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Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03 ... -says.html
This is the part that the smoking gun will have to prove:

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

No one doubts the incidental surveillance during the FBI's investigation of the Russians. The question is whether it's proven to be the Obama administration (and specifically Obama himself) strategized to use that as a cover for something illegal or sinister.
Regardless, no one will ever be able to prove that Obama ordered it, even if he did. This type of stuff is done by surrogates and third parties. His hands are clean. People need to give up thinking that O is going to somehow get hund out to dry on this. Worst case Valerie Jarrett takes a bullet.

I'm more than fine with Valerie Jarrett going to jail.
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Yup. He's right about Killary too.......she's skated thus far, but her ass needs to be locked up.
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Yup. He's right about Killary too.......she's skated thus far, but her ass needs to be locked up.
what is comical about all this russia crap and the dems is the DNC cheated the Bern out of the nomination, Obama is spying on Trump illegally and even with all that

THUNDER THIGHS GOT CRUSHED IN THE ELECTION, never mind all the folks voting that should not have been able to vote. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
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Yup. He's right about Killary too.......she's skated thus far, but her ass needs to be locked up.
what is comical about all this russia crap and the dems is the DNC cheated the Bern out of the nomination, Obama is spying on Trump illegally and even with all that

THUNDER THIGHS GOT CRUSHED IN THE ELECTION, never mind all the folks voting that should not have been able to vote. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Furthermore, Pinko Bernie seems to bear no ill will toward the Washington Establishment and the Democrat Party who
dropped a hot carl on him. He'll continue to be a reliable democrat vote while enjoying his lake house, windfall of saved and unspent cash campaign donations and free gold standard healthcare. Life is sweet for the pied piper of shared misery.
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The "Russian intervention" is just a ruse to justify illegal wire tapping.
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In his defense, this guy is an absolute **** moron.
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It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
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HooFighter wrote:In his defense, this guy is an absolute **** moron.


Then you would have something in common with him.
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133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.

Obama WH: Hey guys we need some real dirt on Trump. How can we get it?

Obama Ballwashers: We've tried the FISA court twice your Eminence, but they rejected us because our requests were too specific to Trump.

Obama WH: Well, lets just surveill everyone associated with Trump then. That way, we aren't surveilling Trump, but we really are, incidentally of course.

Ballwashers: Yes your Eminence. That is a great idea your Eminence...
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133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.
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HokieJoe wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.

Obama WH: Hey guys we need some real dirt on Trump. How can we get it?

Obama Ballwashers: We've tried the FISA court twice your Eminence, but they rejected us because our requests were too specific to Trump.

Obama WH: Well, lets just surveill everyone associated with Trump then. That way, we aren't surveilling Trump, but we really are, incidentally of course.

Ballwashers: Yes your Eminence. That is a great idea your Eminence...
Yep. Total abuse of power by Obama the Dirtbag
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awesome guy wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.

Obama WH: Hey guys we need some real dirt on Trump. How can we get it?

Obama Ballwashers: We've tried the FISA court twice your Eminence, but they rejected us because our requests were too specific to Trump.

Obama WH: Well, lets just surveill everyone associated with Trump then. That way, we aren't surveilling Trump, but we really are, incidentally of course.

Ballwashers: Yes your Eminence. That is a great idea your Eminence...
Yep. Total abuse of power by Obama the Dirtbag
Yup. No doubt in my mind he's behind all the crap.....IRS, DOJ, the leaks and this.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.
I think you laid out what is happening pretty well yesterday. What McInerney is saying, that someone was targeting Trump tower with electronic surveillance, is completely contrary to what Nunes said. Then again, McInerney is a birther, so you would expect some crazy things to come out of his mouth. Side note, I hope I look and sound as healthy as he does when I'm 80. He should be selling anti-aging concoctions.
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TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."
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TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."

WADR, your claim that everyone except liberal ideologues thinks Trump was right, is bullshirt. Most ppl, including a firm Trump supporter in Nunes, are still saying there is no evidence to back up Trump's claims. You, AG, and Jeff Lords, are in a small minority on this one. And you all ignore all the other tweets from Trump that had to do with someone actually electronically surveilling Trump tower. Even your claim above, that he was "under surveillance", is not consistent with what Nunes says has happened.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."
That's funny coming from one of the more partisan posters on the board. I did get enjoyment out of your opinion on my reaction to a hypothetical. I have a history here of showing unending support for criminals so it makes perfect sense.

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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."

WADR, your claim that everyone except liberal ideologues thinks Trump was right, is bullshirt. Most ppl, including a firm Trump supporter in Nunes, are still saying there is no evidence to back up Trump's claims. You, AG, and Jeff Lords, are in a small minority on this one. And you all ignore all the other tweets from Trump that had to do with someone actually electronically surveilling Trump tower. Even your claim above, that he was "under surveillance", is not consistent with what Nunes says has happened.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."

WADR, your claim that everyone except liberal ideologues thinks Trump was right, is bullshirt. Most ppl, including a firm Trump supporter in Nunes, are still saying there is no evidence to back up Trump's claims. You, AG, and Jeff Lords, are in a small minority on this one. And you all ignore all the other tweets from Trump that had to do with someone actually electronically surveilling Trump tower. Even your claim above, that he was "under surveillance", is not consistent with what Nunes says has happened.
My comment about Trump being right was meant in future tense, I don't think that's been fully realized yet.

You should listen to Nunes' press conferences this week again. What he's said is perfectly in line with everything I've said.
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awesome guy wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Looks like we found our idiot.
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TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."
That's funny coming from one of the more partisan posters on the board. I did get enjoyment out of your opinion on my reaction to a hypothetical. I have a history here of showing unending support for criminals so it makes perfect sense.

How does Trump's ass taste?
To summarize your response....you don't have an argument.

Got it. I realize that Trump is a threat to the swamp, (otherwise known as big government) which you love so much, but there's no reason to lose your cool and be uncivil like this.
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Re: Trump transition members were under surveillance

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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:It's coming down to semantics IMO. Trumps accusation is that the Obama administration intentionally electronically eavesdropped on him and his team. What is coming out now is that Trump and his teams electronic communications were swept up in a broader collection effort, not necessarily targeted at them, but that the names, places, specifics, etc. were then disseminated by the Obama administration to multiple intelligence agencies in an attempt to discredit Trump and his team.

So, did Obama wiretap Trump? No, it doesn't appear so. Did the Obama administration gather electronic surveillance on Trumps people and pass it around the intel community? Probably.
People are arguing semantics to cloud the issue, but the accusations are very real.

No, I don't believe some guy climbed up a telephone pole and attached alligator clips to land lines which enter Trump Tower. No sane person interpreted his comments like that.

He said "wires tapped" in Trump Towers. He was quite specific. He then compared what Obama did to Nixon. Is there evidence of "wire tapping" in Trump Towers? This is the same guy that said our president was born in Kenya and millions voted illegally and his dick isn't small and his crowd size was bigger.

The beauty for him is that he says stupid $hit so often. I have someone looking into the birth certificate and you wouldn't believe what they're finding.....

Given everything he says, I would find it hard for sane people to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He quoted "wires tapped".

I know this will never make sense to you because your world view depends upon it not making sense, but when Trump says this, and it's confirmed he was under surveillance, everyone except for the liberal ideologues thinks "Trump was right."

Again, your argument over semantics is irrelevant to the discussion. Obama could go to prison for this and H2 / Politifake would still be calling Trump's claim "Pants on Fire."
That's funny coming from one of the more partisan posters on the board. I did get enjoyment out of your opinion on my reaction to a hypothetical. I have a history here of showing unending support for criminals so it makes perfect sense.

How does Trump's ass taste?
To summarize your response....you don't have an argument.

Got it. I realize that Trump is a threat to the swamp, (otherwise known as big government) which you love so much, but there's no reason to lose your cool and be uncivil like this.
No different than your post, just less PC.
People who know, know.
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