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While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

Not sure. I hope he stays. That said, I think the military and ex-military guys on staff have more of an Obama/left/democrat slant than I'm happy with, and they seem to have a huge influence on him.

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

It would suck. Tillerson has been pretty good IMO. Not sure who would replace him, but probably someone worse, and needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

Stability isn't this administration's thing. I like Rex and am glad he's battled Trump as long as he has.


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I actually think it is good to have a counter balance between the POTUS and the SOS, as long as they communicate. Ultimately it is the POTUS call and the SOS needs to defer, but conflicting views and perspectives are positive things. Nothing in diplomacy is black and white.

nolanvt wrote:Stability isn't this administration's thing. I like Rex and am glad he's battled Trump as long as he has.


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Sadly, Corker's assessment about the White House being an adult day care center appears accurate by all accounts.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:Stability isn't this administration's thing. I like Rex and am glad he's battled Trump as long as he has.


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Sadly, Corker's assessment about the White House being an adult day care center appears accurate by all accounts.


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Like being in the senate -- 100 spoiled brats that don't play well with others in the sandbox, think their excrement doesn't stink, and all think they are Gods gift to the world!

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Not gonna defend what he said, but it came off more as a poor joke than anything to me.

USN_Hokie wrote:

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Not gonna defend what he said, but it came off more as a poor joke than anything to me.

That's probably his best defense.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

you may want to take what you read in the MSM with a grain of salt

ip_law-hokie wrote: That's probably his best defense.


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Maybe he's like Joe Biden without the creepy sexual predator vibe....

cwtcr hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

you may want to take what you read in the MSM with a grain of salt

Do you think it's all a fabrication?


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ip_law-hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:Stability isn't this administration's thing. I like Rex and am glad he's battled Trump as long as he has.


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Sadly, Corker's assessment about the White House being an adult day care center appears accurate by all accounts.


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Corker is a swamp creature. Don't trust him as far as I can throw him.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

you may want to take what you read in the MSM with a grain of salt

Do you think it's all a fabrication?


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according to the MSM everyone in gov. would have quit by now and Trump would have been impeached by now..... just saying that the bullcrap lies are published every day and you know it

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Trump is a braggart type guy....duh

He is also real and says what he wants to, rather refreshing for politicians. As for Corker, that guy should have resigned a long time ago, he is not representing his people

cwtcr hokie wrote:

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Trump is a braggart type guy....duh

He is also real and says what he wants to, rather refreshing for politicians. As for Corker, that guy should have resigned a long time ago, he is not representing his people

Refreshing for someone to be so petty!
Good leadership is berating people publicly that work for you!

He has it all!

cwtcr hokie wrote:

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Trump is a braggart type guy....duh

He is also real and says what he wants to, rather refreshing for politicians. As for Corker, that guy should have resigned a long time ago, he is not representing his people

Refreshing for someone to be so petty!
Good leadership is berating people publicly that work for you!

He has it all![/quote]

For Sessions he should be berated, he effed up royally letting Mueller get going and exactly when has he berated Tillerson? All I have heard is that they disagreed on NK somewhat, no berating tho

cwtcr hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:
needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Trump is a braggart type guy....duh

He is also real and says what he wants to, rather refreshing for politicians. As for Corker, that guy should have resigned a long time ago, he is not representing his people

Refreshing for someone to be so petty!
Good leadership is berating people publicly that work for you!

He has it all!

For Sessions he should be berated, he effed up royally letting Mueller get going and exactly when has he berated Tillerson? All I have heard is that they disagreed on NK somewhat, no berating tho[/quote]
Actually it sounds like Tillerson is the one that bad mouthed Trump.

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

With Trump, unfortunately yes. But, as long as he keeps chipping away at the Obeezy legacy I can somewhat get over it. Oh, and Hillary isn’t President......and to see her reactions is just priceless.

While I like Tillerson, he does not seem to be fully on board the MAGA train, so if he leaves, so be it. But I hope he takes that turd HR McMaster with him.

cwtcr hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Trump is a braggart type guy....duh

He is also real and says what he wants to, rather refreshing for politicians. As for Corker, that guy should have resigned a long time ago, he is not representing his people

Refreshing for someone to be so petty!
Good leadership is berating people publicly that work for you!

He has it all!

For Sessions he should be berated, he effed up royally letting Mueller get going and exactly when has he berated Tillerson? All I have heard is that they disagreed on NK somewhat, no berating tho[/quote]

Saying that they disagreed somewhat is a huge understatement, given the low class manner in which Trump went about airing his disagreement. And I assure that Trump's twitter tirade about Tillerson wasting his time was viewed to this corporate guy as the lowest class move possible.

I disagree with Tillerson politically, but he has earned the right to be treated with more respect. He is more fit for the job than his boss. All, except the staunchest of Trump supporters, accept this.


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cwtcr hokie wrote:

BG Hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:While the earlier reports of tension were dismissed, I don't think one can deny the tension that currently exists between the two. I hope Tillerson will continue to swallow his pride and better personal judgment for the good of the country.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/10/politics/ ... index.html

needs to be someone who can push back against Trump, and cover for his silliness.

and that's going to draw Trump's ire, whoever it is.

I’m hoping for a IQ test duel.

What kind of thin skinned middle schooler responds with who has the bigger IQ? (I'd bet against Trump for what it's worth) I mean, we would laugh at someone on a message board doing that. Can you imagine the POTUS saying something so immature?

Trump is a braggart type guy....duh

He is also real and says what he wants to, rather refreshing for politicians. As for Corker, that guy should have resigned a long time ago, he is not representing his people

Refreshing for someone to be so petty!
Good leadership is berating people publicly that work for you!

He has it all![/quote]

For Sessions he should be berated, he effed up royally letting Mueller get going and exactly when has he berated Tillerson? All I have heard is that they disagreed on NK somewhat, no berating tho[/quote]

Saying that they disagreed somewhat is a huge understatement, given the low class manner in which Trump went about airing his disagreement. And I assure that Trump's twitter tirade about Tillerson wasting his time was viewed to this corporate guy as the lowest class move possible.

I disagree with Tillerson politically, but he has earned the right to be treated with more respect. He is more fit for the job than his boss. All, except the staunchest of Trump supporters, accept this.


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actually in the corp. world vigorous disagreements happen all the time, it has occurred in my career before...its called life