Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:52 pm
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I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
That's a solid take.BigDave wrote:Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
Yeh, it's really a miracle that he came that close.Major Kong wrote:I didn't expect Cousin Ed to win.
I actually thought Jill Vogel would have done better. I didn't think Adams would win either.HokieFanDC wrote:Yeh, it's really a miracle that he came that close.Major Kong wrote:I didn't expect Cousin Ed to win.
Additionally, the democrats came out in force for the election so their numbers were gonna be good.BigDave wrote:Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
The illegals and fellons were a big boost.133743Hokie wrote:Additionally, the democrats came out in force for the election so their numbers were gonna be good.BigDave wrote:Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
BigDave wrote:Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
I'm still convinced that McAuliffe directed the police in a way to maximize the conflict and violence that occurred that day. And he did this to get those nuts angry and motivated to vote against Republicans. And just like they always do, the dupes fell for it hook line & sinker. Manipulating crazy people has become an art form for crooked Democrats like McAuliffe.HokieJoe wrote:Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.
Trump got more than a half million votes more than Gillespie. Also, Northam beat Hillary by a much larger margin % wise. It's really hard to do apples:apples between presidential elections and state/midterms.BigDave wrote: Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
...but Cuccinelli wore a lapel pin which didn't have exposed nipples. Guess we had no choice but stay home or vote for the guy who calls himself a libertarian and is funded (coincidentally) by the left!RiverguyVT wrote:BigDave wrote:Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
Well, he isn't a criminal like McAuliffe, which is more directly relevant to VA. I remain amazed our state elected TerryM. Combo of ignorance, & or just not knowing 1990s recent history. Treason is no small matter.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Trump got more votes but turnout is much higher for a Presidential election.USN_Hokie wrote:Trump got more than a half million votes more than Gillespie. Also, Northam beat Hillary by a much larger margin % wise. It's really hard to do apples:apples between presidential elections and state/midterms.BigDave wrote: Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
If you're running in a swamp land states like NY, NJ, and VA, then yes. You have to overcome a lot of low info and illegal votes in states like that.ip_law-hokie wrote:That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
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Better off in more prosperous states like SC.UpstateSCHokie wrote:If you're running in a swamp land states like NY, NJ, and VA, then yes. You have to overcome a lot of low info and illegal votes in states like that.ip_law-hokie wrote:That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
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.....or a conservative with core principles and values that is not part of the entrenched establishment. Of course that isn't going to happen because the party won't let them in.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Starting the day off with an agreeable post from IP!ip_law-hokie wrote:That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
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You're really missing it. The requirement is someone that punches back. Trump satisfies that. Granted it's better with polish like we had with Reagan, but that falls into the nice to have bucket.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Yep.UpstateSCHokie wrote:I'm still convinced that McAuliffe directed the police in a way to maximize the conflict and violence that occurred that day. And he did this to get those nuts angry and motivated to vote against Republicans. And just like they always do, the dupes fell for it hook line & sinker. Manipulating crazy people has become an art form for crooked Democrats like McAuliffe.HokieJoe wrote:Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.
Also known as low information voters.HokieJoe wrote:Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.
133743Hokie wrote:.....or a conservative with core principles and values that is not part of the entrenched establishment. Of course that isn't going to happen because the party won't let them in.BG Hokie wrote:So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.WestEndHokie39 wrote:I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.