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Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:19 pm
by USN_Hokie
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Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:26 pm
by oaktonhokie
i have said before, the probably the only thing obama did that i agree with, is normalizing relations with cuba. Should have been done decades ago.

But typically, obama made a bo bergdhal like deal giving the cuban government and cuban military lots of money and the cuban people virtually nothing. And cuba keeps american terrorists.

Obama's deal was terrible for everyone except the communist regime.

But trump is not interfering with the government of a sovereign nation. I support trump's move here but it is just a bit troubling that we have relations with other scummy countries, and take a harder line with cuba.


USN_Hokie wrote:
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Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:34 pm
by HokieHam
Oops!

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:35 pm
by awesome guy
Nice

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:37 pm
by RiverguyVT
oaktonhokie wrote:i have said before, the probably the only thing obama did that i agree with, is normalizing relations with cuba. Should have been done decades ago.

But typically, obama made a bo bergdhal like deal giving the cuban government and cuban military lots of money and the cuban people virtually nothing. And cuba keeps american terrorists.

Obama's deal was terrible for everyone except the communist regime.

But trump is not interfering with the government of a sovereign nation. I support trump's move here but it is just a bit troubling that we have relations with other scummy countries, and take a harder line with cuba.


USN_Hokie wrote:
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Eff em

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:40 pm
by cwtcr hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
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I love that he keeps moving, the dems are freaking out, wait for the explosion on the msm tonight about the end of the world for changing the cuba policy

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:04 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
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Good stuff - we can go back to the same policy that kept the Castros in power for how many years?

Oak is right - why do we take such a hard line with Cuba in particular? I think we all know to the answer to that: pandering for hard-line Cuban votes in Florida.


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Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:06 am
by VisorBoy
Trump's decision reduces American freedoms. It's harder now to travel there for tourism.

A bad decision for conservative values.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/presiden ... olicy.html

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:47 am
by USN_Hokie
VisorBoy wrote:Trump's decision reduces American freedoms. It's harder now to travel there for tourism.

A bad decision for conservative values.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/presiden ... olicy.html
Sanctions have nothing to do with conservatism or lack thereof. This is the same silly argument which was trotted out and laughed at during the campaign.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:50 am
by VisorBoy
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:Trump's decision reduces American freedoms. It's harder now to travel there for tourism.

A bad decision for conservative values.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/presiden ... olicy.html
Sanctions have nothing to do with conservatism or lack thereof. This is the same silly argument which was trotted out and laughed at during the campaign.
Freedom has to do with conservative values.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:17 am
by Major Kong
Dammit the Oriole's are in severe need of good pitching...now where will they turn too :?:

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:18 am
by awesome guy
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:Trump's decision reduces American freedoms. It's harder now to travel there for tourism.

A bad decision for conservative values.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/presiden ... olicy.html
Sanctions have nothing to do with conservatism or lack thereof. This is the same silly argument which was trotted out and laughed at during the campaign.
Freedom has to do with conservative values.
Unless it's economic freedom...

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:33 am
by Hokie CPA
This move is disappointing. It's just stupid we haven't normalized relations fully with Cuba.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:36 am
by USN_Hokie
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:Trump's decision reduces American freedoms. It's harder now to travel there for tourism.

A bad decision for conservative values.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/presiden ... olicy.html
Sanctions have nothing to do with conservatism or lack thereof. This is the same silly argument which was trotted out and laughed at during the campaign.
Freedom has to do with conservative values.
You have a right to renounce your citizenship if you want to move to a communist shirt hole. Isn't freedom great?

Here, I'll help you out:

https://www.amazon.com/Renounce-Your-U- ... 999532895X

Thank me later. Bring plenty of refills for any prescriptions you might have.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:41 am
by USN_Hokie
Hokie CPA wrote:This move is disappointing. It's just stupid we haven't normalized relations fully with Cuba.
Cuba is an oppressive communist dictatorship...funded in large part by skimming off money sent in from overseas and tourism. We gain nothing from normalizing relations with them.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:44 am
by Hokie CPA
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie CPA wrote:This move is disappointing. It's just stupid we haven't normalized relations fully with Cuba.
Cuba is an oppressive communist dictatorship...
So is China.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:09 am
by 133743Hokie
Major Kong wrote:Dammit the Oriole's are in severe need of good pitching...now where will they turn too :?:
Dominican Republic?

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:11 am
by 133743Hokie
VisorBoy wrote:Trump's decision reduces American freedoms. It's harder now to travel there for tourism.

A bad decision for conservative values.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/presiden ... olicy.html
Cubans did not like the Americans pushing tourism in the country. It has grossly skewed their economy.

Hotel maids make more than doctors. The tourism dollar has messed up their economy. The US wants to transform it over the next 5 years, Cubans want to take a generation to let it morph on its on time schedule.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:34 am
by USN_Hokie
Hokie CPA wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie CPA wrote:This move is disappointing. It's just stupid we haven't normalized relations fully with Cuba.
Cuba is an oppressive communist dictatorship...
So is China.
Not remotely comparable.

Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:07 am
by ip_law-hokie
Major Kong wrote:Dammit the Oriole's are in severe need of good pitching...now where will they turn too :?:
You can still sign yoenis Unless he gets hurt on his way to the golf course.


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Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:08 am
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie CPA wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie CPA wrote:This move is disappointing. It's just stupid we haven't normalized relations fully with Cuba.
Cuba is an oppressive communist dictatorship...
So is China.
Not remotely comparable.
Correct. China is a legitimate threat.


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Re: Trump just flushed Obummer's Cuba policy down the toilet

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:12 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie CPA wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Hokie CPA wrote:This move is disappointing. It's just stupid we haven't normalized relations fully with Cuba.
Cuba is an oppressive communist dictatorship...
So is China.
Not remotely comparable.
Correct. China is a legitimate threat.


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Threat to whom? Us? So are plenty of countries we have better relations with.

Your comment doesn't make any sense, but I'm glad that you have come around to taking a hard line on China with President Trump.