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I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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[emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1]Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Well aren't you just specialnolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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I like it, but go through it to fast. And I refuse to use one of those balls that get wet and collect mildew.Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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That's the point. It's marketing. Oh, and most of it is marketed towards beta males:ip_law-hokie wrote:Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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I like it, but go through it to fast. And I refuse to use one of those balls that get wet and collect mildew.
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It was effective marketing, but I'll stick to what I use instead. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.USN_Hokie wrote:That's the point. It's marketing. Oh, and most of it is marketed towards beta males:ip_law-hokie wrote:Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I don't like body wash... prefer a bar of soap.... maybe millenials are afraid of bending over to pick it up since 8 of them share a house at times [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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I like it, but go through it to fast. And I refuse to use one of those balls that get wet and collect mildew.
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LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.nolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.CFB Apologist wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.nolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 yearsnolanvt wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.CFB Apologist wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.nolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.CFB Apologist wrote:Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 yearsnolanvt wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.CFB Apologist wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.nolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.nolanvt wrote:Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.CFB Apologist wrote:Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 yearsnolanvt wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.CFB Apologist wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.nolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?CFB Apologist wrote:I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.nolanvt wrote:Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.CFB Apologist wrote:Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 yearsnolanvt wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.CFB Apologist wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.nolanvt wrote:I will admit to taking part in the killing of:
Shitty chain restaurants: because I like good food.
Napkins: I use paper towels or napkins from the restaurant when I get fast food. I only break out the washable napkins for special occasions.
Golf: and by kill, I mean I work full-time and have better things to do with my free time, so I no longer play every weekend possible.
Motorcycles: don't need another depreciating asset that I'll rarely use like the Harley my Dad maybe rode four times.
Bars of soap: bodywash is easier.
Diamonds: for the reasons Kmarko stated. You're a moron if you waste significant money on a wedding band/engagement ring.
Department stores: better shopping choices available.
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Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.ip_law-hokie wrote:
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]
What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
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Yes- it was very big in the DC/MD/NOVA area and some in Myrtle, other resort areas as well. In the late 1990's early 2000- "nicer" courses were built and billed as "daily fee" meaning you pay $110.00 for greens fee's with a cart and you could play 27 or 36 holes- if (big if) the course was not packed and you teed off at 7am.. there was never a gaurentee of tee times or anything, just a "nice" course and country club experience without the monthly assessments, etc. Lee's Hill in Fredericksburg, Little Bennet, Links at chaledon, and river downs in maryland come right to the top of my head. Bottom line is it was a scam.. of sorts- an excuse to charge more as the demand for better courses and tee times rose. Below gives you an idea
https://www.billycaspergolf.com/clients/daily-fee
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]CFB Apologist wrote:Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.ip_law-hokie wrote:
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What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
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Yes- it was very big in the DC/MD/NOVA area and some in Myrtle, other resort areas as well. In the late 1990's early 2000- "nicer" courses were built and billed as "daily fee" meaning you pay $110.00 for greens fee's with a cart and you could play 27 or 36 holes- if (big if) the course was not packed and you teed off at 7am.. there was never a gaurentee of tee times or anything, just a "nice" course and country club experience without the monthly assessments, etc. Lee's Hill in Fredericksburg, Little Bennet, Links at chaledon, and river downs in maryland come right to the top of my head. Bottom line is it was a scam.. of sorts- an excuse to charge more as the demand for better courses and tee times rose. Below gives you an idea
https://www.billycaspergolf.com/clients/daily-fee[/quote]
Thanks. Obviously behind the curve on that.
I agree - 18 is enough for me.
And I'm looking forward to millennials killing golf. It's hard enough getting a weekend tee time before noon in the metro area.
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In the industry, public courses are daily fee courses. You pay to play that day.ip_law-hokie wrote:What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?CFB Apologist wrote:I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.nolanvt wrote:Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.CFB Apologist wrote:Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 yearsnolanvt wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.CFB Apologist wrote:
LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.
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LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.[/quote]
You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.
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Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 years[/quote]
Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]
What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
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In the industry, public courses are daily fee courses. You pay to play that day.[/quote]
OK. I've been playing public courses for 22 years and have only paid by the round.
You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.
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Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 years[/quote]
Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]
What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
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In the industry, public courses are daily fee courses. You pay to play that day.[/quote]
OK. I've been playing public courses for 22 years and have only paid by the round.
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You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.ip_law-hokie wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.
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Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 years[/quote]
Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]
What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
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In the industry, public courses are daily fee courses. You pay to play that day.[/quote]
OK. I've been playing public courses for 22 years and have only paid by the round.[/quote]
Yes. "By the round", "by the day", "Free replays", "Unlimited holes", etc. It's all lumped into the same category in the industry -- either you pay recurring dues (membership) or you pay to play (called daily fee in the industry)
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Re: "Millennials are killing..."
Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 years[/quote]133743Hokie wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.ip_law-hokie wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.
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Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]
What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
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In the industry, public courses are daily fee courses. You pay to play that day.[/quote]
OK. I've been playing public courses for 22 years and have only paid by the round.[/quote]
Yes. "By the round", "by the day", "Free replays", "Unlimited holes", etc. It's all lumped into the same category in the industry -- either you pay recurring dues (membership) or you pay to play (called daily fee in the industry)[/quote]
Apologist was suggesting that pay by day to be a trend in at least the Tiger years over pay by round.
I think golf's purported demise to be exaggerated. As apologist said, I think it's where it has always been. The Tiger obsession was an aberration, golf is not a mainstream sport for the masses. But it still has a niche of very loyal supporters that is more affluent, and more dedicated to the sport, than your average NFL fan.
If you are in the industry, or were, I'd be fascinated to know how busy a course must be, and at what fees, in order for it to be profitable. I understand they tend to be poor investments.
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Quarry Pines GC is not far from where we lived in Pima County.CFB Apologist wrote:https://www.billycaspergolf.com/clients/daily-fee
Dang there are several courses in that general area.
Antelope Hills in Prescott, AZ I bet is a sweet place to play and at elevation too.
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Agree with that. I may play a handful times each year for social occasions like most other hackers in generations preceding me.ip_law-hokie wrote:Nah, it was a funny well done article that made some good points.. and he admits golf is pretty much unchanged from the "norm" over the past 40 years133743Hokie wrote:You should take this up with the FAKE NEWS stories blaming millennials for killing X business.ip_law-hokie wrote:LOL.. chain restaurants have been a volatile/finicky business - i dunno- forever- turnover there has zero to do with "millennials" - its called "the restaurant business"- google it. Golf courses have never in history catered to underemployed, wimpy 20 something white guys and gals- never.. Golf is back where it has always been for a 100 years- save the artificial "tiger woods" bubble of 2001-2006 that spawned some over-built "daily fee" courses that should have never been built that way in the first place. Motorcycles have been replaced by "scooters" by millennials in the same way "cabs" have been replaced by "uber"- no material difference in the two.
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I'm an avid golfer- but I do not belong to a country club, so I play a lot of different courses- and I enjoy that. I have really not noticed much difference- courses are still relatively crowded on the weekends- even similar to boom levels after the woods phenomenon. Like I said, what HAS changed is some of these "county club like" expensive "daily fee" courses have either closed or changed their business model to offer more affordable rounds- because- shock, not a lot of people cared about being able to play 36 for the same greens fee IF the starter had room for you after your 18... looking back its hard to believe "daily fee" course pricing even took off the way it did.[/quote]
What is the deal with this daily fee stuff? I'm as into golf as much as anyone, and I've never heard of it. Is it a thing to pay for the day instead of the round?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]
In the industry, public courses are daily fee courses. You pay to play that day.[/quote]
OK. I've been playing public courses for 22 years and have only paid by the round.[/quote]
Yes. "By the round", "by the day", "Free replays", "Unlimited holes", etc. It's all lumped into the same category in the industry -- either you pay recurring dues (membership) or you pay to play (called daily fee in the industry)[/quote]
Apologist was suggesting that pay by day to be a trend in at least the Tiger years over pay by round.
I think golf's purported demise to be exaggerated. As apologist said, I think it's where it has always been. The Tiger obsession was an aberration, golf is not a mainstream sport for the masses. But it still has a niche of very loyal supporters that is more affluent, and more dedicated to the sport, than your average NFL fan.
If you are in the industry, or were, I'd be fascinated to know how busy a course must be, and at what fees, in order for it to be profitable. I understand they tend to be poor investments.
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Rounds played has been trending down for 10 years. Except for the top end exclusive private clubs, golf clubs (as they have existed historically for generations) are a dying breed. Successful country clubs now focus on the entire family and not just the golfer. 20, 30, even 40 year olds aren't getting with their buddies every Saturday to play. They spend time with their family.
Young people are pressed for time. Can't spend 5 hours on around of golf. They actually spend more time practicing than playing. Private clubs have greatly expanded and enhanced their practice facilities for this reason. More people playing 9 holes (USGA and PGA are both pushing this).
A lot more to thus but essentially golf is declining. Courses grossly overbuilt. Private clubs closing all the time. Public too.
Courses are expensive to build so they carry a lot of debt. Even with courses closing there is a lot of competition for a reduced number of players so cost per round is dropping making it hard to make money. Operational costs are high. Tough business. Courses used to make good money on outings but those are getting fewer and smaller as today's younger person isn't playing as much and don't care to play in such events.