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...he watched his father beat and rape (yes, rape) his older brother as a child.

Is there any real doubt that nurture (learned) component to sexuality (really.... all social behaviors) is quite large?
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I read this morning that Trump planted both the Spacey story and is involved in yesterdays attack to distract from Meuller. Yes, I read both of those- and a good number of them on Twitter
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CFB Apologist wrote:I read this morning that Trump planted both the Spacey story and is involved in yesterdays attack to distract from Meuller. Yes, I read both of those- and a good number of them on Twitter
You need to follow better people on twitter.

I once heard that Obama was born in Kenya. There's some crazy crap out there from fringe people.
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CFB Apologist wrote:I read this morning that Trump planted both the Spacey story and is involved in yesterdays attack to distract from Meuller. Yes, I read both of those- and a good number of them on Twitter
You need to follow better people on twitter.

I once heard that Obama was born in Kenya. There's some crazy crap out there from fringe people.
The Kenya thing has finally been confirmed BTW.

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/na ... 107226336/



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USN_Hokie wrote:...he watched his father beat and rape (yes, rape) his older brother as a child.

Is there any real doubt that nurture (learned) component to sexuality (really.... all social behaviors) is quite large?
That's pretty f'd up if true.

Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
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TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I agreed with you. One sentence comment, one sentence response, seemed at least adequate.
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
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USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
that is proven to be false all the time, point is spacey should be flaming homo if it affected him that bad. He is totally bi-sexual as he says he bangs men and women and likes both.
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
that is proven to be false all the time, point is spacey should be flaming homo if it affected him that bad. He is totally bi-sexual as he says he bangs men and women and likes both.
Not sure what "proven to be false all the time" means, but there have been several studies showing correlation between obese parents (either one, or both) and obese children, with a higher correlation when both parents are obese.

As for Spacey's sexuality, I'm not sure that banging men and women and liking both, is better than being gay or straight. Seems to me that is the most messed up scenario.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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Epigenetics, maybe...but that's getting too far into the weeds. All the obese blacks out there aren't that way because Africans were fat, though.

This isn't about obesity, though.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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Epigenetics, maybe...but that's getting too far into the weeds. All the obese blacks out there aren't that way because Africans were fat, though.

This isn't about obesity, though.
It would be silly to deny that there is a genetic component to obesity. . . .
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote: C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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Epigenetics, maybe...but that's getting too far into the weeds. All the obese blacks out there aren't that way because Africans were fat, though.

This isn't about obesity, though.
It would be silly to deny that there is a genetic component to obesity. . . .
Only in a secondary sense in any meaningful way. For example - Low IQ correlates to high incidence of obesity:

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IQ is in large part heritable, but the real cause here is that stupid people aren't as good at controlling their diets in the same way that they're bad at controlling their spending.
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cwtcr hokie wrote:.... point is spacey should be flaming homo if it affected him that bad. He is totally bi-sexual as he says he bangs men and women and likes both.
1. Lol, what makes you think he isn't? All of a sudden you think the dude who tried to bang a 14yo is the virgin Mary and 100% truthful?

2. His dad was married to his mom until he died, so I'd say that "bisexual" (I don't think it's a real thing, myself) would be a good mirror of his dad here - or a good mirror of his persona to be more precise.
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CFB Apologist wrote:I read this morning that Trump planted both the Spacey story and is involved in yesterdays attack to distract from Meuller. Yes, I read both of those- and a good number of them on Twitter
The rumors about Spacey's Dad have been on the internet for a few years.

There is definitely a strong correlation between child predators undergoing the same treatment as a child.
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More Allegations of Sexual Misconduct Surface Against Kevin Spacey

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TheH2 wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote: Yes, life experiences effect all aspects of our life.
C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I agreed with you. One sentence comment, one sentence response, seemed at least adequate.
Fair enough - my point might not have been clear. I think nurture/environment is the (pre)dominant factor in pedophiles.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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Epigenetics, maybe...but that's getting too far into the weeds. All the obese blacks out there aren't that way because Africans were fat, though.

This isn't about obesity, though.
It would be silly to deny that there is a genetic component to obesity. . . .
Only in a secondary sense in any meaningful way. For example - Low IQ correlates to high incidence of obesity:

Image

IQ is in large part heritable, but the real cause here is that stupid people aren't as good at controlling their diets in the same way that they're bad at controlling their spending.
Coming from someone who has always been able to eat as much as they want without gaining weight, you must find me to be really smart. And all tall and skinny people in my family are also smart.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
Coming from someone who has always been able to eat as much as they want without gaining weight, you must find me to be really smart. And all tall and skinny people in my family are also smart.
Don't worry, we're not speaking in absolutes. There's room for dumb skinny people in this world too. :geek:

Maybe IP has a tapeworm? :mrgreen:
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USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Coming from someone who has always been able to eat as much as they want without gaining weight, you must find me to be really smart. And all tall and skinny people in my family are also smart.
Don't worry, we're not speaking in absolutes. There's room for dumb skinny people in this world too. :geek:

Maybe IP has a tapeworm? :mrgreen:
I thought you were on to something for once.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote: C'mon - that's a cop out answer...
I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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Epigenetics, maybe...but that's getting too far into the weeds. All the obese blacks out there aren't that way because Africans were fat, though.

This isn't about obesity, though.
It would be silly to deny that there is a genetic component to obesity. . . .
But, if it was mostly genetic, obesity rates wouldn't be going through the roof. The average women now weighs what the average man weighed in the 60s for example.


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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: I don't buy it, all humans have the ability to think. So per Spacey he is bi-sexual, males and females, so him seeing his father be a butt head pervert caused Spacey to be bi-sexual?
Why do you think children of obese parents are more likely to be obese themselves?
Genes and lack of instilled food discipline.


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Epigenetics, maybe...but that's getting too far into the weeds. All the obese blacks out there aren't that way because Africans were fat, though.

This isn't about obesity, though.
It would be silly to deny that there is a genetic component to obesity. . . .
But, if it was mostly genetic, obesity rates wouldn't be going through the roof. The average women now weighs what the average man weighed in the 60s for example.


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I have no idea what the breakdown is at the various levels of being overweight and morbid obesity, if there were a way to measure it. I would argue that it trends more to the genetic when you include only the morbidly obese. But There’s also a good amount of ‘food as a drug’ type substance abusers in this group, I admit.

If we are including those that are just overweight, I agree it’s more nurture than nature. To your point, I wonder if it’s more that our caloric intake has increased, or our average physical activity has decreased. Obviously both have occurred.


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The genetics involved are humans are designed to store fat for leaner times. Every day foods are calorie dense; and we have lots of relative leisure time, so the lean times never come. There very likely are genetic and epigenetic reasons for some people's obesity, but it isn't the norm.
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