BJ diplomacy? Really?ip_law-hokie wrote:I'd take it over twitter diplomacy.USN_Hokie wrote:IP's idea of Presidential is getting blown by interns in the oval office and lying under oath.ip_law-hokie wrote:Rapid fire tweets. Hokie80 is our commander in chief. How presidential.RiverguyVT wrote:Gosh, CT has terrible office holders.
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"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.USN_Hokie wrote:Your link (which describes itself as a "social justice-oriented media company dedicated to providing the bold, combative, thought-provoking journalism that the current regime opposes.") is bullshirt and doesn't support the argument you're making. It sounds like a bunch of people who have no idea how security clearances work jumping to conclusions.HokieFanDC wrote:You should get some better resources.USN_Hokie wrote: I suppose you have a link to substantiate all of that? The ones I've seen don't.
It's been reported in a lot of places, mostly from the NBC tweet in this article. The main point being that the NSA is supposed to be independently vetted by the CIA to receive the level of clearance that the NSA has. Blaming Obama is silly.
http://resistancereport.com/politics/tr ... clearance/
The word granted is key there. Something like that would probably take a while - that doesn't mean that it wasn't started. Also, I'd like to see the exact requirements. I'd bet the clearance is only required for certain information.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.USN_Hokie wrote:Your link (which describes itself as a "social justice-oriented media company dedicated to providing the bold, combative, thought-provoking journalism that the current regime opposes.") is bullshirt and doesn't support the argument you're making. It sounds like a bunch of people who have no idea how security clearances work jumping to conclusions.HokieFanDC wrote:You should get some better resources.USN_Hokie wrote: I suppose you have a link to substantiate all of that? The ones I've seen don't.
It's been reported in a lot of places, mostly from the NBC tweet in this article. The main point being that the NSA is supposed to be independently vetted by the CIA to receive the level of clearance that the NSA has. Blaming Obama is silly.
http://resistancereport.com/politics/tr ... clearance/
The word granted is key there. Something like that would probably take a while - that doesn't mean that it wasn't started. Also, I'd like to see the exact requirements. I'd bet the clearance is only required for certain information.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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Apparently he needed NSA I believe. He had the others, and they were renewed recently under Obama. Typically these govt. positions allow the individual to begin work with an interim clearance while the process is taking place. I have no idea whether the process had begun or not for the one he needed.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.USN_Hokie wrote:Your link (which describes itself as a "social justice-oriented media company dedicated to providing the bold, combative, thought-provoking journalism that the current regime opposes.") is bullshirt and doesn't support the argument you're making. It sounds like a bunch of people who have no idea how security clearances work jumping to conclusions.HokieFanDC wrote:You should get some better resources.USN_Hokie wrote: I suppose you have a link to substantiate all of that? The ones I've seen don't.
It's been reported in a lot of places, mostly from the NBC tweet in this article. The main point being that the NSA is supposed to be independently vetted by the CIA to receive the level of clearance that the NSA has. Blaming Obama is silly.
http://resistancereport.com/politics/tr ... clearance/
The word granted is key there. Something like that would probably take a while - that doesn't mean that it wasn't started. Also, I'd like to see the exact requirements. I'd bet the clearance is only required for certain information.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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???awesome guy wrote:There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.USN_Hokie wrote:Your link (which describes itself as a "social justice-oriented media company dedicated to providing the bold, combative, thought-provoking journalism that the current regime opposes.") is bullshirt and doesn't support the argument you're making. It sounds like a bunch of people who have no idea how security clearances work jumping to conclusions.HokieFanDC wrote: You should get some better resources.
It's been reported in a lot of places, mostly from the NBC tweet in this article. The main point being that the NSA is supposed to be independently vetted by the CIA to receive the level of clearance that the NSA has. Blaming Obama is silly.
http://resistancereport.com/politics/tr ... clearance/
The word granted is key there. Something like that would probably take a while - that doesn't mean that it wasn't started. Also, I'd like to see the exact requirements. I'd bet the clearance is only required for certain information.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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You're operating under the old world. My DHS clearance was accepted by DoD as they're a lot more collaborative now. I think you're also referring to job specific clearing like lifestyle poly that required for CS, but are still issued through DHS.133743Hokie wrote:???awesome guy wrote:There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.USN_Hokie wrote: Your link (which describes itself as a "social justice-oriented media company dedicated to providing the bold, combative, thought-provoking journalism that the current regime opposes.") is bullshirt and doesn't support the argument you're making. It sounds like a bunch of people who have no idea how security clearances work jumping to conclusions.
The word granted is key there. Something like that would probably take a while - that doesn't mean that it wasn't started. Also, I'd like to see the exact requirements. I'd bet the clearance is only required for certain information.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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Didn't know you made your money off the government. Good stuff.awesome guy wrote:You're operating under the old world. My DHS clearance was accepted by DoD as they're a lot more collaborative now. I think you're also referring to job specific clearing like lifestyle poly that required for CS, but are still issued through DHS.133743Hokie wrote:???awesome guy wrote:There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote: Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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Keeping you safe!ip_law-hokie wrote:Didn't know you made your money off the government. Good stuff.awesome guy wrote:You're operating under the old world. My DHS clearance was accepted by DoD as they're a lot more collaborative now. I think you're also referring to job specific clearing like lifestyle poly that required for CS, but are still issued through DHS.133743Hokie wrote:???awesome guy wrote:There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote: No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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They confirmed the process had begun, and also needed CIA clearance. Let me ask it this way. If you were POTUS, and appointing your NSA, would you rely on a DIA clearance renewal, from Jan. 2016, as sufficient, even after having several people contact you with concerns about that person? He had 2 months from the time he picked him, to the start of his presidency. I think it's silly to try and lay blame on Obama.133743Hokie wrote:Apparently he needed NSA I believe. He had the others, and they were renewed recently under Obama. Typically these govt. positions allow the individual to begin work with an interim clearance while the process is taking place. I have no idea whether the process had begun or not for the one he needed.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.USN_Hokie wrote:
Your link (which describes itself as a "social justice-oriented media company dedicated to providing the bold, combative, thought-provoking journalism that the current regime opposes.") is bullshirt and doesn't support the argument you're making. It sounds like a bunch of people who have no idea how security clearances work jumping to conclusions.
The word granted is key there. Something like that would probably take a while - that doesn't mean that it wasn't started. Also, I'd like to see the exact requirements. I'd bet the clearance is only required for certain information.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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CIA, NSA and a few others still have their ownawesome guy wrote:You're operating under the old world. My DHS clearance was accepted by DoD as they're a lot more collaborative now. I think you're also referring to job specific clearing like lifestyle poly that required for CS, but are still issued through DHS.133743Hokie wrote:???awesome guy wrote:There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote:"Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.133743Hokie wrote:No, the clearance isn't just required for certain info, and it isn't a higher clearance.HokieFanDC wrote:
Umm...OK. You're agreeing that there is a higher clearance than what he already had from his previous job, which is what I said.
The IC is territorial. A DoD based clearance is good for military and State Dept. CIA has it's own clearance and vetting process as does NSA. They are all little silos that don't play well with each other in the sandbox and don't recognize each others clearances. The Director of National Security obviously needs to have all of the above, plus a few others. Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them.
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One Diggety at a time I suppose.awesome guy wrote:Keeping you safe!ip_law-hokie wrote:Didn't know you made your money off the government. Good stuff.awesome guy wrote:You're operating under the old world. My DHS clearance was accepted by DoD as they're a lot more collaborative now. I think you're also referring to job specific clearing like lifestyle poly that required for CS, but are still issued through DHS.133743Hokie wrote:???awesome guy wrote:There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.HokieFanDC wrote: "Apparently Flynn didn't have all of them." OK. That's the point... he needed other clearances that he didn't have. Trump was trying to paint a picture that the renewal of Flynn's DoD clearance was sufficient...and it isn't.
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Yep, one Diggety at a time.ip_law-hokie wrote:One Diggety at a time I suppose.awesome guy wrote:Keeping you safe!ip_law-hokie wrote:Didn't know you made your money off the government. Good stuff.awesome guy wrote:You're operating under the old world. My DHS clearance was accepted by DoD as they're a lot more collaborative now. I think you're also referring to job specific clearing like lifestyle poly that required for CS, but are still issued through DHS.133743Hokie wrote:???awesome guy wrote: There's only DoD and DHS which do respect each other's clearances.
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I'm shocked that the lawyer (albeit a patent attorney) has no problem with lying under oath.ip_law-hokie wrote:I'd take it over twitter diplomacy.USN_Hokie wrote:IP's idea of Presidential is getting blown by interns in the oval office and lying under oath.ip_law-hokie wrote:Rapid fire tweets. Hokie80 is our commander in chief. How presidential.RiverguyVT wrote:Gosh, CT has terrible office holders.
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Right, and neither did DC. That's why his comments were out of line.133743Hokie wrote:
Apparently he needed NSA I believe. He had the others, and they were renewed recently under Obama. Typically these govt. positions allow the individual to begin work with an interim clearance while the process is taking place. I have no idea whether the process had begun or not for the one he needed.
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No they said a CIA clearance hadn't been granted. You took this to mean they got him a lower clearance, which isn't supported by any links you've shown...and the links don't even imply that they hadn't been applied for.HokieFanDC wrote:
They confirmed the process had begun, and also needed CIA clearance. Let me ask it this way. If you were POTUS, and appointing your NSA, would you rely on a DIA clearance renewal, from Jan. 2016, as sufficient, even after having several people contact you with concerns about that person? He had 2 months from the time he picked him, to the start of his presidency. I think it's silly to try and lay blame on Obama.
My guess is that his position needs a multi agency sign off. Those can take a while, so no rational person would expect him to have them all at that time.
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Trump wasn't the point of my post.ip_law-hokie wrote:Rapid fire tweets. Hokie80 is our commander in chief. How presidential.RiverguyVT wrote:Gosh, CT has terrible office holders.
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Blumenthal, Murphy, DeLauro, et al.. CT has terrible office holders.
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You should like this one.RiverguyVT wrote:Gosh, CT has terrible office holders.
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From the guy who was so concerned about illegal wiretapping.
I expect the usual responses
"Winning!"
"Excellent trolling!"
"MAGA!"
"Emails!"
I expect the usual responses
"Winning!"
"Excellent trolling!"
"MAGA!"
"Emails!"
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LOL! Wow. Dude is totally a nut job. BUT... that sounds like a threat. Classic ambiguous trump. Is he saying he taped, or is he saying Comey better not have taped...?HooFighter wrote:From the guy who was so concerned about illegal wiretapping.
I expect the usual responses
"Winning!"
"Excellent trolling!"
"MAGA!"
"Emails!"
Admittedly, there's been a lot of shadenfreude on my part. I'm enjoying watching the left wing apparatchik being dismantled. Trump has exceeded expectations in that regard.
Eff Comey & the entrenched deep-state leftists.
It is going to be a fun 4 years.
So I put (the dead dog) on her doorstep!
Salute the Marines
Soon we'll have planes that fly 22000 mph
"#PedoPete" = Hunter's name for his dad.
Salute the Marines
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HokieFanDC wrote:You should like this one.RiverguyVT wrote:Gosh, CT has terrible office holders.
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Seriously..Blumenthal has to be a moron.
CT pols are in mafia/labor pockets.
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So you think having a "nut job" and potential criminal as president is OK as long as he sticks it to the libs?RiverguyVT wrote:LOL! Wow. Dude is totally a nut job. BUT... that sounds like a threat. Classic ambiguous trump. Is he saying he taped, or is he saying Comey better not have taped...?
Admittedly, there's been a lot of shadenfreude on my part. I'm enjoying watching the left wing apparatchik being dismantled. Trump has exceeded expectations in that regard.
Eff Comey & the entrenched deep-state leftists.
It is going to be a fun 4 years.
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No it's not, that's why we didn't elect Clinton.HooFighter wrote:So you think having a "nut job" and potential criminal as president is OK as long as he sticks it to the libs?RiverguyVT wrote:LOL! Wow. Dude is totally a nut job. BUT... that sounds like a threat. Classic ambiguous trump. Is he saying he taped, or is he saying Comey better not have taped...?
Admittedly, there's been a lot of shadenfreude on my part. I'm enjoying watching the left wing apparatchik being dismantled. Trump has exceeded expectations in that regard.
Eff Comey & the entrenched deep-state leftists.
It is going to be a fun 4 years.
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Oh, I'm no trump fan.HooFighter wrote:So you think having a "nut job" and potential criminal as president is OK as long as he sticks it to the libs?RiverguyVT wrote:LOL! Wow. Dude is totally a nut job. BUT... that sounds like a threat. Classic ambiguous trump. Is he saying he taped, or is he saying Comey better not have taped...?
Admittedly, there's been a lot of shadenfreude on my part. I'm enjoying watching the left wing apparatchik being dismantled. Trump has exceeded expectations in that regard.
Eff Comey & the entrenched deep-state leftists.
It is going to be a fun 4 years.
What is okay is that Damien-spawn Hillary! is not in office. Kiss the country goodbye if that had happened. With trump, we have a puncher's chance of survival. Dismantling the left apparatchik is absolutely essential to our future freedom. I'm zealous about that notion.
Anyone is a "potential" criminal. Hillary! is an "actual" one, and her ilk have no qualms about ruining this country. The Donald? Goofy as hell...but he doesn't hate America Zinn-style like the last guy who was in office 8 years... the guy who cherished civil unrest and had Che visions of "revolucion!"
The left has lost their collectivist minds.
So yeah. I'll accept the current nutjob. He has exceeded my low expectations.
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Because recording your own conversations is exactly the same thing.HooFighter wrote:From the guy who was so concerned about illegal wiretapping.
I expect the usual responses
"Winning!"
"Excellent trolling!"
"MAGA!"
"Emails!"
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Good point. Nothing could ever go wrong doing that.USN_Hokie wrote:Because recording your own conversations is exactly the same thing.HooFighter wrote:From the guy who was so concerned about illegal wiretapping.
I expect the usual responses
"Winning!"
"Excellent trolling!"
"MAGA!"
"Emails!"
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