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Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS, it does not even have to be much time but it teaches young people a ton. But parents these days don't want to stress muffy and god forbid he or she should have to put the phone down for more than 2 minutes.

I scratch my head in how people think this country is sustainable, we are coming up with multiple ways to get rid of humans in jobs while trying to make everything free,(education, health care, retirement). In my mind it is not sustainable but I wish luck to the kids of today, my wife and I never had any but I hope it works out for my nieces and nephews


If the problem is with the parents of high school kids, what's wrong with all the Gen Xers raising kids the wrong way?


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huh? Yes I think pajama boy at 26 is still living in his cute bedroom is an idiot also. Sorry I have a big belief in personal responsibility, it is very sad to see so many that have no concept of personal responsibility. (But it is not sustainable, and you know that)


I simply asked why Gen X is being irresponsible in raising the current generation of high schoolers if your assertion is correct about parents these days.


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cwtcr hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
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133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS

I agree. If my kids can't find a job I'll contact a landscaping company and let them know I'll pay their hourly rate. Is that illegal?


landscaping is not going to work anyways, illegal mexicans get all those jobs, beside you have to be available during the day to do landscaping. But I see tons of signs for help in rest., retail, etc.
I would not offer to pay the hourly rate though as then you need to set up a company, file weekly, monthly, quarterly and annual reports and get some workmens comp and liability insurance. And set up your state unemployment and all the forms required to be submitted for new hires. Now if you want to give the place money as a contribution or capital infusion or straight revenue the business owner would prob gladly accept that


I would pay the owner and the owner would pay my kid. It would be a great experience.

"Best" job I ever had. Nothing will teach you the value of education like laying soaking wet sod on an upper 90 degree day with ridiculous humidity in Va Beach/Chesapeake. I was paid under the table and slightly above minimum wage. Several of the guys I worked with were over 40. I don't know how they did it everyday.


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nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS, it does not even have to be much time but it teaches young people a ton. But parents these days don't want to stress muffy and god forbid he or she should have to put the phone down for more than 2 minutes.

I scratch my head in how people think this country is sustainable, we are coming up with multiple ways to get rid of humans in jobs while trying to make everything free,(education, health care, retirement). In my mind it is not sustainable but I wish luck to the kids of today, my wife and I never had any but I hope it works out for my nieces and nephews


If the problem is with the parents of high school kids, what's wrong with all the Gen Xers raising kids the wrong way?


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huh? Yes I think pajama boy at 26 is still living in his cute bedroom is an idiot also. Sorry I have a big belief in personal responsibility, it is very sad to see so many that have no concept of personal responsibility. (But it is not sustainable, and you know that)


I simply asked why Gen X is being irresponsible in raising the current generation of high schoolers if your assertion is correct about parents these days.


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Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat.
Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame.
You know exactly whose to blame,
the mother and the father.

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TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS

I agree. If my kids can't find a job I'll contact a landscaping company and let them know I'll pay their hourly rate. Is that illegal?


landscaping is not going to work anyways, illegal mexicans get all those jobs, beside you have to be available during the day to do landscaping. But I see tons of signs for help in rest., retail, etc.
I would not offer to pay the hourly rate though as then you need to set up a company, file weekly, monthly, quarterly and annual reports and get some workmens comp and liability insurance. And set up your state unemployment and all the forms required to be submitted for new hires. Now if you want to give the place money as a contribution or capital infusion or straight revenue the business owner would prob gladly accept that


I would pay the owner and the owner would pay my kid. It would be a great experience.

"Best" job I ever had. Nothing will teach you the value of education like laying soaking wet sod on an upper 90 degree day with ridiculous humidity in Va Beach/Chesapeake. I was paid under the table and slightly above minimum wage. Several of the guys I worked with were over 40. I don't know how they did it everyday.


I did golf course landscaping for 2yrs in high school. It was a great job - done by 1, 3pm at the latest. I made $7.25hr which was better than all my peers. Got to hit on the beer golf cart chicks. Very weird Guatemalans, though - Hector liked to eat goat excrement.

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TheH2 wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS, it does not even have to be much time but it teaches young people a ton. But parents these days don't want to stress muffy and god forbid he or she should have to put the phone down for more than 2 minutes.

I scratch my head in how people think this country is sustainable, we are coming up with multiple ways to get rid of humans in jobs while trying to make everything free,(education, health care, retirement). In my mind it is not sustainable but I wish luck to the kids of today, my wife and I never had any but I hope it works out for my nieces and nephews


If the problem is with the parents of high school kids, what's wrong with all the Gen Xers raising kids the wrong way?


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huh? Yes I think pajama boy at 26 is still living in his cute bedroom is an idiot also. Sorry I have a big belief in personal responsibility, it is very sad to see so many that have no concept of personal responsibility. (But it is not sustainable, and you know that)


I simply asked why Gen X is being irresponsible in raising the current generation of high schoolers if your assertion is correct about parents these days.


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Who do you blame when the kid is a brat?
Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat.
Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame.
You know exactly whose to blame,
the mother and the father.

Oompa loompa....


Whose to blame? :mrgreen:

Agree. Children are mirrors of their parents more or less. If they were raised by someone else who gave them bad habits, that's the fault of the parents as well.

The child is the father of the man.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS

I agree. If my kids can't find a job I'll contact a landscaping company and let them know I'll pay their hourly rate. Is that illegal?


landscaping is not going to work anyways, illegal mexicans get all those jobs, beside you have to be available during the day to do landscaping. But I see tons of signs for help in rest., retail, etc.
I would not offer to pay the hourly rate though as then you need to set up a company, file weekly, monthly, quarterly and annual reports and get some workmens comp and liability insurance. And set up your state unemployment and all the forms required to be submitted for new hires. Now if you want to give the place money as a contribution or capital infusion or straight revenue the business owner would prob gladly accept that


I would pay the owner and the owner would pay my kid. It would be a great experience.

"Best" job I ever had. Nothing will teach you the value of education like laying soaking wet sod on an upper 90 degree day with ridiculous humidity in Va Beach/Chesapeake. I was paid under the table and slightly above minimum wage. Several of the guys I worked with were over 40. I don't know how they did it everyday.


I did golf course landscaping for 2yrs in high school. It was a great job - done by 1, 3pm at the latest. I made $7.25hr which was better than all my peers. Got to hit on the beer golf cart chicks. Very weird Guatemalans, though - Hector liked to eat goat excrement.


Wow, that's way above minimum wage (or was for me anyway).


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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience


The article makes some very good points and I am a big believer in getting a job while in HS

I agree. If my kids can't find a job I'll contact a landscaping company and let them know I'll pay their hourly rate. Is that illegal?


landscaping is not going to work anyways, illegal mexicans get all those jobs, beside you have to be available during the day to do landscaping. But I see tons of signs for help in rest., retail, etc.
I would not offer to pay the hourly rate though as then you need to set up a company, file weekly, monthly, quarterly and annual reports and get some workmens comp and liability insurance. And set up your state unemployment and all the forms required to be submitted for new hires. Now if you want to give the place money as a contribution or capital infusion or straight revenue the business owner would prob gladly accept that


I would pay the owner and the owner would pay my kid. It would be a great experience.

"Best" job I ever had. Nothing will teach you the value of education like laying soaking wet sod on an upper 90 degree day with ridiculous humidity in Va Beach/Chesapeake. I was paid under the table and slightly above minimum wage. Several of the guys I worked with were over 40. I don't know how they did it everyday.


I did golf course landscaping for 2yrs in high school. It was a great job - done by 1, 3pm at the latest. I made $7.25hr which was better than all my peers. Got to hit on the beer golf cart chicks. Very weird Guatemalans, though - Hector liked to eat goat excrement.


I did landscaping but it was for myself, I mowed lots of lawns, then when I got my license at 15 1/2 or whenever it was went to work in restaurants, did that thru vt graduation


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133743Hokie wrote:
Another article on this topic. Interesting thesis regarding why young people are no longer getting jobs while in high school. Essentially, life is easy and they don't have to. They don't understand the concept of work, they don't understand what money is, where it comes from, etc.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... experience

And it shows when they enter the workplace...


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I had the best job in high school. I worked in Falls Church at the AAA. I did 12 hours a week of telesales. The pay was all commission and I made about $125 to $150/wk once I got good at it. This was 82 to 84, when minimum wage was $3.35. I spent two years in the job and was able to buy a used Fiat Spider and spend a month in Europe once high school ended. The whole experience was incredible now that I think about it.


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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.

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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.

It's easy to find out. It's even easier for to remain ignorant.


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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.

It's easy to find out. It's even easier for to remain ignorant.


You're still butthurt from your last spanking, aren't you little guy?

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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.

It's easy to find out. It's even easier for to remain ignorant.


You're still butthurt from your last spanking, aren't you little guy?
Get used to it. I kicked his ass so much that he refused to comment anymore. Then he turned to this FloHo type of butthurt bleeding into everything. Damn beach whinners.

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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Not to interrupt your other contests, but I think the salient point of the article is that there is nothing wrong with the kids. If this is a problem, and I think that it is, then our issue should be with the parents.


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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:


Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.

It's easy to find out. It's even easier for to remain ignorant.


You're still butthurt from your last spanking, aren't you little guy?
Get used to it. I kicked his ass much that he refused to comment anymore. Then he turned to this FloHo type of butthurt bleeding into everything. Damn beach whinners.


That's what he's doing here. His overinflated ego got a dose of reality the other thread, so he's going to troll(shirt on) every thread like a little child in retaliation. Sounds like something a kid raised in daycare would do.

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[quote="USN_Hokie"]


Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.

It's easy to find out. It's even easier for to remain ignorant.


You're still butthurt from your last spanking, aren't you little guy?
Get used to it. I kicked his ass much that he refused to comment anymore. Then he turned to this FloHo type of butthurt bleeding into everything. Damn beach whinners.


That's what he's doing here. His overinflated ego got a dose of reality the other thread, so he's going to troll(shirt on) every thread like a little child in retaliation. Sounds like something a kid raised in daycare would do.[/quote]

And you find that posts like this with your lunch room buddy ameliorates the situation?


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Life of the liberal transgender protestor kid

1. Get further indoctrinated at NYU with a degree in women studies

2. Accumulate $200k in debt

3. After making $28K for three years, blame it on not having enough education

4. Go to grad schools to get masters and another $200K in debt

5. Get drivers license so you can drive Uber

6. Owe the taxpayers $500k when you account for the accumulated interest due to all the deferrals you took

7. Tell everyone you aren't getting married or buying a house because now at 30, you feel you have a unique set of values. The truth is, no one wants wants to inherit your debt, lack of life skills, or bad attitude.

8. At 40 you go on disability because you are a 100 pounds overweight substance abuser, still getting your therapist paid for by your parents.

9. Blame Trump, as he's a racist


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typical redneck conservative

1. get drunk at 16 at a party and get pregnant

2. drop out of school and take a job as a waitress at the truck stop

3. can't afford child care while waitressing so quit job and go on government dole

4. find jesus at 23 cause your deadbeat boyfriend left you for his meth dealer

5. your preacher screams at you about the horrors of the liberal democrats and abortion

6. vote republican in the next election because your preacher told you to while you live off welfare

7. at 40, you are a grandparent, live in a trailer, hate the liberal elite, blame Obama


but hey! you tried alcohol in high school so it shows you are willing to take risks!


I actually these two posts together is a pretty funny UWS moment. We should all be able to laugh a bit at this.


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typical redneck conservative

1. get drunk at 16 at a party and get pregnant

2. drop out of school and take a job as a waitress at the truck stop

3. can't afford child care while waitressing so quit job and go on government dole

4. find jesus at 23 cause your deadbeat boyfriend left you for his meth dealer

5. your preacher screams at you about the horrors of the liberal democrats and abortion

5.5. find new church where everyone votes on what the bible means

6. vote republican in the next election because your preacher told you to while you live off welfare

7. child disowns you, becomes patent clerk, moves to New York and calls everyone who's conservative a "neck"

8. child votes for Hillary, then later lies about it




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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Not to interrupt your other contests, but I think the salient point of the article is that there is nothing wrong with the kids. If this is a problem, and I think that it is, then our issue should be with the parents.


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The parents are certainly contributors to this, but the kids have to take shared responsibility


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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Not to interrupt your other contests, but I think the salient point of the article is that there is nothing wrong with the kids. If this is a problem, and I think that it is, then our issue should be with the parents.
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Its absolutely about the parents, I said that earlier.

I don't think kids delaying adulthood is a good thing.

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Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Teen pregnancies, teen births, and abortions are all much lower than 20 years ago. Use of the pill, not sure about, but seems like it would be higher, especially for teens.


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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:


Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Teen pregnancies, teen births, and abortions* are all much lower than 20 years ago. Use of the pill, not sure about, but seems like it would be higher, especially for teens.


*For white people. Hispanics have dropped a bit and blacks haven't really moved at all looking at CDC figures. Looking at the published figures, you're correct though - they have dropped.

Pregnancy data is all based on surveys as far as I can tell, but like I said, haven't looked that closely.

Point is, if women are having fewer abortions because they're using more birth control, I wouldn't exactly call that virtuous.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:


Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Teen pregnancies, teen births, and abortions* are all much lower than 20 years ago. Use of the pill, not sure about, but seems like it would be higher, especially for teens.


*For white people. Hispanics have dropped a bit and blacks haven't really moved at all looking at CDC figures. Looking at the published figures, you're correct though - they have dropped.

Pregnancy data is all based on surveys as far as I can tell, but like I said, haven't looked that closely.

Point is, if women are having fewer abortions because they're using more birth control, I wouldn't exactly call that virtuous.


Yeh, I don't feel like kids are more virtuous today than when I was in college. But, part of that may be that when I go back to BBurg, the girls today are all wearing short shorts, belly shirts, backless shirts, much more revealing than the LL Bean sweaters and turtlenecks all the girls were wearing in the early '90s.


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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:


Why today's teens are taking longer to grow up - CNN
https://apple.news/ALENf4liuQ2y0LYONM71ShQ


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Seems like they might be conflating teen pregnancies with teen births. Is there any reliable data on teen pregnancies?
Not the same thing. I'd assume use of the pill and abortion are higher than 20yrs ago.


Teen pregnancies, teen births, and abortions* are all much lower than 20 years ago. Use of the pill, not sure about, but seems like it would be higher, especially for teens.


*For white people. Hispanics have dropped a bit and blacks haven't really moved at all looking at CDC figures. Looking at the published figures, you're correct though - they have dropped.

Pregnancy data is all based on surveys as far as I can tell, but like I said, haven't looked that closely.

Point is, if women are having fewer abortions because they're using more birth control, I wouldn't exactly call that virtuous.


Yeh, I don't feel like kids are more virtuous today than when I was in college. But, part of that may be that when I go back to BBurg, the girls today are all wearing short shorts, belly shirts, backless shirts, much more revealing than the LL Bean sweaters and turtlenecks all the girls were wearing in the early '90s.
I hated those romper things. A lot of 80s and 90s styles stunk

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