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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:15 pm 
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You should save the words and just tell Cap'n Bullshit to kiss your ass.


"When debate is lost, slander* becomes the tool of the loser"

When you tell a blind man the sky is blue, he doesn't call you a liar because he can't see it. The difference between you and the blind man is that the blind man knows he's blind.

*Jokes are always acceptable, however. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:17 pm 
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What rhetoric do I support that I know is false?


All of it, aside from your admission that Trump's staff isn't currently involved with the Russians. You've bought in completely to the media narrative driving this madness, the Mueller witch hunt, etc.


I haven't. That's your deluded belief. You proved it with your 5 point list of idiocy in a previous thread about Russia. You probably still believe that pile of crap you wrote.
The only thing that's changed from that is that Trump is now technically under investigation. And to be clear, I think the OoJ claims are silly. I'm sure in 45 minutes, you'll think that I have bought in to the OoJ charges and am praying for Trump's impeachment.


of course he is, the russian collusion thing is a dead end so they move on to the next thing, but Comey has already wiped that charge out with his testimony so this is just a big ol waste of tax dollars now, congrats


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Your "ideal" candidate is representative of every republican who has lost in my lifetime. We tried it your way for decades.

We're at the point where not increasing an already bloated budget was sold to the people as Republicans want to kill people. We're beyond the point of gentlemanly politics. Washington is a china shop of sacred cows and entitlements. Donald Trump is the bull we need to run through and break it all.

Anything less is just the status quo glacial move to the left and you can explain to your grandkids how you don't understand how they became tax slaves with all their rights traded for entitlements.

I'd rather Hillary won instead of that idiot rino Jeb.

What in the world are you talking about? My ideal candidate didn't run for President, so I voted Trump. My voting for him, and my liking most of what he's done so far (very much, actually), have nothing to do with my guess/assessment that he's probably done stuff to women that I wouldn't approve of. Is it really an "all in" vs "all out" binary to you?

As for Hillary! vs Jeb, I'd have been behind Jeb. Hillary is essentially the spawn of Satan in my book.


your stance on him and women makes no sense, has he had opportunities with lots of chicks, for sure. Rich, check, Celebrity, check, but you know as well as I do that if the female participant was not willingly going with the actions he would have lawsuits, settlements, charges these days. Has he cheated on his wives, my guess is yes but non-consenting activities, not possible these days


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I have said things in private that I wouldn't say in public. I've never said that I've grabbed a woman by the pussy, or that I just go up and kiss a woman, because I would never do that, and it's wrong.


You've never touched a vagina? Does your wife give you affirmative consent before you kiss her? What kind of paperwork is involved?

That sounds like a terrible life to live. Condolences.


Trump didn't say that he goes up to his wife and kisses her without permission - he goes up to random groupies and kisses them.

There is surely a difference in how you behave around someone with whom you are in a relationship vs how you behave with random women.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
You should save the words and just tell Cap'n Bullshit to kiss your ass.


"When debate is lost, slander* becomes the tool of the loser"

When you tell a blind man the sky is blue, he doesn't call you a liar because he can't see it. The difference between you and the blind man is that the blind man knows he's blind.

*Jokes are always acceptable, however. :)


Got it.

*Kiss my ass.

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BigDave wrote:
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HokieFanDC wrote:

I have said things in private that I wouldn't say in public. I've never said that I've grabbed a woman by the pussy, or that I just go up and kiss a woman, because I would never do that, and it's wrong.


You've never touched a vagina? Does your wife give you affirmative consent before you kiss her? What kind of paperwork is involved?

That sounds like a terrible life to live. Condolences.


Trump didn't say that he goes up to his wife and kisses her without permission - he goes up to random groupies and kisses them.

There is surely a difference in how you behave around someone with whom you are in a relationship vs how you behave with random women.

I'm sure he was BSing. Crazy how y'all are taking that as a sworn deposition.

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What rhetoric do I support that I know is false?


All of it, aside from your admission that Trump's staff isn't currently involved with the Russians. You've bought in completely to the media narrative driving this madness, the Mueller witch hunt, etc.


I haven't. That's your deluded belief. You proved it with your 5 point list of idiocy in a previous thread about Russia. You probably still believe that pile of crap you wrote.
The only thing that's changed from that is that Trump is now technically under investigation. And to be clear, I think the OoJ claims are silly. I'm sure in 45 minutes, you'll think that I have bought in to the OoJ charges and am praying for Trump's impeachment.

It's all true, an artifact from you playing the "only honest guy" shtick of taking a little from here and a little from there to create an "in the middle" narrative that ends up being just as much of a lie as the dishonest liberal aspect you folded into the new, truther story. There's no way to avoid making a shitcake when you're always using excrement(though just half!) to make it.


That's a giant pile of nonsense. Takng the stance that the FBI investigation of Russia is reasonable on the sole premise that the FBI doesn't like to waste their time, while also thinking that the left's obsession with trying to make that all about Trump is ridiculous, is not schtick.

And USN making up things that are simply false is not an artifact of anything. It's just bizarre.


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BigDave wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:

I have said things in private that I wouldn't say in public. I've never said that I've grabbed a woman by the pussy, or that I just go up and kiss a woman, because I would never do that, and it's wrong.


You've never touched a vagina? Does your wife give you affirmative consent before you kiss her? What kind of paperwork is involved?

That sounds like a terrible life to live. Condolences.


Trump didn't say that he goes up to his wife and kisses her without permission - he goes up to random groupies and kisses them.

There is surely a difference in how you behave around someone with whom you are in a relationship vs how you behave with random women.

I'm sure he was BSing. Crazy how y'all are taking that as a sworn deposition.

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some of it was BS but there are plenty of females that throw themselves at rich folks, but they are willing and happy, these guys are acting like none of it was consensual, cray cray


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HokieFanDC wrote:
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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
What rhetoric do I support that I know is false?


All of it, aside from your admission that Trump's staff isn't currently involved with the Russians. You've bought in completely to the media narrative driving this madness, the Mueller witch hunt, etc.


I haven't. That's your deluded belief. You proved it with your 5 point list of idiocy in a previous thread about Russia. You probably still believe that pile of crap you wrote.
The only thing that's changed from that is that Trump is now technically under investigation. And to be clear, I think the OoJ claims are silly. I'm sure in 45 minutes, you'll think that I have bought in to the OoJ charges and am praying for Trump's impeachment.

It's all true, an artifact from you playing the "only honest guy" shtick of taking a little from here and a little from there to create an "in the middle" narrative that ends up being just as much of a lie as the dishonest liberal aspect you folded into the new, truther story. There's no way to avoid making a shitcake when you're always using excrement(though just half!) to make it.


That's a giant pile of nonsense. Takng the stance that the FBI investigation of Russia is reasonable on the sole premise that the FBI doesn't like to waste their time, while also thinking that the left's obsession with trying to make that all about Trump is ridiculous, is not schtick.

And USN making up things that are simply false is not an artifact of anything. It's just bizarre.

Nope, it's the bed you've made, in the middle and all.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
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Your "ideal" candidate is representative of every republican who has lost in my lifetime. We tried it your way for decades.

We're at the point where not increasing an already bloated budget was sold to the people as Republicans want to kill people. We're beyond the point of gentlemanly politics. Washington is a china shop of sacred cows and entitlements. Donald Trump is the bull we need to run through and break it all.

Anything less is just the status quo glacial move to the left and you can explain to your grandkids how you don't understand how they became tax slaves with all their rights traded for entitlements.

I'd rather Hillary won instead of that idiot rino Jeb.

What in the world are you talking about? My ideal candidate didn't run for President, so I voted Trump. My voting for him, and my liking most of what he's done so far (very much, actually), have nothing to do with my guess/assessment that he's probably done stuff to women that I wouldn't approve of. Is it really an "all in" vs "all out" binary to you?

As for Hillary! vs Jeb, I'd have been behind Jeb. Hillary is essentially the spawn of Satan in my book.


Why did you take Dave's position if you don't agree with it? I thought you were outing yourself as a nevertrumper.


I just explained that. Liking Trump more than I do Hillary!, and thinking the swamp needs draining, have nothing to do with my guess that Trump has likely engaged in some "unwanted touching".


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Trump bragged about violence against women?


Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Bush: Whatever you want.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.


But I'm sure what he really meant was that he visits with their pet cat in order to show them that he's an animal lover.

And that is violence, how? To me that is arrogance, albeit likely fact based. Women are attracted to power and money and he was stating the obvious that they let him do what he wants.


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How did this state ever end up with Bill's bag man for China money, as governor?

NOVA carpetbaggers and Richmond minorities, the former flaming liberals and the later dependent on the dems for handouts.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:37 pm 
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actually your statement is totally false, but you know that. He never said anything about raping anyone, he was boasting about his prowess with ladies due to his celebrity, kind of like in high school when your buddy was bragging about all the tang he was getting when in reality his right hand was his only partner. I know I know, you have never spoken crudely with your buddies, you are special


"I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait."

That is assault - "I don't even wait". He doesn't see if they are interested in kissing him. He doesn't introduce himself. He just kisses them. That is not remotely the same thing as the football star getting laid every night by WILLING women.

And do they say "no"? I didn't think so.


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We ended up with this fool because va republicans are an incompetent lot. They put up horrible candidates that lose to horrible democratic candidates. This is still a conservative state. But the republicans consistently lose... Because they run horrible candidates. It's the curse of the macaca.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:47 pm 
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RiverguyVT wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
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Your "ideal" candidate is representative of every republican who has lost in my lifetime. We tried it your way for decades.

We're at the point where not increasing an already bloated budget was sold to the people as Republicans want to kill people. We're beyond the point of gentlemanly politics. Washington is a china shop of sacred cows and entitlements. Donald Trump is the bull we need to run through and break it all.

Anything less is just the status quo glacial move to the left and you can explain to your grandkids how you don't understand how they became tax slaves with all their rights traded for entitlements.

I'd rather Hillary won instead of that idiot rino Jeb.

What in the world are you talking about? My ideal candidate didn't run for President, so I voted Trump. My voting for him, and my liking most of what he's done so far (very much, actually), have nothing to do with my guess/assessment that he's probably done stuff to women that I wouldn't approve of. Is it really an "all in" vs "all out" binary to you?

As for Hillary! vs Jeb, I'd have been behind Jeb. Hillary is essentially the spawn of Satan in my book.


Why did you take Dave's position if you don't agree with it? I thought you were outing yourself as a nevertrumper.


I just explained that. Liking Trump more than I do Hillary!, and thinking the swamp needs draining, have nothing to do with my guess that Trump has likely engaged in some "unwanted touching".


OK your response was completely non sequitur then. I'm confused.

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We ended up with this fool because va republicans are an incompetent lot. They put up horrible candidates that lose to horrible democratic candidates. This is still a conservative state. But the republicans consistently lose... Because they run horrible candidates. It's the curse of the macaca.


False. Cuccinelli was a fine candidate (with quite a libertarian streak by the way).

Democrats in VA have just become experts at character assassination.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
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We ended up with this fool because va republicans are an incompetent lot. They put up horrible candidates that lose to horrible democratic candidates. This is still a conservative state. But the republicans consistently lose... Because they run horrible candidates. It's the curse of the macaca.


False. Cuccinelli was a fine candidate (with quite a libertarian streak by the way).

Democrats in VA have just become experts at character assassination.


Virginia has a pretty amazing history of electing men of high moral character throughout its history, which is why the last 3 out of 4 are such a travesty. They went from Thomas Jefferson & Patrick Henry to Tim Kaine? Good Lord, if that's not a symbol of how far we've fallen, I don't know what is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_G ... f_Virginia

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