George Washington’s Church to Remove His Memorial...

[awesome guy]

I have no problems with you practicing Christianity. Any assertions that I want to restrict religious freedoms are FAKE NEWS.


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Right, you just use public schools to indoctrinate children contrary to their religious beliefs.

How does this one go?


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I suppose you're going to pretend you didn't say that now?

I don't recall a Breaking Bad episode that dealt with honesty and integrity, so I understand how this is a new thing for you.

Gonna chalk this one in the USN Making Shirt Up column. [emoji106]


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As called the "Truths Nolan Denies" column.

[USN_Hokie]

Far be it for me to not pile on, but I’ll point out a couple of things:

1) the plaques will be moved to another part of the church
2) the altar is to worship God, not previous members

This is a lie.

1. They will be moved "to a new place." That could be the garbage, but it's not at all clear that they will be publicly displayed at all, let alone in the church.
2. This is a lefty talking point trying to imply that they're part of the altar to be worshiped (the WaPo article repeats it). This is a lie. They are plaques bearing their signatures - marking the pews where they prayed during services. WaPo tries to be too cute by describing this as "either side of the altar" - yes, pews are on either side of the altar. The statement is a lie based on what it purposely omits.

[USN_Hokie]

I have no problems with you practicing Christianity. Any assertions that I want to restrict religious freedoms are FAKE NEWS.


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Right, you just use public schools to indoctrinate children contrary to their religious beliefs.

How does this one go?


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I suppose you're going to pretend you didn't say that now?

I don't recall a Breaking Bad episode that dealt with honesty and integrity, so I understand how this is a new thing for you.

Gonna chalk this one in the USN Making Shirt Up column. [emoji106]


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I'll pray for there to be an episode of Game of Thrones next season which concerns honesty and integrity so that you can eventually develop a familiarity with the concept.

[Bay_area_Hokie]

Hopefully the Church will suffer enormous financial effects from this. I don’t see libs being the big donars to an old church, but could be wrong. I would assume it is held together by old money families in Alexandria, as there are many there. It is likely funds will dry up. All churches are run by a board of some kind and if they have a brain, they will replace the hyphen and return to normal.


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[USN_Hokie]

Hopefully the Church will suffer enormous financial effects from this. I don’t see libs being the big donars to an old church, but could be wrong. I would assume it is held together by old money families in Alexandria, as there are many there. It is likely funds will dry up. All churches are run by a board of some kind and if they have a brain, they will replace the hyphen and return to normal.


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A quick search reveals this church is living off of trust funds and endowments made by people who died a long time ago (including, it appears, Robert E. Lee... ironically). Their donations are and have been dwindling by the year, while they employ a staff of 18 people (including clergy...almost entirely women aside from cleaning staff, by the way) for a church which doesn't even see 500 parishioners a week.

[awesome guy]

Hopefully the Church will suffer enormous financial effects from this. I don’t see libs being the big donars to an old church, but could be wrong. I would assume it is held together by old money families in Alexandria, as there are many there. It is likely funds will dry up. All churches are run by a board of some kind and if they have a brain, they will replace the hyphen and return to normal.


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A quick search reveals this church is living off of trust funds and endowments made by people who died a long time ago (including, it appears, Robert E. Lee... ironically). Their donations are and have been dwindling by the year, while they employ a staff of 18 people (including clergy...almost entirely women aside from cleaning staff, by the way) for a church which doesn't even see 500 parishioners a week.

So liberal leeches attached themselves to a money source and bleed it dry. Color me shocked.

[HokieHam]

A quick perusal of their website and twitter feed confirms this church has voted itself into complete left-wing nutjobbery

I’m shocked that an Episcopal Church may not share similar positions and views as Jerry Falwell.


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Yeah, but they could at least study and follow the Bible.

I have a few other works of Fiction on my reading list before I get to the Bible. Now, just to make sure that this doesn’t sound like I’m picking on Christianity, the other religions are bullshit, too. My serious belief is that there probably is a higher power of some sort, but I seriously doubt that Jesus had the magic powers that his followers claimed to have had.


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Doubt all you want......but witnesses died for following Him. THAT does not seem rational.

THat is just one reason I believe.

[HokieHam]

A quick perusal of their website and twitter feed confirms this church has voted itself into complete left-wing nutjobbery

I’m shocked that an Episcopal Church may not similar positions and views as Jerry Falwell.


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These are not churches.......they are indoctrination centers filled with false teachers.

As opposed to the churches that aren’t indoctrination centers, got it.


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Go on.........

Please.......go on. I want to hear this.......

[HokieHam]

I have no problems with you practicing Christianity. Any assertions that I want to restrict religious freedoms are FAKE NEWS.

Says the guy who wants to punish a baker who refuses to bake a cake and expend him to re-education Camp......

[nolanvt]

A quick perusal of their website and twitter feed confirms this church has voted itself into complete left-wing nutjobbery

I’m shocked that an Episcopal Church may not share similar positions and views as Jerry Falwell.


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Yeah, but they could at least study and follow the Bible.

I have a few other works of Fiction on my reading list before I get to the Bible. Now, just to make sure that this doesn’t sound like I’m picking on Christianity, the other religions are bullshit, too. My serious belief is that there probably is a higher power of some sort, but I seriously doubt that Jesus had the magic powers that his followers claimed to have had.


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Doubt all you want......but witnesses died for following Him. THAT does not seem rational.

THat is just one reason I believe.

Not saying Jesus was a loon, but there are some unsavory figures in history who had blindly loyal followers as well.


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[USN_Hokie]

Not saying Jesus was a loon, but there are some unsavory figures in history who had blindly loyal followers as well.


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You either have faith, or you don't. It's as simple as that.

If God was completely comprehensible to the average person there wouldn't be anything that requires faith. Without faith, there is no test for belief. Faith is critical to Christianity.

[HokieJoe]

WTF? What kind of coward who is charged with the stewardship of such an important historical landmark would cave to this kind of PC pressure?

"The Rev. Noelle York-Simmons, rector of the church...."

Just a guess, but it might have something to do with the new rector with the hyphenated last name........



Oh, and the church's Senior Associate rector starred on 90210 and brings 12yrs of experience as a Yoga instructor to the ministry:

Ann Gillespie

SENIOR ASSOCIATE RECTOR

Ann is Senior Associate Rector. Ann brings to parish ministry a 20-year career as an actress in television and theater and 12 years as a yoga teacher.

Although currently an Episcopal priest with a passion for pastoral care, Ann Gillespie has had a long career in film, television and theater. Most notably, she appeared throughout the ‘90’s as Jackie Taylor, Kelly’s mom, on the hit television show, Beverly Hills, 90210. After becoming a priest, she reprised her role as Jackie on the new 90210 series.

Theater has always been her first love, but Star Trek fans may remember her recurring roles on Deep Space 9, and The Next Generation. She also guest starred on series such as Gilmore Girls, Judging Amy, and ER. She appeared as Fonzie’s girlfriend on the last season of Happy Days as well as starred in the TV movies, Living Proof about Country Western singer Hank Williams, and Kent State, the Emmy-winning miniseries about the 1970 shootings.

In the new millennium, Ann embarked on a new calling and in 2004, she and her family moved to Alexandria, Virginia, for her to attend seminary at Virginia Theological Seminary. She graduated with an M. Div. in 2007. She has been an Associate Rector at Christ Episcopal Church in Alexandria since 2007.

http://www.historicchristchurch.org/about-us/clergy/

Can't make this shirt up.

F that stupid b!tch.

[HokieJoe]

Hopefully the Church will suffer enormous financial effects from this. I don’t see libs being the big donars to an old church, but could be wrong. I would assume it is held together by old money families in Alexandria, as there are many there. It is likely funds will dry up. All churches are run by a board of some kind and if they have a brain, they will replace the hyphen and return to normal.


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Yep, this church deserves to go under. The 'pastor' should be defrocked; and the obviously worthless congregation who advocated for this BS should be kicked out of the church. They should be ashamed of themselves.

[RiverguyVT]

A quick perusal of their website and twitter feed confirms this church has voted itself into complete left-wing nutjobbery

I’m shocked that an Episcopal Church may not share similar positions and views as Jerry Falwell.


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What the San hell does Falwell have to do with anything!!?

[HokieHam]

Not saying Jesus was a loon, but there are some unsavory figures in history who had blindly loyal followers as well.


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You either have faith, or you don't. It's as simple as that.

If God was completely comprehensible to the average person there wouldn't be anything that requires faith. Without faith, there is no test for belief. Faith is critical to Christianity.

Yup. We are justified by faith, given freely by Gods grace.

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9

[HokieHam]

Not saying Jesus was a loon, but there are some unsavory figures in history who had blindly loyal followers as well.

10 of the Apostles were martyred. They weren’t blindly following Him. There were many witnesses to His miracles and death and resurrection. The Scriptures use the testimony of women, something totally foreign then. Luke is considered a great historian of the times and his details in his gospel and Acts are incredible. You should read them.....

It’s not just that though......if you have been saved and had your eyes opened to the truth, it’s the Word. When you can see Him in all of the OT and it’s constant pointing to Him......

[RiverguyVT]

In what universe.. even a far left communist one.... in what universe is a statue of George Washington.. “unsafe”??. I am asking a serious question. What person entering that church is in danger of anything with that memorial? Is the memorial going to come to life and be mean to a tranny? Serious question

Socialism is their religion.
It's that simple.

[RiverguyVT]

Where in the Bible does it say to mock it as a work of fiction and equate it to other advertised works of fiction?

We have an entire generation of smug, moral relativist sociopaths - and you're a shining example.

Pssst, I don’t use the Bible as my guide for what to do, what’s right and wrong, etc.


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Given the fact that it is the guiding document for the philosophy that built Western Civilization, perhaps it would be wise to understand it more than you obviously do. But then again, wisdom is not exactly your forte is it?

He's gotten worse with time.
I wouldn't trust him to read & understand the instructions to "Chutes and Ladders".

[RiverguyVT]

I have no problems with you practicing Christianity. Any assertions that I want to restrict religious freedoms are FAKE NEWS.

Says the guy who wants to punish a baker who refuses to bake a cake and expend him to re-education Camp......

[HvilleHokie]

Far be it for me to not pile on, but I’ll point out a couple of things:

1) the plaques will be moved to another part of the church
2) the altar is to worship God, not previous members

This is a lie.

1. They will be moved "to a new place." That could be the garbage, but it's not at all clear that they will be publicly displayed at all, let alone in the church.
2. This is a lefty talking point trying to imply that they're part of the altar to be worshiped (the WaPo article repeats it). This is a lie. They are plaques bearing their signatures - marking the pews where they prayed during services. WaPo tries to be too cute by describing this as "either side of the altar" - yes, pews are on either side of the altar. The statement is a lie based on what it purposely omits.

Once again, you are actually the one lying...

The plaques are on the wall on either side of the alter...







And there is no reason to think they won’t display them elsewhere... just not at the alter.

[USN_Hokie]

Far be it for me to not pile on, but I’ll point out a couple of things:

1) the plaques will be moved to another part of the church
2) the altar is to worship God, not previous members

This is a lie.

1. They will be moved "to a new place." That could be the garbage, but it's not at all clear that they will be publicly displayed at all, let alone in the church.
2. This is a lefty talking point trying to imply that they're part of the altar to be worshiped (the WaPo article repeats it). This is a lie. They are plaques bearing their signatures - marking the pews where they prayed during services. WaPo tries to be too cute by describing this as "either side of the altar" - yes, pews are on either side of the altar. The statement is a lie based on what it purposely omits.

Once again, you are actually the one lying...

The plaques are on the wall on either side of the alter...







And there is no reason to think they won’t display them elsewhere... just not at the alter.

I took my picture straight from an MSM article on the subject, maybe you should take it up with them. Either way, your characterization that they're in a place where they're worshiped during service is a lie.

PS - it's altar. Though your spelling is ironically appropriate for a church where everyone votes on what the Bible says.

[133743Hokie]

Those aren't at the altar At best they are on a side aisle. They aren't even in your vision if you are looking at tge altar. Much ado about nothing.

[HvilleHokie]

Far be it for me to not pile on, but I’ll point out a couple of things:

1) the plaques will be moved to another part of the church
2) the altar is to worship God, not previous members

This is a lie.

1. They will be moved "to a new place." That could be the garbage, but it's not at all clear that they will be publicly displayed at all, let alone in the church.
2. This is a lefty talking point trying to imply that they're part of the altar to be worshiped (the WaPo article repeats it). This is a lie. They are plaques bearing their signatures - marking the pews where they prayed during services. WaPo tries to be too cute by describing this as "either side of the altar" - yes, pews are on either side of the altar. The statement is a lie based on what it purposely omits.

Once again, you are actually the one lying...

The plaques are on the wall on either side of the alter...







And there is no reason to think they won’t display them elsewhere... just not at the alter.

I took my picture straight from an MSM article on the subject, maybe you should take it up with them. Either way, your characterization that they're in a place where they're worshiped during service is a lie.

PS - it's altar. Though your spelling is ironically appropriate for a church where everyone votes on what the Bible says.

Lol! Nice deflection by someone accusing someone of lying. I didn’t know! It was just what I read! I can’t be bothered to fact check everything when I accuse others of lying!!

[RiverguyVT]

Either one appears to be a good 8'-10' from the altar.
Maybe more?

Anyone else reminded of the Wren Cross @ W&M?

[Vienna_Hokie]

In what universe.. even a far left communist one.... in what universe is a statue of George Washington.. “unsafe”??. I am asking a serious question. What person entering that church is in danger of anything with that memorial? Is the memorial going to come to life and be mean to a tranny? Serious question

Well if a statue were to topple onto someone that was trying to pull it down because it offended them I guess it would be a danger

But, these aren't even statues, they are plaques.