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A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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USN_Hokie wrote:There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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You're doing the USN thing where you assign positions to people that they haven't taken.USN_Hokie wrote:There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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1. States "position" with question marks.nolanvt wrote:You're doing the USN thing where you assign positions to people that they haven't taken.USN_Hokie wrote:There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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2. Gets upset when people interpret those positions.
You're doing the nolan thing where you attempt to generate a squishy position that you can run away from ("lol...trolling guys!"), and then attempt to do so when presented with how dumb it is.
But please, tell me more about how not letting knocked up teenagers go to a graduation ceremony will increase abortions. I'm genuinely interested in your thesis.
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So you don't think this is practical, but you're not sure about no-whites-allowed graduation ceremonies? Okay.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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Nolan's bad day is just getting started. Bill Maher dropped an N-bomb on his show last night and now snowflakes are accumulating.UpstateSCHokie wrote:So you don't think this is practical, but you're not sure about no-whites-allowed graduation ceremonies? Okay.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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No position was stated. A question was asked because there are complex variables involved that could result in individuals having moral predicaments.USN_Hokie wrote:1. States "position" with question marks.nolanvt wrote:You're doing the USN thing where you assign positions to people that they haven't taken.USN_Hokie wrote:There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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2. Gets upset when people interpret those positions.
You're doing the nolan thing where you attempt to generate a squishy position that you can run away from ("lol...trolling guys!"), and then attempt to do so when presented with how dumb it is.
But please, tell me more about how not letting knocked up teenagers go to a graduation ceremony will increase abortions. I'm genuinely interested in your thesis.
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No position was stated by me.UpstateSCHokie wrote:So you don't think this is practical, but you're not sure about no-whites-allowed graduation ceremonies? Okay.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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Why would I be having a bad day because of something Bill Maher said?USN_Hokie wrote:Nolan's bad day is just getting started. Bill Maher dropped an N-bomb on his show last night and now snowflakes are accumulating.UpstateSCHokie wrote:So you don't think this is practical, but you're not sure about no-whites-allowed graduation ceremonies? Okay.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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Got it. You're the guy who comments on a political message board but never has an opinion on anything.nolanvt wrote:No position was stated. A question was asked because there are complex variables involved that could result in individuals having moral predicaments.USN_Hokie wrote:1. States "position" with question marks.nolanvt wrote:You're doing the USN thing where you assign positions to people that they haven't taken.USN_Hokie wrote:There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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2. Gets upset when people interpret those positions.
You're doing the nolan thing where you attempt to generate a squishy position that you can run away from ("lol...trolling guys!"), and then attempt to do so when presented with how dumb it is.
But please, tell me more about how not letting knocked up teenagers go to a graduation ceremony will increase abortions. I'm genuinely interested in your thesis.
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I have plenty of thoughts and positions. This particular case is complicated and don't think there's an easy solution without potentially facing unintended consequences down the road.USN_Hokie wrote:Got it. You're the guy who comments on a political message board but never has an opinion on anything.nolanvt wrote:No position was stated. A question was asked because there are complex variables involved that could result in individuals having moral predicaments.USN_Hokie wrote:1. States "position" with question marks.nolanvt wrote:You're doing the USN thing where you assign positions to people that they haven't taken.USN_Hokie wrote:There should be social pressure on schoolgirls to not get knocked up.
There used to be a time (a time when out of wedlock births were nil) when parents would not only pull their kids out of school, but send them off somewhere else to have the baby.
Today, pregnant teenagers get their own TV shows. It's gross.
I don't get your point - are you trying to say that women will murder their unborn children so they can go to a graduation ceremony?
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2. Gets upset when people interpret those positions.
You're doing the nolan thing where you attempt to generate a squishy position that you can run away from ("lol...trolling guys!"), and then attempt to do so when presented with how dumb it is.
But please, tell me more about how not letting knocked up teenagers go to a graduation ceremony will increase abortions. I'm genuinely interested in your thesis.
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Well should be easy for you since you are always "generally for" private companies/organizations doing as they please.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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I already stated that the private school has a legal right to do what they did.CFB Apologist wrote:Well should be easy for you since you are always "generally for" private companies/organizations doing as they please.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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Right. It's like a comedienne making an offensive photograph. It's perfectly legal for her to do what she did. Plenty of comics have her back, and many of them are upset she apologized for it. But as she's learned this week, it probably wasn't the prudent/expedient thing to do.nolanvt wrote:I already stated that the private school has a legal right to do what they did.CFB Apologist wrote:Well should be easy for you since you are always "generally for" private companies/organizations doing as they please.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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Bottom line is, you have to learn to pick your battles. You don't have to harp on EVERY LITTLE THING. Would it really have been a big deal to let this girl graduate? Probably not. She's only 5 months along. If she's showing anything, it's likely a tiny bump. They could have let it go and nobody would have been the wiser.
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Disagree 100%..when you compromise your integrity- you have nothing. In this case a christian school with clear and signed celibate agreements and let's a pregnant girl graduate? They are total frauds at that point. Not that I agree with them- but they MUST maintain their integrity. Would be the same scenario if West Point allowed someone to graduate that "Lied cheated or stole or tolerated others that do".. If it was a "small lie", and nobody would have known, etc. NOPE.. they would never do that and compromise their code.Hokie CPA wrote:Right. It's like a comedienne making an offensive photograph. It's perfectly legal for her to do what she did. Plenty of comics have her back, and many of them are upset she apologized for it. But as she's learned this week, it probably wasn't the prudent/expedient thing to do.nolanvt wrote:I already stated that the private school has a legal right to do what they did.CFB Apologist wrote:Well should be easy for you since you are always "generally for" private companies/organizations doing as they please.nolanvt wrote:A lot of things to think about here. While they're legally allowed to do this since it's a private Christian school, I wonder if this type of treatment is practical? For example, seeing how this girl was treated, will that encourage other girls at Christian schools to go against their faith and get secret abortions?
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Bottom line is, you have to learn to pick your battles. You don't have to harp on EVERY LITTLE THING. Would it really have been a big deal to let this girl graduate? Probably not. She's only 5 months along. If she's showing anything, it's likely a tiny bump. They could have let it go and nobody would have been the wiser.
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Amen. This. They are called standards for a reason.CFB Apologist wrote: Disagree 100%..when you compromise your integrity- you have nothing. In this case a christian school with clear and signed celibate agreements and let's a pregnant girl graduate? They are total frauds at that point. Not that I agree with them- but they MUST maintain their integrity. Would be the same scenario if West Point allowed someone to graduate that "Lied cheated or stole or tolerated others that do".. If it was a "small lie", and nobody would have known, etc. NOPE.. they would never do that and compromise their code.
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I can see that. Obviously the school feels this is a battle worth fighting. That's their prerogative. That being the case, the student should've known better than to violate her chastity vow without taking proper precautions.USN_Hokie wrote:Amen. This. They are called standards for a reason.CFB Apologist wrote: Disagree 100%..when you compromise your integrity- you have nothing. In this case a christian school with clear and signed celibate agreements and let's a pregnant girl graduate? They are total frauds at that point. Not that I agree with them- but they MUST maintain their integrity. Would be the same scenario if West Point allowed someone to graduate that "Lied cheated or stole or tolerated others that do".. If it was a "small lie", and nobody would have known, etc. NOPE.. they would never do that and compromise their code.
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Well it is not a "battle"- in this case that would be THE battle and a HUGE issue- thus my military academy lying example- its not a nit pick, it is a huge deal.Hokie CPA wrote:I can see that. Obviously the school feels this is a battle worth fighting. That's their prerogative. That being the case, the student should've known better than to violate her chastity vow without taking proper precautions.USN_Hokie wrote:Amen. This. They are called standards for a reason.CFB Apologist wrote: Disagree 100%..when you compromise your integrity- you have nothing. In this case a christian school with clear and signed celibate agreements and let's a pregnant girl graduate? They are total frauds at that point. Not that I agree with them- but they MUST maintain their integrity. Would be the same scenario if West Point allowed someone to graduate that "Lied cheated or stole or tolerated others that do".. If it was a "small lie", and nobody would have known, etc. NOPE.. they would never do that and compromise their code.
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It's the pickle standards put you in. Let them slide, even if pragmatic and reasonable, then they're squishy and hypocritical. Don't have standards and anything goes. People stink.Hokie CPA wrote:I can see that. Obviously the school feels this is a battle worth fighting. That's their prerogative. That being the case, the student should've known better than to violate her chastity vow without taking proper precautions.USN_Hokie wrote:Amen. This. They are called standards for a reason.CFB Apologist wrote: Disagree 100%..when you compromise your integrity- you have nothing. In this case a christian school with clear and signed celibate agreements and let's a pregnant girl graduate? They are total frauds at that point. Not that I agree with them- but they MUST maintain their integrity. Would be the same scenario if West Point allowed someone to graduate that "Lied cheated or stole or tolerated others that do".. If it was a "small lie", and nobody would have known, etc. NOPE.. they would never do that and compromise their code.
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Yep. My favorite scene in Master and Commander is the one where the junior officer tells a sailor he will be lashed for doing something (don't remember what). The CO tells him that's not an appropriate punishment in private, but enforces the flogging publicly.awesome guy wrote:It's the pickle standards put you in. Let them slide, even if pragmatic and reasonable, then they're squishy and hypocritical. Don't have standards and anything goes. People stink.Hokie CPA wrote:I can see that. Obviously the school feels this is a battle worth fighting. That's their prerogative. That being the case, the student should've known better than to violate her chastity vow without taking proper precautions.USN_Hokie wrote:Amen. This. They are called standards for a reason.CFB Apologist wrote: Disagree 100%..when you compromise your integrity- you have nothing. In this case a christian school with clear and signed celibate agreements and let's a pregnant girl graduate? They are total frauds at that point. Not that I agree with them- but they MUST maintain their integrity. Would be the same scenario if West Point allowed someone to graduate that "Lied cheated or stole or tolerated others that do".. If it was a "small lie", and nobody would have known, etc. NOPE.. they would never do that and compromise their code.
He had to do it or the sailors wouldn't respect their leadership. The same rule is at play here - if you ignore them once they will fall apart.
Another analogy might be HOA rules......
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OK after reading the article this is my take:
Daddy couldn't sway the board and I have to follow the rules.
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