PSA...Trump has some great tweets this morning.

[USN_Hokie]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

WOAH.....

MSM is going to have a field day with that one, lol.

[USN_Hokie]

Melania sure is doing a great job on her cyberbullying task force.

You think low IQ crazy Mika needs the patriarchy to protect her from criticism?

[cwtcr hokie]

Anyone care to translate this gem? I assume this is some sort of veiled threat against the Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post.

It reads like an insinuation that Amazon isn't collecting sales taxes they should be? I can't think of any other “internet tax”. Of course sales/use taxes vary from state to state. There is no such thing as an “internet tax”. When you buy something — whether from a brick and mortar or in cyberspace — you, the buyer, are responsible for paying the sales tax. Most if the time the seller will collect the sales tax from you and remit it on your behalf to the state, but many internet vendors do not bother to collect sales tax on items they have to ship out of state. If you buy something and the receipt does not indicate you were charged sales tax, you are responsible for reporting it and paying use tax to your state.

And recently states have taken to adding a line for use tax to your state income tax return, which you are required to sign under penalty of perjury that you are filing an accurate return. If you check the box indicating no use tax is due and the state later finds you bought a bunch of stuff on the internet without paying sales tax, they will be able to nail your ass to the wall, if they choose to do so.

So why shouldn't internet retailers be required to collect sales tax? Large retailers work in multiple states and set up their POS to accommodate each. Why can't online retailers do the same? It would be very easy to do.

Oh, I know why. Because it would then make their products look more expensive and more in line with brick and mortar competitors. That and the fact that their lobby has lined the pockets of state and federal legislators.

Why does it matter? The buyer is responsible for paying the tax, whether they pay it to the seller or the state. They always have been — and that part is key. The use tax is nothing new. It's been a thing for decades, since way before the advent of the internet. Sellers who have no employees or fixed assets (stores, distribution centers, call centers, etc.) within a state are not required to collect sales tax. It's just the way it is. Always has been. Because states have no recourse or ability to enforce a requirement of those vendors to collect sales tax.

Bottom line is, the buyer has always been responsible for paying sales/use tax, regardless of whether the seller collected it.

So why are there laws requiring brick and mortar businesses to collect sales taxes and remit them to the state/locality? Why the different treatment? We both know why.

it is a matter of nexis, state sales tax from way back were if you were located there you sold stuff you had to collect for the state, the internet retailers have a location somewhere or a warehouse they ship out of and unless it is in the state they are not REQUIRED to collect it as they do not have nexis. The problem is this is based on past times, as of now all vendors should be required to collect on any state they sell into IMO which would make it much easier for the consumer and everyone is on a level playing field. And with states being broke and dying for tax dollars they have gotten much more aggressive on going after companies and consumers for sales tax.

[RiverguyVT]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

WOAH.....

It's GOLD, Jerry!! Gold!

[133743Hokie]

Anyone care to translate this gem? I assume this is some sort of veiled threat against the Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post.

It reads like an insinuation that Amazon isn't collecting sales taxes they should be? I can't think of any other “internet tax”. Of course sales/use taxes vary from state to state. There is no such thing as an “internet tax”. When you buy something — whether from a brick and mortar or in cyberspace — you, the buyer, are responsible for paying the sales tax. Most if the time the seller will collect the sales tax from you and remit it on your behalf to the state, but many internet vendors do not bother to collect sales tax on items they have to ship out of state. If you buy something and the receipt does not indicate you were charged sales tax, you are responsible for reporting it and paying use tax to your state.

And recently states have taken to adding a line for use tax to your state income tax return, which you are required to sign under penalty of perjury that you are filing an accurate return. If you check the box indicating no use tax is due and the state later finds you bought a bunch of stuff on the internet without paying sales tax, they will be able to nail your ass to the wall, if they choose to do so.

So why shouldn't internet retailers be required to collect sales tax? Large retailers work in multiple states and set up their POS to accommodate each. Why can't online retailers do the same? It would be very easy to do.

Oh, I know why. Because it would then make their products look more expensive and more in line with brick and mortar competitors. That and the fact that their lobby has lined the pockets of state and federal legislators.

Why does it matter? The buyer is responsible for paying the tax, whether they pay it to the seller or the state. They always have been — and that part is key. The use tax is nothing new. It's been a thing for decades, since way before the advent of the internet. Sellers who have no employees or fixed assets (stores, distribution centers, call centers, etc.) within a state are not required to collect sales tax. It's just the way it is. Always has been. Because states have no recourse or ability to enforce a requirement of those vendors to collect sales tax.

Bottom line is, the buyer has always been responsible for paying sales/use tax, regardless of whether the seller collected it.

So why are there laws requiring brick and mortar businesses to collect sales taxes and remit them to the state/locality? Why the different treatment? We both know why.

Because the state can put a lien on brick and mortar property... it's easier to collect. Also, the brick and mortar typically only has the one state. Internet sales can touch all 50 and the filing requirements would be absolutely nuts. Keeping track of sales tax would become a full time job. For big outfit like Amazon, they have the ability to do it for relative low cost. For smaller retailers, it's cost prohibitive. That's why.

We want the internet to represent the best parts of capitalism — the closest thing left to a truly free market — and that's not possible if you make prohibitive requirements of the seller. In the end, paying these taxes has always been the buyer's responsibility, so let the buyer take care if it. He can do so by writing a single number on his state tax return each year. It doesn't get any easier than that.

Major retailers have brick and mortar stores everywhere in every state and locality, yet they are able to collect sales taxes.

Your belief that we want the internet to be the best parts of capitalism is just that, your belief, nothing more. There is nothing magical, mystical or pure about e-tail. It's just another way of offering a product. Nothing more, nothing less. The reality is their lobbyists got out in front of this issue early and have been able to fight off sales tax collection, despite the huge contradiction and special treatment. As internet sales grow, and given how strapped state and local governments are for revenue, it will be harder and harder for them to hold the government at bay because they know they are losing huge amounts of money.

[Major Kong]

FTR when I buy something from Amazon VA sales tax is applied.

The same with newegg.

[Hokie CPA]

So why are there laws requiring brick and mortar businesses to collect sales taxes and remit them to the state/locality? Why the different treatment? We both know why.

Because the state can put a lien on brick and mortar property... it's easier to collect. Also, the brick and mortar typically only has the one state. Internet sales can touch all 50 and the filing requirements would be absolutely nuts. Keeping track of sales tax would become a full time job. For big outfit like Amazon, they have the ability to do it for relative low cost. For smaller retailers, it's cost prohibitive. That's why.

We want the internet to represent the best parts of capitalism — the closest thing left to a truly free market — and that's not possible if you make prohibitive requirements of the seller. In the end, paying these taxes has always been the buyer's responsibility, so let the buyer take care if it. He can do so by writing a single number on his state tax return each year. It doesn't get any easier than that.

Major retailers have brick and mortar stores everywhere in every state and locality, yet they are able to collect sales taxes.

Your belief that we want the internet to be the best parts of capitalism is just that, your belief, nothing more. There is nothing magical, mystical or pure about e-tail. It's just another way of offering a product. Nothing more, nothing less. The reality is their lobbyists got out in front of this issue early and have been able to fight off sales tax collection, despite the huge contradiction and special treatment. As internet sales grow, and given how strapped state and local governments are for revenue, it will be harder and harder for them to hold the government at bay because they know they are losing huge amounts of money.

I still don't think it matters, the end result is going to be the same. The buyer is responsible for paying the tax. That said, if you want to lobby for a change in the law in order to get etailers to collect it, you have to get out in front of it by telling everyone exactly what I've been saying all throughout this thread... It is NOT a new tax. People have to understand they are liable for the use tax on all of their internet purchases already and if they haven't been paying it, they are guilty of tax evasion.

The biggest opposition isn't so much from the sellers, contrary to what you may believe. The biggest backlash is from buyers who think the government is trying to create a new tax for then to have to pay. They believe internet purchases are tax free, and that is simply not true.

[Hokie CPA]

Melania sure is doing a great job on her cyberbullying task force.

You think low IQ crazy Mika needs the patriarchy to protect her from criticism?

They have four talking heads in split screen talking about it in CNN right now. Isn't there any real news for the News networks to cover?

[awesome guy]

Melania sure is doing a great job on her cyberbullying task force.

You think low IQ crazy Mika needs the patriarchy to protect her from criticism?

They have four talking heads in split screen talking about it in CNN right now. Isn't there any real news for the News networks to cover?

The DNC loses on issues so they stick with fake news.

[ip_law-hokie]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

classy

[awesome guy]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

classy

Yep, the socialites got called out for their duplicitous and classless behavior. Typical phony liberals.

[ip_law-hokie]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

classy

Yep, the socialites got called out for their duplicitous and classless behavior. Typical phony liberals.

Danville classy I suppose.

[awesome guy]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

classy

Yep, the socialites got called out for their duplicitous and classless behavior. Typical phony liberals.

Danville classy I suppose.

NY/PA classy

[USN_Hokie]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

classy

[awesome guy]

Low IQ Mika... Lol.

OMG. LMAO.

classy

LOL

[HokieFanDC]

Anyone care to translate this gem? I assume this is some sort of veiled threat against the Jeff Bezos and the Washington Post.

It reads like an insinuation that Amazon isn't collecting sales taxes they should be? I can't think of any other “internet tax”. Of course sales/use taxes vary from state to state. There is no such thing as an “internet tax”. When you buy something — whether from a brick and mortar or in cyberspace — you, the buyer, are responsible for paying the sales tax. Most if the time the seller will collect the sales tax from you and remit it on your behalf to the state, but many internet vendors do not bother to collect sales tax on items they have to ship out of state. If you buy something and the receipt does not indicate you were charged sales tax, you are responsible for reporting it and paying use tax to your state.

And recently states have taken to adding a line for use tax to your state income tax return, which you are required to sign under penalty of perjury that you are filing an accurate return. If you check the box indicating no use tax is due and the state later finds you bought a bunch of stuff on the internet without paying sales tax, they will be able to nail your ass to the wall, if they choose to do so.

So why shouldn't internet retailers be required to collect sales tax? Large retailers work in multiple states and set up their POS to accommodate each. Why can't online retailers do the same? It would be very easy to do.

Oh, I know why. Because it would then make their products look more expensive and more in line with brick and mortar competitors. That and the fact that their lobby has lined the pockets of state and federal legislators.

Some states have laws requiring internet retailers collect and remit sales tax. Amazon already does that in every state that has a sales tax, regardless of whether there is a law requiring it.

[HokieFanDC]

Melania sure is doing a great job on her cyberbullying task force.

You think low IQ crazy Mika needs the patriarchy to protect her from criticism?

They have four talking heads in split screen talking about it in CNN right now. Isn't there any real news for the News networks to cover?

Good point. Trump being a douche is not news anymore.

[WestEndHokie39]

Melania sure is doing a great job on her cyberbullying task force.

You think low IQ crazy Mika needs the patriarchy to protect her from criticism?

They have four talking heads in split screen talking about it in CNN right now. Isn't there any real news for the News networks to cover?

Good point. Trump being a douche is not news anymore.

(Insert name here) being a douche is not news anymore. Pitiful state of discourse in the US right now.

[USN_Hokie]

Quote:

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward. See 8 great campaign slogans »

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

...

The slurs flew back and forth, with John Quincy Adams being labeled a pimp, and Andrew Jackson's wife getting called a slut.

As the election progressed, editorials in the American newspapers read more like bathroom graffiti than political commentary. One paper reported that "General Jackson's mother was a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers! She afterward married a mulatto man, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson is one!"

Nothing has changed. Churchill had a devilish tongue as well. It seems to be a trademark of effective leaders, but I'm sure it's offensive to women and men who were raised by women.

[HokieFanDC]

Quote:

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward. See 8 great campaign slogans »

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

...

The slurs flew back and forth, with John Quincy Adams being labeled a pimp, and Andrew Jackson's wife getting called a slut.

As the election progressed, editorials in the American newspapers read more like bathroom graffiti than political commentary. One paper reported that "General Jackson's mother was a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers! She afterward married a mulatto man, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson is one!"

Nothing has changed. Churchill had a devilish tongue as well. It seems to be a trademark of effective leaders, but I'm sure it's offensive to women and men who were raised by women.

Atta boy! You've earned today's kibble ration.

[USN_Hokie]

Quote:

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward. See 8 great campaign slogans »

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

...

The slurs flew back and forth, with John Quincy Adams being labeled a pimp, and Andrew Jackson's wife getting called a slut.

As the election progressed, editorials in the American newspapers read more like bathroom graffiti than political commentary. One paper reported that "General Jackson's mother was a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers! She afterward married a mulatto man, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson is one!"

Nothing has changed. Churchill had a devilish tongue as well. It seems to be a trademark of effective leaders, but I'm sure it's offensive to women and men who were raised by women.

Atta boy! You've earned today's kibble ration.

Have to you told you mom where Trump's tweet touched you?

[HokieFanDC]

Quote:

Jefferson's camp accused President Adams of having a "hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman."

In return, Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."

As the slurs piled on, Adams was labeled a fool, a hypocrite, a criminal, and a tyrant, while Jefferson was branded a weakling, an atheist, a libertine, and a coward. See 8 great campaign slogans »

Even Martha Washington succumbed to the propaganda, telling a clergyman that Jefferson was "one of the most detestable of mankind."

...

The slurs flew back and forth, with John Quincy Adams being labeled a pimp, and Andrew Jackson's wife getting called a slut.

As the election progressed, editorials in the American newspapers read more like bathroom graffiti than political commentary. One paper reported that "General Jackson's mother was a common prostitute, brought to this country by the British soldiers! She afterward married a mulatto man, with whom she had several children, of which number General Jackson is one!"

Nothing has changed. Churchill had a devilish tongue as well. It seems to be a trademark of effective leaders, but I'm sure it's offensive to women and men who were raised by women.

Atta boy! You've earned today's kibble ration.

Have to you told you mom where Trump's tweet touched you?

You sound angry...seems like you're the one who's offended here.

[USN_Hokie]

You sound angry...seems like you're the one who's offended here.

LOL, nope. Stuff like this doesn't upset a man. It didn't upset generations of men before who were blunt and genuine in their language. Beating around the bush and using non-offensive wishy-washy language is what chicks do. Politicians started using wishy washy bullshit when women became a voting block (around the same time as the welfare state...not a coincidence). Trump was elected in part because he's blunt and to the point, instead of blowing flowery bullshirt up your arse.

I'm genuinely sorry that Trump's words hurt you, though. Maybe Egg McMuffin gave him a scolding....let me check...aww, yep:

There's the Egg McMuffin libtard DC voted for. He's also talking about Russia still, lol.

[awesome guy]

You sound angry...seems like you're the one who's offended here.

LOL, nope. Stuff like this doesn't upset a man. It didn't upset generations of men before who were blunt and genuine in their language. Beating around the bush and using non-offensive wishy-washy language is what chicks do. Politicians started using wishy washy bullshit when women became a voting block (around the same time as the welfare state...not a coincidence). Trump was elected in part because he's blunt and to the point, instead of blowing flowery bullshirt up your arse.

I'm genuinely sorry that Trump's words hurt you, though. Maybe Egg McMuffin gave him a scolding....let me check...aww, yep:

There's the Egg McMuffin libtard DC voted for. He's also talking about Russia still, lol.

They fight like bitches. They're just as nasty towards Trump as their feigned outrage towards him is. They just hate that he's above the table in his attacks and not a passive aggressive bitch like they are in their attacks.

[HokieFanDC]

You sound angry...seems like you're the one who's offended here.

LOL, nope. Stuff like this doesn't upset a man. It didn't upset generations of men before who were blunt and genuine in their language. Beating around the bush and using non-offensive wishy-washy language is what chicks do. Politicians started using wishy washy bullshit when women became a voting block (around the same time as the welfare state...not a coincidence). Trump was elected in part because he's blunt and to the point, instead of blowing flowery bullshirt up your arse.

I'm genuinely sorry that Trump's words hurt you, though. Maybe Egg McMuffin gave him a scolding....let me check...aww, yep:

There's the Egg McMuffin libtard DC voted for. He's also talking about Russia still, lol.

They fight like bitches. They're just as nasty towards Trump as their feigned outrage towards him is. They just hate that he's above the table in his attacks and not a passive aggressive bitch like they are in their attacks.

Passive aggressive - says the guy who's talking about me, but doing so by replying indirectly (if you even know what that means) to your safespace buddy.

You're the two biggest girls on UWS. If we could construct a clothesline and a fence for you two hens to gossip over, you'd be right at home.