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133743Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

Mcl3 Hokie wrote:Did you read the article I posted? It answers your question.

The ESPN NFL article? Yes I did. And it didn't answer the question at all. It addressed the NFLs position on why we (and the players) should respect the anthem, and I agree. But that isn't the issue I'm raising. Again, why is the anthem played at a football game to start with?

it's not about how one should act or behave when the anthem is played at a sporting event, but why it is played at the sporting event at all. Why are sports "special" in this way over other gatherings?

OK- let's take it one by one.. the board could use the traffic. I'm serious- let's go...

1. Why isn't the national anthem played before an age 8-10 girls soccer game in Montana? - your thoughts? let's analyze it, figure it out, then move to the next example.. shouldn't take long to cherry pick them all. Why do you think the Montana girls league doesn't play the anthem before girls 8-10 games?

I'll play your snarky game. It isn't played before an 8-10 year old girls soccer game in Montana because no one cares. You may not like that answer, but that's my opinion. No one gives it a thought; no one cares one way or another; and most would think it was pretty ridiculous, if not stupid, to do so.

So now, you get to try and answer my question -- again. And it isn't "why do we play the national anthem?", and it isn't "why do we do what we do to show respect when the anthem is played?". Those are all understood and accepted almost universally. It's "why do we play the anthem before professional sporting events?". What makes that setting special, unique, the one that warrants this treatment?

USN_Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

133743Hokie wrote: But why does that "unifying ritual" occur only before sporting events? Why not other gatherings? What makes sporting events so special? And if they aren't special, then why then but not at other events? THAT's the question that no one will (or can) answer.

The very question threatens some on here. I don't know why.


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I don't think the question threatens anyone on here. I just think they are confusing "why we respect the anthem and how we should act when it is played" with my question which is "why is it played at all before sporting events and not other gatherings".

Please list the "gatherings" one by one and let's discuss them/analyze them

Yeah, his argument assumes a false premise that it's only done before professional sporting events.

Hell, the resort my family goes to every year raises the flag and does the national anthem every morning before breakfast. Aka "nazism" according to IP.

awesome guy wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

Mcl3 Hokie wrote:Did you read the article I posted? It answers your question.

The ESPN NFL article? Yes I did. And it didn't answer the question at all. It addressed the NFLs position on why we (and the players) should respect the anthem, and I agree. But that isn't the issue I'm raising. Again, why is the anthem played at a football game to start with?

it's not about how one should act or behave when the anthem is played at a sporting event, but why it is played at the sporting event at all. Why are sports "special" in this way over other gatherings?

OK- let's take it one by one.. the board could use the traffic. I'm serious- let's go...

1. Why isn't the national anthem played before an age 8-10 girls soccer game in Montana? - your thoughts? let's analyze it, figure it out, then move to the next example.. shouldn't take long to cherry pick them all. Why do you think the Montana girls league doesn't play the anthem before girls 8-10 games?

I'll play your snarky game. It isn't played before an 8-10 year old girls soccer game in Montana because no one cares. You may not like that answer, but that's my opinion. No one gives it a thought; no one cares one way or another; and most would think it was pretty ridiculous, if not stupid, to do so.

So now, you get to try and answer my question -- again. And it isn't "why do we play the national anthem?", and it isn't "why do we do what we do to show respect when the anthem is played?". Those are all understood and accepted almost universally. It's "why do we play the anthem before professional sporting events?". What makes that setting special, unique, the one that warrants this treatment?

Not really. There isn't enough talent to sing it for each soccer game. It's played before pee wee and high school football games though.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

awesome guy wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

Mcl3 Hokie wrote:Did you read the article I posted? It answers your question.

The ESPN NFL article? Yes I did. And it didn't answer the question at all. It addressed the NFLs position on why we (and the players) should respect the anthem, and I agree. But that isn't the issue I'm raising. Again, why is the anthem played at a football game to start with?

it's not about how one should act or behave when the anthem is played at a sporting event, but why it is played at the sporting event at all. Why are sports "special" in this way over other gatherings?

OK- let's take it one by one.. the board could use the traffic. I'm serious- let's go...

1. Why isn't the national anthem played before an age 8-10 girls soccer game in Montana? - your thoughts? let's analyze it, figure it out, then move to the next example.. shouldn't take long to cherry pick them all. Why do you think the Montana girls league doesn't play the anthem before girls 8-10 games?

I'll play your snarky game. It isn't played before an 8-10 year old girls soccer game in Montana because no one cares. You may not like that answer, but that's my opinion. No one gives it a thought; no one cares one way or another; and most would think it was pretty ridiculous, if not stupid, to do so.

So now, you get to try and answer my question -- again. And it isn't "why do we play the national anthem?", and it isn't "why do we do what we do to show respect when the anthem is played?". Those are all understood and accepted almost universally. It's "why do we play the anthem before professional sporting events?". What makes that setting special, unique, the one that warrants this treatment?

Not really. There isn't enough talent to sing it for each soccer game. It's played before pee wee and high school football games though.

They could play a recording.


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133743Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

Mcl3 Hokie wrote:Did you read the article I posted? It answers your question.

The ESPN NFL article? Yes I did. And it didn't answer the question at all. It addressed the NFLs position on why we (and the players) should respect the anthem, and I agree. But that isn't the issue I'm raising. Again, why is the anthem played at a football game to start with?

it's not about how one should act or behave when the anthem is played at a sporting event, but why it is played at the sporting event at all. Why are sports "special" in this way over other gatherings?

OK- let's take it one by one.. the board could use the traffic. I'm serious- let's go...

1. Why isn't the national anthem played before an age 8-10 girls soccer game in Montana? - your thoughts? let's analyze it, figure it out, then move to the next example.. shouldn't take long to cherry pick them all. Why do you think the Montana girls league doesn't play the anthem before girls 8-10 games?

I'll play your snarky game. It isn't played before an 8-10 year old girls soccer game in Montana because no one cares. You may not like that answer, but that's my opinion. No one gives it a thought; no one cares one way or another; and most would think it was pretty ridiculous, if not stupid, to do so.

So now, you get to try and answer my question -- again. And it isn't "why do we play the national anthem?", and it isn't "why do we do what we do to show respect when the anthem is played?". Those are all understood and accepted almost universally. It's "why do we play the anthem before professional sporting events?". What makes that setting special, unique, the one that warrants this treatment?

ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

133743Hokie wrote: But why does that "unifying ritual" occur only before sporting events? Why not other gatherings? What makes sporting events so special? And if they aren't special, then why then but not at other events? THAT's the question that no one will (or can) answer.

The very question threatens some on here. I don't know why.


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I don't think the question threatens anyone on here. I just think they are confusing "why we respect the anthem and how we should act when it is played" with my question which is "why is it played at all before sporting events and not other gatherings".

Please list the "gatherings" one by one and let's discuss them/analyze them

Yeah, his argument assumes a false premise that it's only done before professional sporting events.

Hell, the resort my family goes to every year raises the flag and does the national anthem every morning before breakfast. Aka "nazism" according to IP.

You have misrepresented my earlier comments, but the resort thing is kind of weird in my humble opinion. Different strokes.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

CFB Apologist wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

133743Hokie wrote: But why does that "unifying ritual" occur only before sporting events? Why not other gatherings? What makes sporting events so special? And if they aren't special, then why then but not at other events? THAT's the question that no one will (or can) answer.

The very question threatens some on here. I don't know why.


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I don't think the question threatens anyone on here. I just think they are confusing "why we respect the anthem and how we should act when it is played" with my question which is "why is it played at all before sporting events and not other gatherings".

Please list the "gatherings" one by one and let's discuss them/analyze them

Yeah, his argument assumes a false premise that it's only done before professional sporting events.

Hell, the resort my family goes to every year raises the flag and does the national anthem every morning before breakfast. Aka "nazism" according to IP.

You have misrepresented my earlier comments, but the resort thing is kind of weird in my humble opinion. Different strokes.


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nolanvt wrote: Yeah. Unless that resort is catered to military or something like that, I would find that bizarre.


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