Trump just nuked trannies in the military on Twitter.

[USN_Hokie]

The military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender troops’ medical care

If you really want to get upset, think about how much the military spends on birth control. The two issues are exactly the same - both are used to supplement your personal sex habits.

[USN_Hokie]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

[ip_law-hokie]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

Are you an expert?

[cwtcr hokie]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

Are you an expert?

how many trans are out there in the USA.... hint, it is an extremely small number as not many people are that effed up in the head. Never mind that someone with that issue is likely not joining the military. Yes, some bozos may decide after joining they hate their dong or vagina but statistically alone that number will be very small

[HokieFanDC]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

LOL, this is funny on several levels.

[RiverguyVT]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

That's a pretty big "but outside of that"
We should be buying guns and butter, not spending to make Bob a Brenda.
The defense is not the realm for social experimentation nor engineering.

[HokieFanDC]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

Are you an expert?

how many trans are out there in the USA.... hint, it is an extremely small number as not many people are that effed up in the head. Never mind that someone with that issue is likely not joining the military. Yes, some bozos may decide after joining they hate their dong or vagina but statistically alone that number will be very small

Very few. Put it this way. There are 2M active and reserve military personnel. An estimate of 1,000 people is 0.05%. You know a very small %. And if you ramp that all the way up to 6,000, that's 0.3%, a small %.

But, let's just call it 999 people and agree that's not complete, unalduterated horse shirt.

[USN_Hokie]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

Are you an expert?

I know someone in the military who had Transgender integration training (or something like that) last month and was told there are ~140ppl in the DoD. DC is just using inflated % assumptions for the US and applying them to the military. Anyone who pretends to know anything about statistics can see the problems with that (even if we assumed the #'s were right).

[HokieFanDC]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

Are you an expert?

I know someone in the military who had Transgender integration training (or something like that) last month and was told there are ~140ppl in the DoD. DC is just using inflated % assumptions for the US and applying them to the military. Anyone who pretends to know anything about statistics can see the problems with that (even if we assumed the #'s were right).

DC said "no one knows", and gave a range from a bunch of different people's ESTIMATES. DC isn't using anything.
Apparently there is one person in the world who knows, and has unequivocally determined it is <1,000.

The good news from this determination is that with only 140 trans ppl in the military, the medical cost per year drops to around $200k. Someone should notify Trump that the medical cost issue has been solved.

[RiverguyVT]

What would an addadicktome cost? It would seem conversion to "womanish" would be more expensive, parts-wise.

[133743Hokie]

When I saw the announcement this morning my initial thought was well this isn't going to go over well with an extremely small segment of the population.

It seems I was right.

One of the tweeters above says its 14k to 15k active in the military!

[USN_Hokie]

The good news from this determination is that with only 140 trans ppl in the military, the medical cost per year drops to around $200k. Someone should notify Trump that the medical cost issue has been solved.

Yeah, 18+ months of non-deployment status for a 2yo enlistment. What a farking deal.

[USN_Hokie]

I know someone in the military who had Transgender integration training (or something like that) last month and was told there are ~140ppl in the DoD. DC is just using inflated % assumptions for the US and applying them to the military. Anyone who pretends to know anything about statistics can see the problems with that (even if we assumed the #'s were right).

DC said "no one knows", and gave a range from a bunch of different people's ESTIMATES. DC isn't using anything.
Apparently there is one person in the world who knows, and has unequivocally determined it is <1,000.

Nothing you said conflicts with what I said. You did laugh when I challenged your figures, though.

[HokieFanDC]

I know someone in the military who had Transgender integration training (or something like that) last month and was told there are ~140ppl in the DoD. DC is just using inflated % assumptions for the US and applying them to the military. Anyone who pretends to know anything about statistics can see the problems with that (even if we assumed the #'s were right).

DC said "no one knows", and gave a range from a bunch of different people's ESTIMATES. DC isn't using anything.
Apparently there is one person in the world who knows, and has unequivocally determined it is <1,000.

Nothing you said conflicts with what I said. You did laugh when I challenged your figures, though.

I'm not challenging your figures, as I've said twice now, I don't know the number. No one does. I referenced an estimate given by the RAND Corp., which seems like as good a source for military analysis as any. Nothing more, nothing less.

I laughed at your challenge of the figures simply b/c it's laughable to make unequivocable statements about the actual number, and you're refuting numbers from a reputable analytical company, based on no actual knowledge of anything.

[USN_Hokie]

I know someone in the military who had Transgender integration training (or something like that) last month and was told there are ~140ppl in the DoD. DC is just using inflated % assumptions for the US and applying them to the military. Anyone who pretends to know anything about statistics can see the problems with that (even if we assumed the #'s were right).

DC said "no one knows", and gave a range from a bunch of different people's ESTIMATES. DC isn't using anything.
Apparently there is one person in the world who knows, and has unequivocally determined it is <1,000.

Nothing you said conflicts with what I said. You did laugh when I challenged your figures, though.

I'm not challenging your figures, as I've said twice now, I don't know the number. No one does. I referenced an estimate given by the RAND Corp., which seems like as good a source for military analysis as any. Nothing more, nothing less.

I laughed at your challenge of the figures simply b/c it's laughable to make unequivocable statements about the actual number, and you're refuting numbers from a reputable analytical company, based on no actual knowledge of anything.

The figures are based on the national (very optimistic, IMO) statistics.

1. When was the ban on trannies lifted?
2. What percentage of the military population joined after that date? (sure, there were undoubtedly closet trannies, but the ban was undoubtedly a deterrent to joining).
3. Under what premise is it assumed that distribution of trannies in the general population would be represented in the military?

Bottom line: the figures are inflated for obvious reasons.

[cwtcr hokie]

The 14-15K number is absolute horseshit.. absolute garbage. I would guess the actual tranny number in the us miltary is less than 100

No one knows since they couldn't openly do so until recently. But, the estimates are wide ranging, between 1,000 and 6,000ish.
In other words, still a small number of people.
One question, why would it matter for people who aren't in combat positions, whether they are trans or not? I get the medical cost part, and think it's ridiculous that we would pay for trans surgery, but outside of that, what's the big deal?

Any estimate in the 4-figure range is complete, unadulterated, horse shirt.

Are you an expert?

I know someone in the military who had Transgender integration training (or something like that) last month and was told there are ~140ppl in the DoD. DC is just using inflated % assumptions for the US and applying them to the military. Anyone who pretends to know anything about statistics can see the problems with that (even if we assumed the #'s were right).

DC said "no one knows", and gave a range from a bunch of different people's ESTIMATES. DC isn't using anything.
Apparently there is one person in the world who knows, and has unequivocally determined it is <1,000.

The good news from this determination is that with only 140 trans ppl in the military, the medical cost per year drops to around $200k. Someone should notify Trump that the medical cost issue has been solved.

Its freaking common sense, why deal with it for one and secondly how many trans fruits are dying to join the military? common sense says very few. But again, why deal with it, strip joints don't hire males for a strip club where the people disrobing are women. The military has no freaking need to hire someone that has no clue if they like their genitals or not

[Attila T Hun]

Go leftys..this is a good fight for you....What we need more of in our fighting force is members who don't know where their dick is.

[HokieHam]

Go leftys..this is a good fight for you....What we need more of in our fighting force is members who don't know where their dick is.

I'd say they were hoping to get their balls shot off......

[awesome guy]

Yep

[RiverguyVT]

The number I heard today, 2016 figures... a whopping 188 people.

[Major Kong]

The number I heard today, 2016 figures... a whopping 188 people.

Well that's 15,000...ish.

[awesome guy]

Yep