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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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I told you that last year, you're just wrong and not skilled enough to play word games around that.

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I told you that last year, you're just wrong and not skilled enough to play word games around that.


And as we saw, ratings came back up last year after the election. If it was all Kaepernick, the ratings wouldn't have had that much of a spike.

This offseason has had a completely different dynamic and political charge to it. That's going to alienate people. Of course, it's not all because of one issue. Rule changes and sloppy play are contributing as well.


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So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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I told you that last year, you're just wrong and not skilled enough to play word games around that.


And as we saw, ratings came back up last year after the election. If it was all Kaepernick, the ratings wouldn't have had that much of a spike.

This offseason has had a completely different dynamic and political charge to it. That's going to alienate people. Of course, it's not all because of one issue. Rule changes and sloppy play are contributing as well.


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Another swing and a miss Ace. Better luck next time. It's hilarious how you're claiming the playoffs were really a late season return.

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nolanvt wrote:
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So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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I told you that last year, you're just wrong and not skilled enough to play word games around that.


And as we saw, ratings came back up last year after the election. If it was all Kaepernick, the ratings wouldn't have had that much of a spike.

This offseason has had a completely different dynamic and political charge to it. That's going to alienate people. Of course, it's not all because of one issue. Rule changes and sloppy play are contributing as well.


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Another swing and a miss Ace. Better luck next time. It's hilarious how you're claiming the playoffs were really a late season return.


The playoffs aren't in November.


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nolanvt wrote:
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Still can't admit you were just wrong.


So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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I told you that last year, you're just wrong and not skilled enough to play word games around that.


And as we saw, ratings came back up last year after the election. If it was all Kaepernick, the ratings wouldn't have had that much of a spike.

This offseason has had a completely different dynamic and political charge to it. That's going to alienate people. Of course, it's not all because of one issue. Rule changes and sloppy play are contributing as well.


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Another swing and a miss Ace. Better luck next time. It's hilarious how you're claiming the playoffs were really a late season return.


The playoffs aren't in November.


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That's when the typical late season viewership surge starts Dopey.

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nolanvt wrote:
Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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I agree that the cumulative effect has worn on the average sports fan. The continued move to the left by sports media and expanded players positions on politics have turned fans off. I think the Kap issue last year brought this front and center, and various activities since have taken it over the hump.


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nolanvt wrote:
Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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You're right, but how are you just now figuring this out? I remember back when Orin Hatch wanted to get involved in regulating the BCS because Utah was not part of a BCS conference. People on both the left and right said that politics needed to stay out of sports because sports is (was) one of the few things that could bring people together and make them forget about their political differences. Suddenly the left has forgotten or abandoned this notion. EVERYTHING has to be politicized now.

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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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You're right, but how are you just now figuring this out? I remember back when Orin Hatch wanted to get involved in regulating the BCS because Utah was not part of a BCS conference. People on both the left and right said that politics needed to stay out of sports because sports is (was) one of the few things that could bring people together and make them forget about their political differences. Suddenly the left has forgotten or abandoned this notion. EVERYTHING has to be politicized now.


Figuring what out? Politics in sports? I would generally prefer to separate them, and if I ran a team, I would tell my players that they can't engage in political activism on company time (e.g. No anthem protests), but are generally free to do what they wish on their own time within reason.


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nolanvt wrote:
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So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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you vehemently denied that last year, I can count on you for the flip flop though, get some principles dude


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nolanvt wrote:
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So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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you vehemently denied that last year, I can count on you for the flip flop though, get some principles dude
Correct.

But he was just trolling then as he's trolling now.

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nolanvt wrote:
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So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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I told you that last year, you're just wrong and not skilled enough to play word games around that.


And as we saw, ratings came back up last year after the election. If it was all Kaepernick, the ratings wouldn't have had that much of a spike.

This offseason has had a completely different dynamic and political charge to it. That's going to alienate people. Of course, it's not all because of one issue. Rule changes and sloppy play are contributing as well.


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Ratings did not come back up- you are lying. The good games might have been higher, but the week 15 Thursday game IIRC was the lowest rated TV game in 30 years. Stop lying. "ratings went back up" is bullshit. They stunk all year


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nolanvt wrote:
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Still can't admit you were just wrong.


So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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you vehemently denied that last year, I can count on you for the flip flop though, get some principles dude


I denied Kaepernick's impact last year because it didn't exist at that time based on the data.


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nolanvt wrote:
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nolanvt wrote:
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Still can't admit you were just wrong.


So you disagree politics is a problem currently in the NFL? Interesting.


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you vehemently denied that last year, I can count on you for the flip flop though, get some principles dude


I denied Kaepernick's impact last year because it didn't exist at that time based on the data.


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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Sports serves as a break from reality for many people. Infest it with political BS, and alienating customers is a forgone conclusion.

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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Compared to CTE, it is ridiculous to suggest that the NFL's political stance, to the extent it even exists, is even in the same conversation when considering the outlook of the league.


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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Sports serves as a break from reality for many people. Infest it with political BS, and alienating customers is a forgone conclusion.


The MLB and NBA players and league have introduced politics to the conversation, yet they are not having the same "problems."

That said, the NFL's popularity still exceeds baseball and basketball to a great extent.*


*But Richard Sherman and I know (along with the NFL) that this is due to gambling.


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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Sports serves as a break from reality for many people. Infest it with political BS, and alienating customers is a forgone conclusion.


The MLB and NBA players and league have introduced politics to the conversation, yet they are not having the same "problems."

That said, the NFL's popularity still exceeds baseball and basketball to a great extent.*


*But Richard Sherman and I know (along with the NFL) that this is due to gambling.


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I don't watch the NBA or MLB anymore.

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nolanvt wrote:
Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Sports serves as a break from reality for many people. Infest it with political BS, and alienating customers is a forgone conclusion.


The MLB and NBA players and league have introduced politics to the conversation, yet they are not having the same "problems."

That said, the NFL's popularity still exceeds baseball and basketball to a great extent.*


*But Richard Sherman and I know (along with the NFL) that this is due to gambling.


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I don't watch the NBA or MLB anymore.


Let me guess - because libruls?


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Last year, we saw Kaepernick take an impromptu knee to start his protest, but the lack of interest during the early part of the season was mostly due to the election given the ratings bounce back in Nov. Kaepernick's protesting at the time wasn't a significant factor because not enough fatigue had built up with the public, and more people watched football last year while Kap played than when he was on the bench.

This offseason and leading into this season, politics was ramped up into high gear with the Kaepernick nonsense, especially with ESPN leading the charge. I can see how part of the ratings decline this year can be attributed to politics because it's a completely different dynamic this year. I was completely fatigued by the whole thing and would rather not have politics in my sports.

Between politics, ESPN, and quite frankly, questionable rule changes and more sloppy play are hurting the NFL. Goodell is not doing enough to get these issues under control.


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Sports serves as a break from reality for many people. Infest it with political BS, and alienating customers is a forgone conclusion.


The MLB and NBA players and league have introduced politics to the conversation, yet they are not having the same "problems."

That said, the NFL's popularity still exceeds baseball and basketball to a great extent.*


*But Richard Sherman and I know (along with the NFL) that this is due to gambling.


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I don't watch the NBA or MLB anymore.


Let me guess - because libruls?


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Keep pretending that politics + sports is a winning formula. But no, I stopped watching the NBA because it bores me. Rules changes and too many playoff games have sapped my interest. I used to follow the MLB religiously, but the strikes killed my enthusiasm. Plus, the Reds suck.

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Keep pretending that politics + sports is a winning formula. But no, I stopped watching the NBA because it bores me. Rules changes and too many playoff games have sapped my interest. I used to follow the MLB religiously, but the strikes killed my enthusiasm. Plus, the Reds suck.
I haven't watched a NBA game on TV since the days of Elvin Hayes and Wes Unseld...I have seen a few Suns games in person but that was as a guest. I'm just not interested.

Even though I grew up playing baseball I can't watch one on TV...it's so boring on the tube. In the stands though I thoroughly enjoy it. Baseball, IMHO, doesn't translate well to TV. The same can be said for hockey.

I love watching football on the tube...right now I'm watching ECU@UConn...watching crappy college football teams to me is more entertaining than pro football most of the time.

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