks screaming for obamacare to continue, costs are still rising rapidly, more paperwork, more regulation and most insurers are pulling out of the exchanges so people are back to gettiing individual insurance just like they used to.... never mind all the fraud.

but it is great. Whatever the repubs put forth is not going to be worse but ACA, Obamacare whatever you call it is not working at all and with the insurers pulling out of the exchanges people are still having issues getting coverage and we still have people that show up at a hospital with zero insurance and get full services

what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


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what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.

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what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.


Actually you could go purchase it before same as you can now, the subsidies are what the taxpayers were paying before in our health rates so now we have continually rising rates and our tax dollars going to the cost also. Have you noticed all the insurance companies that are quickly exiting the exchanges....so where are all these folks going to get insurance from?

or you can go to a job that has health insurance as part of your pay even if the employee has to pay a share of it


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cwtcr hokie wrote:
HooFighter wrote:
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what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.


Actually you could go purchase it before same as you can now, the subsidies are what the taxpayers were paying before in our health rates so now we have continually rising rates and our tax dollars going to the cost also. Have you noticed all the insurance companies that are quickly exiting the exchanges....so where are all these folks going to get insurance from?

or you can go to a job that has health insurance as part of your pay even if the employee has to pay a share of it


Obamacare is over. Trumpcare may lower our premiums. I'm looking forward to all the additional cash money.

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.


Actually you could go purchase it before same as you can now, the subsidies are what the taxpayers were paying before in our health rates so now we have continually rising rates and our tax dollars going to the cost also. Have you noticed all the insurance companies that are quickly exiting the exchanges....so where are all these folks going to get insurance from?

or you can go to a job that has health insurance as part of your pay even if the employee has to pay a share of it


Obamacare is over. Trumpcare may lower our premiums. I'm looking forward to all the additional cash money.


It's going to be the yugest, bestest insurance ever.

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HooFighter wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HooFighter wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.


Actually you could go purchase it before same as you can now, the subsidies are what the taxpayers were paying before in our health rates so now we have continually rising rates and our tax dollars going to the cost also. Have you noticed all the insurance companies that are quickly exiting the exchanges....so where are all these folks going to get insurance from?

or you can go to a job that has health insurance as part of your pay even if the employee has to pay a share of it


Obamacare is over. Trumpcare may lower our premiums. I'm looking forward to all the additional cash money.


It's going to be the yugest, bestest insurance ever.


Better, cheaper, universal.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HooFighter wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.


Actually you could go purchase it before same as you can now, the subsidies are what the taxpayers were paying before in our health rates so now we have continually rising rates and our tax dollars going to the cost also. Have you noticed all the insurance companies that are quickly exiting the exchanges....so where are all these folks going to get insurance from?

or you can go to a job that has health insurance as part of your pay even if the employee has to pay a share of it


Obamacare is over. Trumpcare may lower our premiums. I'm looking forward to all the additional cash money.


the only way to lower costs is not try to save everyone or for people to get much healthier, neither is going to occur but sorry Obamacare is not the answer and the added costs in it is only making it worse. So yes it needs to be worked on to attempt to at least drive some costs it put into our healthcare out of it.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HooFighter wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HooFighter wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
what has obamacare done beside raise the costs?


It has allowed a lot of people who couldn't previously afford it to purchase health insurance. I know this doesn't matter to you though.


Actually you could go purchase it before same as you can now, the subsidies are what the taxpayers were paying before in our health rates so now we have continually rising rates and our tax dollars going to the cost also. Have you noticed all the insurance companies that are quickly exiting the exchanges....so where are all these folks going to get insurance from?

or you can go to a job that has health insurance as part of your pay even if the employee has to pay a share of it


Obamacare is over. Trumpcare may lower our premiums. I'm looking forward to all the additional cash money.


It's going to be the yugest, bestest insurance ever.


Better, cheaper, universal.


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or from your guy, You will not lose your coverage.... or... you can keep your plan.... or each family will get $2,500 back ....remember those?


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Obamacare is over. Trumpcare may lower our premiums. I'm looking forward to all the additional cash money.[/quote]

It's going to be the yugest, bestest insurance ever.[/quote]

Better, cheaper, universal.


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or from your guy, You will not lose your coverage.... or... you can keep your plan.... or each family will get $2,500 back ....remember those?[/quote]

I'm ready for Trumpcare. Enough with the old. Ready to embrace the new plan.

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