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CA: housing cost for a prisoner exceeds tuition at Harvard

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-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
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USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.
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I don't think cost for justice should be as big an issue as many. If we have a guy awaiting appeals, I say God bless, and let it roll.
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VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.
Nope. There is one employee for every 2 inmates. That's a much better ratio than you get at a child care center. Keeping prisoners safe and fed is more important than keeping our children safe and fed. 6 week old babies have a ratio of 4:1. 10 year olds in daycare have a 14:1 ratio. Prisoners - 2:1.

Just saying.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.
Nope. There is one employee for every 2 inmates. That's a much better ratio than you get at a child care center. Keeping prisoners safe and fed is more important than keeping our children safe and fed. 6 week old babies have a ratio of 4:1. 10 year olds in daycare have a 14:1 ratio. Prisoners - 2:1.

Just saying.
Is that gross number of inmates / gross number of prison guards? If so, you need to roughly multiply by 3 (assuming 8hr shifts) if we're making an apples to apples comparison..
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.
Nope. There is one employee for every 2 inmates. That's a much better ratio than you get at a child care center. Keeping prisoners safe and fed is more important than keeping our children safe and fed. 6 week old babies have a ratio of 4:1. 10 year olds in daycare have a 14:1 ratio. Prisoners - 2:1.

Just saying.
Is that gross number of inmates / gross number of prison guards? If so, you need to roughly multiply by 3 (assuming 8hr shifts) if we're making an apples to apples comparison..
I'm taking it from the LA Times article, and they term it as corrections department employees, so more than just guards.
If you were to really do a comparison, you'd have to do something like number of corrections dept. man-hours for each hour of prison time, to daycare man-hours for each hour of daycare provided.

I'm guessing it's still pretty hideous.
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California is Brazil, with a higher tax base that makes things like drinking water safe and roads paved. If not for the silicon valley tax base, that state would look just like the socialist hell holes in South America. Latino gangs make up 40% of the prison population in Brazil, Nicaragua, and yes California, USA. Enjoy
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VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.
Haha, they're a racket with the guards pulling in over 100k and up to 250k. CA is corrupt.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.
Nope. There is one employee for every 2 inmates. That's a much better ratio than you get at a child care center. Keeping prisoners safe and fed is more important than keeping our children safe and fed. 6 week old babies have a ratio of 4:1. 10 year olds in daycare have a 14:1 ratio. Prisoners - 2:1.

Just saying.
Is that gross number of inmates / gross number of prison guards? If so, you need to roughly multiply by 3 (assuming 8hr shifts) if we're making an apples to apples comparison..
I'm taking it from the LA Times article, and they term it as corrections department employees, so more than just guards.
If you were to really do a comparison, you'd have to do something like number of corrections dept. man-hours for each hour of prison time, to daycare man-hours for each hour of daycare provided.

I'm guessing it's still pretty hideous.
Agree with your overall point, just point out that it might not be exactly apples:apples.
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VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:-$75k/yr
-$11.4 Billion total on proposed budget
-Cost has doubled since 2005 even though the population has been reduced 25%

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
"Salaries and benefits for prison guards and medical providers drove much of the increase." I'm okay with paying the employees well, given the hazards & difficulties of the job.

do i care if a criminal is comfortable in prison...no. It is nuts that the costs are that high but then again we accept a guy can be arrested 50 times and somehow will become a great citizen when he gets out again
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