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How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
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Lack of personal responsibility is a hallmark of democrats whether we're talking about economics, legislation, or losing states in an election that you never visited.
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Just as stupid as Pizzagate which the msm ignored


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UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
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VisorBoy wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
There's no investigation of Trump and no evidence that he or anyone in his administration are under investigation. Hope you're not expecting much more information on the DNC leak/hack since the DNC wasn't/isn't apparently willing to share anything with the government.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

============================================================
Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
There's no investigation of Trump and no evidence that he or anyone in his administration are under investigation. Hope you're not expecting much more information on the DNC leak/hack since the DNC wasn't/isn't apparently willing to share anything with the government.
We're parsing words a bit. There is a probe underway looking at the connection between Trump admin, the election, and Russia.
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VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
There's no investigation of Trump and no evidence that he or anyone in his administration are under investigation. Hope you're not expecting much more information on the DNC leak/hack since the DNC wasn't/isn't apparently willing to share anything with the government.
We're parsing words a bit. There is a probe underway looking at the connection between Trump admin, the election, and Russia.
You're parsing words. It's a Russia investigation first and foremost, which would include any contacts they had with US citizens (that would include Trump campaign folks....or Hillary campaign folks). It is not an investigation of the Trump administration per Rosenstein's letter.
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VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
There's no investigation of Trump and no evidence that he or anyone in his administration are under investigation. Hope you're not expecting much more information on the DNC leak/hack since the DNC wasn't/isn't apparently willing to share anything with the government.
We're parsing words a bit. There is a probe underway looking at the connection between Trump admin, the election, and Russia.
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VisorBoy, what secret power do you think Trump has?

To think that a guy as technically unsophisticated as him could pull off a coup with Wikileaks, phishing emails to Podesta,the mail server in Hillary's bathroom, etc, is beyond insane.

Take the tinfoil off. He's a rich old man who indulges on KFC. There is no way he has anything to do with any of this.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
There's no investigation of Trump and no evidence that he or anyone in his administration are under investigation. Hope you're not expecting much more information on the DNC leak/hack since the DNC wasn't/isn't apparently willing to share anything with the government.
We're parsing words a bit. There is a probe underway looking at the connection between Trump admin, the election, and Russia.
You're parsing words. It's a Russia investigation first and foremost, which would include any contacts they had with US citizens (that would include Trump campaign folks....or Hillary campaign folks). It is not an investigation of the Trump administration per Rosenstein's letter.
It includes a look into Trump's role in firing Comey.
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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:VisorBoy, what secret power do you think Trump has?

To think that a guy as technically unsophisticated as him could pull off a coup with Wikileaks, phishing emails to Podesta,the mail server in Hillary's bathroom, etc, is beyond insane.

Take the tinfoil off. He's a rich old man who indulges on KFC. There is no way he has anything to do with any of this.
Where did I say I think Trump spearheaded Wikileaks' work?
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VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
VisorBoy wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:How did this crazy tin foil hat conspiracy theory become a "mainstream" media news story? I mean its no different then running with big foot as the lead story for 11 straight months. No evidence, and yet the media was somehow able to keep talking about it. We have no idea who the "anonymous sources" are or if they even really exist. It wall all just made up BS from Obama fan bois and Obama left overs in the deep state / media (same thing).

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Good riddance to the Russia myth — and blame Team Obama for promoting it
By Post Editorial Board
June 21, 2017

Ex-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson’s testimony Wednesday should mark the definitive end of “Russia hacked the election” hysteria. Too bad it took so long to get to this point.

Johnson told the House Intelligence Committee outright that the Russians failed to alter “ballots, ballot counts or reporting of election results.”

Yes, it’s clear Russia (with Vladimir Putin’s full approval) orchestrated cyberattacks designed to influence the 2016 contest, and also pushed fake news.

But the hack, and release via WikiLeaks, etc., of Democratic emails produced nothing game-changing. The biggest impact was to confirm the obvious: The Democratic National Committee favored Hillary Clinton from the start.

And fake news mainly feeds people’s existing prejudices — which serves Putin’s goal of undermining our democracy, but fails to flip votes from one party to the other.

Johnson also made it plain that Democrats didn’t take the problem too seriously: “The FBI and the DNC had been in contact with each other months before about the intrusion, and the DNC did not feel it needed DHS’s assistance at that time.”

Johnson also explained why the Obama administration kept quiet on the threat. The White House, he recalled, argued that a public admission of possible Russian interference might be seen as an effort to influence the election — particularly since Donald Trump was warning “the election was going to be rigged.”

That is: Because Obama was fervently campaigning for Clinton, the White House figured that raising alarms about Russian interference would seem mere electioneering.

Was it more worried that this would undermine faith in the election, or just that it would help Trump? Note that Team Obama vetoed then-FBI Director James Comey’s plan to publish a late-summer op-ed warning of Russia’s efforts to interfere — which would’ve been the least political-seeming way to get the message out.

Also that when Team Obama finally did go public on the threat, it was after that “Access Hollywood” tape seemed to spell disaster for Trump.

And that the administration didn’t take action until after Election Day, when it slapped Moscow with new sanctions — putting the question of Russian interference on Page One only after Trump had won.

It’s good that the hysteria has finally died down, but too bad Team Obama’s handling of it all helped produce so much misdirected hysteria in the first place.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/good-ridda ... moting-it/
The Russia investigation is not limited to ballot-stuffing. I agree that the Russians didn't commit fraud with America's actual voting.

The investigation centers on: collusion with Trump & his team as well as why/how the Russians participated in the Wikileaks hack/leaking.

Those last two items are not decidedly closed.
There's no investigation of Trump and no evidence that he or anyone in his administration are under investigation. Hope you're not expecting much more information on the DNC leak/hack since the DNC wasn't/isn't apparently willing to share anything with the government.
We're parsing words a bit. There is a probe underway looking at the connection between Trump admin, the election, and Russia.
You're parsing words. It's a Russia investigation first and foremost, which would include any contacts they had with US citizens (that would include Trump campaign folks....or Hillary campaign folks). It is not an investigation of the Trump administration per Rosenstein's letter.
It includes a look into Trump's role in firing Comey.
Fake news. Not in the memo.
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VisorBoy wrote:
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:VisorBoy, what secret power do you think Trump has?

To think that a guy as technically unsophisticated as him could pull off a coup with Wikileaks, phishing emails to Podesta,the mail server in Hillary's bathroom, etc, is beyond insane.

Take the tinfoil off. He's a rich old man who indulges on KFC. There is no way he has anything to do with any of this.
Where did I say I think Trump spearheaded Wikileaks' work?
So what exactly did he do? What did Rachel Maddox mean when she said "conspired with the Russians to fix the election"?

Let's get to the next level of detail on the accusation


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VisorBoy wrote:
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:VisorBoy, what secret power do you think Trump has?

To think that a guy as technically unsophisticated as him could pull off a coup with Wikileaks, phishing emails to Podesta,the mail server in Hillary's bathroom, etc, is beyond insane.

Take the tinfoil off. He's a rich old man who indulges on KFC. There is no way he has anything to do with any of this.
Where did I say I think Trump spearheaded Wikileaks' work?
So you're saying Trump is more #2 and less Dr. Evil? :lol:

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Really.....they should be looking into the previous administration's lack of response and careless attitude toward the hacking thing.
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