Trump nails it

[cwtcr hokie]

Lots of violence. And a whole lot of aholes chanting about ethnic cleansing.

Luckily, it was a small enough group that the cops were able to shut them down before it got to the level of the Saturday rally.

Your posts are all silly conjecture. Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion.

You've described yourself as a Yankee in the past. You appear to be extremely vested in the President's success.

Do you think defending the rebel flag, and the confederacy in general, is a worthy stand for this president? How much is this cause really worth to you?

wow, all this discussion and you still can't comprehend, nobody is defending the civil war, it is our history tho and the monuments that are offending some idiots have been there for decades and are a part of our history. The prez expressly bashed the bigoted groups involved in Cville except he left out BY NAME the BLM and antifa. But yea, ignoring what Trump actually says is the only way you idiots can keep this stuff up

[USN_Hokie]

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Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

[HokieHam]

Trump was defending those protesting the Robert E. Lee statute removal. Polite society views these people as worthless, racist necks. I can understand your blind spot on this issue, but you are going to have to take my word on it. No country for old necks.

Yeah, he was. He said there were decent folks protesting the removal. Do you think that anyone that has a differing opinion from your silly views is deserving of being attacked by a mob? Not all protestors there were moronic Nazis and racists. They just have a differing view and if they have that view and protest peacefully, there is no reason to consider them other than decent.

[133743Hokie]

Your posts are all silly conjecture. Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion.

You've described yourself as a Yankee in the past. You appear to be extremely vested in the President's success.

Do you think defending the rebel flag, and the confederacy in general, is a worthy stand for this president? How much is this cause really worth to you?

Trump is not defending the rebel flag or the confederacy in general. Why do you continue to make stuff up?

My bad. Fake news. Fake Trump giving a fake news conference.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-n ... cists.html

More bullshit from you. Have you no shame?

"You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists and the press has treated them absolutely unfairly," Trump said at Trump Tower in New York.

A correct, factual statement. There were non affiliated people there solely objecting go the statues removal. No tie to or affiliation with the racist group also there.

[cwtcr hokie]

Lots of violence. And a whole lot of aholes chanting about ethnic cleansing.

Luckily, it was a small enough group that the cops were able to shut them down before it got to the level of the Saturday rally.

Your posts are all silly conjecture. Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion.

You've described yourself as a Yankee in the past. You appear to be extremely vested in the President's success.

Do you think defending the rebel flag, and the confederacy in general, is a worthy stand for this president? How much is this cause really worth to you?

Trump is not defending the rebel flag or the confederacy in general. Why do you continue to make stuff up?

My bad. Fake news. Fake Trump giving a fake news conference.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-n ... cists.html

please tell me exactly what Trump said that was not factual, one side had a permit, one side did not. There were normal people on both sides and there were extremist on both sides. Please do tell what is actually not true, every word he said was fact....just hard for some to take. A politician actually telling it like it is, I know shocking

[133743Hokie]

His press conference was great today. Loved when he asked the reporter if she could define "alt right" and she couldn't.

It would have been more awesome if he hadn't followed it up by calling the other side the alt-left, which is a more amorphous and undefined term than alt-right.

That's the point. He's saying both sides are wrong by telling people they're two sides of the same shirt sandwich.

I think it's a pretty tough sell that both sides are the "same", when one side is espousing Nazi and KKK ideologies.

...and the other side espouses anarchist overthrow of elected officials and the murder of police officers. Why can't you see that both are fringe groups that are bad for the country?

Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

You are trying to assign relative evil factors to the two groups, with the white supremacists being more evil. But that is irrelevant to clear thinkers. Rational people think they are both equally bad for our country. Apparently you don't, and that says a lot about you.

[awesome guy]

What do you consider wearing Nazi clothing, carrying and wearing swastikas, chanting Nazi slogans, and calling for the removal of Jews?

Sure, just like jack-holes were wearing black separatist /communist party clothing, carrying and wearing the hammer and sickle, and calling for the killing of cops.

There is no difference...except for there being a whole lot more leftists.

Yep.

[awesome guy]

LOL. Chanting "Blood and soil", and "Jews will not replace us" is directly tying yourself to the Nazis, and their genocidal ideology. And on the torch march, they were all chanting it, not a small, small fraction. They didn't carry signs, they just wore and carried the symbols of

And if you want to bring in Stalin, go ahead, but I don't see people saying they want to do what Stalin (or Mao) did, praising him, or chanting about ethnic purity. And the idiots that are Antifa, aren't communists. Not really sure what they are, other than idiots.

Was anyone praising Hitler? Curious how you have different standards for different groups.

Besides that, you haven't provided any counter arguments to my points, but continue defending cop killers by all means.

What do you consider wearing Nazi clothing, carrying and wearing swastikas, chanting Nazi slogans, and calling for the removal of Jews?

Stupidity. They'd demand a fair living wage and price controls if they were real Nazis. They're a caricature of German Nazis who were socialists.

You're right. Those stupid idiots need to embrace the entire Nazi philosophy, not just the genocide part. Whew, I guess they're really OK folks, just misguided.

They're morons

[HokieFanDC]

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Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

[HokieJoe]

His press conference was great today. Loved when he asked the reporter if she could define "alt right" and she couldn't.

It would have been more awesome if he hadn't followed it up by calling the other side the alt-left, which is a more amorphous and undefined term than alt-right.

That's the point. He's saying both sides are wrong by telling people they're two sides of the same shirt sandwich.

I think it's a pretty tough sell that both sides are the "same", when one side is espousing Nazi and KKK ideologies.

...and the other side espouses anarchist overthrow of elected officials and the murder of police officers. Why can't you see that both are fringe groups that are bad for the country?

Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

It's an irrelevant goddam distinction when they're both committing acts of violence. Nazi's and the KKK can advocate for whatever crazy, racist BS they like. That is their 1st Amendment right under the United States Constitution.

ANTIFA are bunch of communist-inspired thugs. They are the exact flipside of those KKK groups- they just don't have the same number of years under their belts as the Klan. But you can be sure that they will advocate methods which are just as violent and destructive as the Neo-Nazi's and the KKK. They do not respect the sovereign laws of this country. In fact, all of those groups abhor our system of government and commerce. If you talk to these crazy F's, they'll invoke 'hate speech' as a justification for the violence. The Constitution doesn't recognize 'hate speech' as an impediment to the 1st Amendment. At all.

At this point I'm just sick of them all. The spiteful part of me would be completely fine with stripping them of their U.S. Citizenship and deporting their worthless asses to a 3rd world dump.

[ip_law-hokie]

Lots of violence. And a whole lot of aholes chanting about ethnic cleansing.

Luckily, it was a small enough group that the cops were able to shut them down before it got to the level of the Saturday rally.

Your posts are all silly conjecture. Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion.

You've described yourself as a Yankee in the past. You appear to be extremely vested in the President's success.

Do you think defending the rebel flag, and the confederacy in general, is a worthy stand for this president? How much is this cause really worth to you?

Trump is not defending the rebel flag or the confederacy in general. Why do you continue to make stuff up?

My bad. Fake news. Fake Trump giving a fake news conference.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-n ... cists.html

please tell me exactly what Trump said that was not factual, one side had a permit, one side did not. There were normal people on both sides and there were extremist on both sides. Please do tell what is actually not true, every word he said was fact....just hard for some to take. A politician actually telling it like it is, I know shocking

My point, cleetus, is merely that it surprises my Trump would be willing to take so much heat to defend silly rednecks who like the rebel flag. The rebel flag is repulsive, as are the stinking, poor white trash who support the rebel flag.

[133743Hokie]

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Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

Compare the two one year into each of their existence. Just curious.

[awesome guy]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

You're hung up on historical symbols. Over the last 5 years, BLM and Antifa have killed more people than the KKK. They're also violent at their rallies.

[USN_Hokie]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

LOL, We've come full circle back to your stupid intergenerational guilt argument. Guess what, based on your own dumbarse standard, that makes the folks carrying the hammer and sickle worse.

One more time: they're the same. Neither is better/worse. You sound like McMuffin's Twitter feed.

[HokieFanDC]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

Compare the two one year into each of their existence. Just curious.

Not sure how to do that. The Nazis were a political party. It took a while for them to gain control, but when they did, they got to work pretty fast.
The KKK was formed with a structure and set goals in place, some of which was political activism, and a lot of violence and threats to reconstructionist GOPers.

[awesome guy]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

LOL, We've come full circle back to your stupid intergenerational guilt argument. Guess what, based on your own dumbarse standard, that makes the folks carrying the hammer and sickle worse.

One more time: they're the same. Neither is better/worse. You sound like McMuffin's Twitter feed.

To do so would admit that progressives/commies are violent and dangerous.

[USN_Hokie]

You're hung up on historical symbols. Over the last 5 years, BLM and Antifa have killed more people than the KKK. They're also violent at their rallies.

Yep.

The obvious solution here is for the white separatists to change their slogan to a panda bear. That would make them A-OK in DC's book.

[cwtcr hokie]

quote="cwtcr hokie"]

Lots of violence. And a whole lot of aholes chanting about ethnic cleansing.

Luckily, it was a small enough group that the cops were able to shut them down before it got to the level of the Saturday rally.

Your posts are all silly conjecture. Let me know when you want to have a rational discussion.

You've described yourself as a Yankee in the past. You appear to be extremely vested in the President's success.

Do you think defending the rebel flag, and the confederacy in general, is a worthy stand for this president? How much is this cause really worth to you?

Trump is not defending the rebel flag or the confederacy in general. Why do you continue to make stuff up?

My bad. Fake news. Fake Trump giving a fake news conference.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/15/trump-n ... cists.html

please tell me exactly what Trump said that was not factual, one side had a permit, one side did not. There were normal people on both sides and there were extremist on both sides. Please do tell what is actually not true, every word he said was fact....just hard for some to take. A politician actually telling it like it is, I know shocking[/quote]

My point, cleetus, is merely that it surprises my Trump would be willing to take so much heat to defend silly rednecks who like the rebel flag. The rebel flag is repulsive, as are the stinking, poor white trash who support the rebel flag.[/quote]

my point dork is Trump never defended the KKK or rebel flag, lets talk facts. The folks that oppose the monument (purpose of the demonstration in support of it) physically attacked the monument supporters as the counter protest does not beleive anyone but them has the right to protest anything and if you say something that they disagree with you must be shut down. One group had a permit and one did not, once attacked both side participated in the violence. Nobody is supporting the KKK or white supremacist, but EVERYONE should support the right of an american to protest and enjoy free speech.... OR else every BLM protest should never occur

[HokieFanDC]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

LOL, We've come full circle back to your stupid intergenerational guilt argument. Guess what, based on your own dumbarse standard, that makes the folks carrying the hammer and sickle worse.

One more time: they're the same. Neither is better/worse. You sound like McMuffin's Twitter feed.

Got it. Ignore historical meanings, and act like the world started a year ago. That's stupid IMO.

[awesome guy]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

LOL, We've come full circle back to your stupid intergenerational guilt argument. Guess what, based on your own dumbarse standard, that makes the folks carrying the hammer and sickle worse.

One more time: they're the same. Neither is better/worse. You sound like McMuffin's Twitter feed.

Got it. Ignore historical meanings, and act like the world started a year ago. That's stupid IMO.

Do you think they're really Nazis? They're following Hitler or are they just retards stealing Nazi imagery for the shock and fear value of it? I doubt they know much about anything, especially Hitler.

[HokieJoe]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

LOL, We've come full circle back to your stupid intergenerational guilt argument. Guess what, based on your own dumbarse standard, that makes the folks carrying the hammer and sickle worse.

One more time: they're the same. Neither is better/worse. You sound like McMuffin's Twitter feed.

Got it. Ignore historical meanings, and act like the world started a year ago. That's stupid IMO.

There is no right to visit violence on others who are exercising their right to free speech. It's really simple.

[awesome guy]

[
Both are bad for the country. Both are fringe groups. But they aren't equivalent, or different sides of the same coin.
Only one group is taking on the persona of groups that tried to erase an entire race, and that worked to deprive blacks of all their rights in the US, including murdering and beating them.

Maybe you think anarchists are the same as nazis, and the kkk. I don't.

Only one group is literally calling for people to be killed. How can you be so obstinately dense on this?

Your argument is literally "because...swastika!"

Why do you think someone would wear a swastika, or carry a nazi flag, or chant blood and soil? All those things have only one thing in common, they represent the killing of millions of jews in the name of white supremacy. The argument "because...swastika" is pretty good, because if you choose to wear it, you are proudly telling the world you agree with Hitler. If you don't agree with Hitler, then you shouldn't wear his symbols. It's that freaking symbol.
Same with the KKK.

And I know you keep arguing about killing cops. Yes, that's awful, and all those people should be arrested and criticized.

But, in historical perspective, you can't equate the actions of the Nazis and the KKK, with groups like antifa or blm. Well, maybe you can.

LOL, We've come full circle back to your stupid intergenerational guilt argument. Guess what, based on your own dumbarse standard, that makes the folks carrying the hammer and sickle worse.

One more time: they're the same. Neither is better/worse. You sound like McMuffin's Twitter feed.

Got it. Ignore historical meanings, and act like the world started a year ago. That's stupid IMO.

There is no right to visit violence on others who are exercising their right to free speech. It's really simple.

Yep

[HokieFanDC]

You're hung up on historical symbols. Over the last 5 years, BLM and Antifa have killed more people than the KKK. They're also violent at their rallies.

Yep.

The obvious solution here is for the white separatists to change their slogan to a panda bear. That would make them A-OK in DC's book.

That's moronic. Changing their slogans would mean that they had different goals and ideas, which would make them different.

[awesome guy]

You're hung up on historical symbols. Over the last 5 years, BLM and Antifa have killed more people than the KKK. They're also violent at their rallies.

Yep.

The obvious solution here is for the white separatists to change their slogan to a panda bear. That would make them A-OK in DC's book.

Haha. I think the swastika enables time travel, it's enabling Nazis to escape Patton by jumping into their future and our present! Bastards!

[awesome guy]

You're hung up on historical symbols. Over the last 5 years, BLM and Antifa have killed more people than the KKK. They're also violent at their rallies.

Yep.

The obvious solution here is for the white separatists to change their slogan to a panda bear. That would make them A-OK in DC's book.

That's moronic. Changing their slogans would mean that they had different goals and ideas, which would make them different.

Didn't we just cover that? They're really just progressives supporting the science based eugenics program.