I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping they pass it just to make ip look like a dope with his new signature........
Here's some leadership for you........
Got it.HokieHam wrote:Has caused them to rethink quitting on the healthcare bill. Apparently a procedural vote next week.
I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping they pass it just to make ip look like a dope with his new signature........
Here's some leadership for you........
Obummercare is not sustainble, if the dems had maybe read it before they voted for it they may have figured that out. It is hilarious watching the complete analysis of the new healthcare proposals but nobody even read Obummercare before they voted for itip_law-hokie wrote:Got it.HokieHam wrote:Has caused them to rethink quitting on the healthcare bill. Apparently a procedural vote next week.
I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping they pass it just to make ip look like a dope with his new signature........
Here's some leadership for you........
From their internal analysis in 2010 they knew it was unsustainable. That was okay because they wanted single payer national healthcare, but couldn't get/didn't have support for it at that time. But like a good dealer they got the low income/low info/low social segment of society hooked, and once hooked they knew they couldn't give it up.cwtcr hokie wrote:Obummercare is not sustainble, if the dems had maybe read it before they voted for it they may have figured that out. It is hilarious watching the complete analysis of the new healthcare proposals but nobody even read Obummercare before they voted for itip_law-hokie wrote:Got it.HokieHam wrote:Has caused them to rethink quitting on the healthcare bill. Apparently a procedural vote next week.
I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping they pass it just to make ip look like a dope with his new signature........
Here's some leadership for you........
And all that spot on CBO analysis of Obummercare, lets not forget that...... and everyone would be covered...oops
I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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Got it.USN_Hokie wrote:From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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So yeah, you're looking for freebies.
Lawyers pay a higher ratio of taxes-to-services-received than most other professions (for the simple fact that they don't receive need-based services and their salaries result in higher tax revenue). If a lawyer is receiving more value in services than the taxes they pay, it means that other professions are receiving still greater value in the services they receive compared to the taxes they pay.USN_Hokie wrote:From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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So yeah, you're looking for freebies.
Haaaahaaaaahaaaa.......... *breathe* ....hahahahaha....oh boy. You think?VisorBoy wrote:Lawyers pay a higher ratio of taxes-to-services-received than most other professions (for the simple fact that they don't receive need-based services and their salaries result in higher tax revenue). If a lawyer is receiving more value in services than the taxes they pay, it means that other professions are receiving still greater value in the services they receive compared to the taxes they pay.USN_Hokie wrote:From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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So yeah, you're looking for freebies.
Having children plays no role in the calculation unless you assume that future budgets won't be run as deficits (and thus that one's children will receive less services per taxes paid, thus 'making up' for their parents' receiving more per taxes paid).
VisorBoy wrote:Lawyers pay a higher ratio of taxes-to-services-received than most other professions (for the simple fact that they don't receive need-based services and their salaries result in higher tax revenue). If a lawyer is receiving more value in services than the taxes they pay, it means that other professions are receiving still greater value in the services they receive compared to the taxes they pay.USN_Hokie wrote:From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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So yeah, you're looking for freebies.
Having children plays no role in the calculation unless you assume that future budgets won't be run as deficits (and thus that one's children will receive less services per taxes paid, thus 'making up' for their parents' receiving more per taxes paid).
Yep. IP votes for a welfare state, but he's planning on everyone else's children to pay for it.HokieJoe wrote:VisorBoy wrote:Lawyers pay a higher ratio of taxes-to-services-received than most other professions (for the simple fact that they don't receive need-based services and their salaries result in higher tax revenue). If a lawyer is receiving more value in services than the taxes they pay, it means that other professions are receiving still greater value in the services they receive compared to the taxes they pay.USN_Hokie wrote:From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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So yeah, you're looking for freebies.
Having children plays no role in the calculation unless you assume that future budgets won't be run as deficits (and thus that one's children will receive less services per taxes paid, thus 'making up' for their parents' receiving more per taxes paid).
When SSA started, the ratio of payers to payees was ~16:1. Now, it's ~3:1. Having children increases the ratio. Not having children decreases the ratio.
Just your kids.USN_Hokie wrote:Yep. IP votes for a welfare state, but he's planning on everyone else's children to pay for it.HokieJoe wrote:VisorBoy wrote:Lawyers pay a higher ratio of taxes-to-services-received than most other professions (for the simple fact that they don't receive need-based services and their salaries result in higher tax revenue). If a lawyer is receiving more value in services than the taxes they pay, it means that other professions are receiving still greater value in the services they receive compared to the taxes they pay.USN_Hokie wrote:From a macro perspective, you're still a net drain (with some very rare exceptions) as you're childless. You're relying on other peoples' children to pay for your entitlements.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't pay taxes?Attila T Hun wrote:Leftys like IP don't care about the people or health care...They just care about freebies that other folk pay for.
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So yeah, you're looking for freebies.
Having children plays no role in the calculation unless you assume that future budgets won't be run as deficits (and thus that one's children will receive less services per taxes paid, thus 'making up' for their parents' receiving more per taxes paid).
When SSA started, the ratio of payers to payees was ~16:1. Now, it's ~3:1. Having children increases the ratio. Not having children decreases the ratio.
Only if they aren't productive, i.e. born into povertyRiverguyVT wrote:The inverse of this, of course, is that children increase the burden of the state (education, police, etc)
RiverguyVT wrote:The inverse of this, of course, is that children increase the burden of the state (education, police, etc)