Congress taking a stand against Russia

[ip_law-hokie]

Sure hope IP doesn't have a job where interpreting text is important.

You guys are full of excrement.

discussion is hard

Not hard, just a waste of time.


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[USN_Hokie]

Sure hope IP doesn't have a job where interpreting text is important.

You guys are full of excrement.

Hopefully communicating isn't important either.

[PolyTech]

Sure hope IP doesn't have a job where interpreting text is important.

You guys are full of excrement.

I suppose you were until you "took at trip to Brownsville"?

[ip_law-hokie]

Sure hope IP doesn't have a job where interpreting text is important.

You guys are full of excrement.

I suppose you were until you "took at trip to Brownsville"?

If taking your lady to Brownsville is wrong, I don't want to be right.


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[HokieJoe]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

[133743Hokie]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

How exactly is it different, the Russians did what to spread chaos? please explain. They wrote Hillary's emails or put an illegal server in her basement?[/quote]
Their actions resulted in what we have been addressing for the past 6 months -- division and attacks re who/what/when/where/why the Russians meddled.

[Vienna_Hokie]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.

[USN_Hokie]

Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

It's all meddling in the foreign policy of the country question. The only thing that's really different is the method.

[HokieJoe]

[quote="Vienna_Hokie"][quote="HokieJoe"][quote="HokieFanDC"]


In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.[/quote]


So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?[/quote]

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.[/quote]



I can 100% guarantee you that if Clinton had won, there would be NO [i]Russian election crisis[/i]. All would be right with the world.

[133743Hokie]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.

I can 100% guarantee you that if Clinton had won, there would be NO Russian election crisis. All would be right with the world.

Correct. This is part of the planned diversion to keep the Trump admin in defensive mode and off balance, unable to proceed with his agenda.

[Vienna_Hokie]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.[/quote}

I can 100% guarantee you that if Clinton had won, there would be NO Russian election crisis. All would be right with the world.

And "THE Goal" for all that do it is the same. To get a government or policies in place that are in what the meddling government believes are in it's best interests. Period. Nothing else. Choas may be in our best interest. It is in Russia and China's best interest because it takes focus off the things they are doing around the world that we otherwise would be involved in. If Putin was involved in this, he has been more successful than he could have imagined because the dems have played this far better for him than he could have ever hoped.

[ip_law-hokie]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.

I can 100% guarantee you that if Clinton had won, there would be NO Russian election crisis. All would be right with the world.

Correct. This is part of the planned diversion to keep the Trump admin in defensive mode and off balance, unable to proceed with his agenda.

To be fair, it appears to be working. For example, where is this big infrastructure bill? This should be something that Trump could push through with bipartisan support. What is the holdup?

[133743Hokie]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.

I can 100% guarantee you that if Clinton had won, there would be NO Russian election crisis. All would be right with the world.

Correct. This is part of the planned diversion to keep the Trump admin in defensive mode and off balance, unable to proceed with his agenda.

To be fair, it appears to be working. For example, where is this big infrastructure bill? This should be something that Trump could push through with bipartisan support. What is the holdup?

All time and capital being spent addressing the Russian nothing burger. This is what the dems want.

[USN_Hokie]

To be fair, it appears to be working. For example, where is this big infrastructure bill? This should be something that Trump could push through with bipartisan support. What is the holdup?

Well, Republican congressmen are being shot in the streets by democrats, for one. Several bill hearings we postponed today. But yeah, other than that...

[ip_law-hokie]

To be fair, it appears to be working. For example, where is this big infrastructure bill? This should be something that Trump could push through with bipartisan support. What is the holdup?

Well, Republican congressmen are being shot in the streets by democrats, for one. Several bill hearings we postponed today. But yeah, other than that...

That's disingenuous. Shame on you.


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[133743Hokie]

To be fair, it appears to be working. For example, where is this big infrastructure bill? This should be something that Trump could push through with bipartisan support. What is the holdup?

Well, Republican congressmen are being shot in the streets by democrats, for one. Several bill hearings we postponed today. But yeah, other than that...

That's disingenuous. Shame on you.


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Of course you'd never use an outside event to make your point!

[HokieJoe]

In the larger picture, I'm not sure it matters. Their goal is different than when the US meddles in elections. The US is generally pretty open about supporting a certain candidate and working to get them elected. Russia isn't doing that, they are trying to spread chaos. Everyone should be concerned and want to do what we can to understand how they are doing it, and to stop it.

So it's all about good intentions then? What if U.S. support results in chaos? Does that count?

You mean like meddling in the government of Libya? Or Syria? Or Egypt? Yep, no chaos there.

We meddle in the governments and pick favorites all over the world every day. We use money, military power, CIA stuff, etc. The Chinese, the Russians, every major power in the world does it and always has.

I can 100% guarantee you that if Clinton had won, there would be NO Russian election crisis. All would be right with the world.

Correct. This is part of the planned diversion to keep the Trump admin in defensive mode and off balance, unable to proceed with his agenda.

To be fair, it appears to be working. For example, where is this big infrastructure bill? This should be something that Trump could push through with bipartisan support. What is the holdup?

Of course it's working. Which BTW, drives home my point about the Russians. The left could give a good GD what the Russians do, as evidenced by their incompetent handling of Ukraine and Syria when Odumbo was in office.

Now, Russia is politically convenient, so they feign shock and patriotic outrage, and we get Washington Kabuki theatre. Meanwhile, all the problems we had before remain. They don't care as long as the status quo is maintained.