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cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

That's incorrect.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

That's incorrect.

Show us the proof

HokieJoe wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

That's incorrect.

Show us the proof

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+cleetus+correct ... harassment

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

btw, I am not a hypocrite, I say the same about all the folks accused, only one proven so far is Louis CK as he admitted to his acts, and the picture of Franken

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

Umm...yes.

"touched her vagina through her underwear,"
"started putting his hand up [her] skirt."

Sure, nothing's been proven. And nothing's been proven on Franken, or most of the other people being accused.

Which goes back to the original point I made, you dorks hold Trump to the standard of "proof", but no one else.

IIWII.

As for accusations...one accusation very flimsy. A dozen? Have to give it some credence, especially giving that his boasting mirrors the exact complaints.

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

Umm...yes.

"touched her vagina through her underwear,"
"started putting his hand up [her] skirt."

Sure, nothing's been proven. And nothing's been proven on Franken, or most of the other people being accused.

Which goes back to the original point I made, you dorks hold Trump to the standard of "proof", but no one else.

IIWII.

As for accusations...one accusation very flimsy. A dozen? Have to give it some credence, especially giving that his boasting mirrors the exact complaints.[/quote]

sorry reading is hard for you, see my statement about all the accusations......fyi, the number of accusations is meaningless. Again if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddle 12 YO boys that makes it true....correct? Or better yet, myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled all of us....that makes it true I guess

fyi, guess you missed the picture of Franken on the plane...next

one more edit, so the article says he raped them, forcing penetration? or was it consensual at the time and it is not now. You do realize some wimminz don't have any issue using their bodies to get ahead in life.... and you wonder why hawt chicks are hooked up with some rich ugly dude.... hmmmm. But of course the story may change if things don't work out as expected

cwtcr hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:
No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

Umm...yes.

"touched her vagina through her underwear,"
"started putting his hand up [her] skirt."

Sure, nothing's been proven. And nothing's been proven on Franken, or most of the other people being accused.

Which goes back to the original point I made, you dorks hold Trump to the standard of "proof", but no one else.

IIWII.

As for accusations...one accusation very flimsy. A dozen? Have to give it some credence, especially giving that his boasting mirrors the exact complaints.

sorry reading is hard for you, see my statement about all the accusations......fyi, the number of accusations is meaningless. Again if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddle 12 YO boys that makes it true....correct? Or better yet, myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled all of us....that makes it true I guess

fyi, guess you missed the picture of Franken on the plane...next

one more edit, so the article says he raped them, forcing penetration? or was it consensual at the time and it is not now. You do realize some wimminz don't have any issue using their bodies to get ahead in life.... and you wonder why hawt chicks are hooked up with some rich ugly dude.... hmmmm. But of course the story may change if things don't work out as expected[/quote]

Yeh, saw the photo. It's stupid, but harmless. And Franken says that he doesn't think it happened the way Tweeden said it did. You are quick to condemn Franken, but slow...very slow...really slow...painfully slow (hold on, I got off topic), to condemn Trump.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Is+cleetus+correct ... harassment

Uh huh.

cwtcr hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote: Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

Umm...yes.

"touched her vagina through her underwear,"
"started putting his hand up [her] skirt."

Sure, nothing's been proven. And nothing's been proven on Franken, or most of the other people being accused.

Which goes back to the original point I made, you dorks hold Trump to the standard of "proof", but no one else.

IIWII.

As for accusations...one accusation very flimsy. A dozen? Have to give it some credence, especially giving that his boasting mirrors the exact complaints.

sorry reading is hard for you, see my statement about all the accusations......fyi, the number of accusations is meaningless. Again if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddle 12 YO boys that makes it true....correct? Or better yet, myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled all of us....that makes it true I guess

fyi, guess you missed the picture of Franken on the plane...next

one more edit, so the article says he raped them, forcing penetration? or was it consensual at the time and it is not now. You do realize some wimminz don't have any issue using their bodies to get ahead in life.... and you wonder why hawt chicks are hooked up with some rich ugly dude.... hmmmm. But of course the story may change if things don't work out as expected[/quote]

The number may be meaningless, but it’s not zero.


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cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote: Trump said he kissed women without asking them.

Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

Umm...yes.

"touched her vagina through her underwear,"
"started putting his hand up [her] skirt."

Sure, nothing's been proven. And nothing's been proven on Franken, or most of the other people being accused.

Which goes back to the original point I made, you dorks hold Trump to the standard of "proof", but no one else.

IIWII.

As for accusations...one accusation very flimsy. A dozen? Have to give it some credence, especially giving that his boasting mirrors the exact complaints.[/quote]

sorry reading is hard for you, see my statement about all the accusations......fyi, the number of accusations is meaningless. Again if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddle 12 YO boys that makes it true....correct? Or better yet, myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled all of us....that makes it true I guess

fyi, guess you missed the picture of Franken on the plane...next

one more edit, so the article says he raped them, forcing penetration? or was it consensual at the time and it is not now. You do realize some wimminz don't have any issue using their bodies to get ahead in life.... and you wonder why hawt chicks are hooked up with some rich ugly dude.... hmmmm. But of course the story may change if things don't work out as expected[/quote]

The number may be meaningless, but it’s not zero.


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Again, if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled us as 12 year olds with zero proof of that statement according to you you are a rampant pedophile...... or people are lying but we accused you so you are guilty...right?

do you get it yet? Everybody accused could be 100% guilty but there is no way to know and no way for those accused to fight the accusations, how do you prove the accusation did not happen? Or the incident was not that at the time, possibly consensual at the time, later, not so much

cwtcr hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:

HokieFanDC wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote: Link? This is new to me. Maybe you just need some LWNJ secret decoder goggles.

No thanks. You dismissed as nothing when it came out during the election. It’s part of the Billy Bush stuff, and was widely discussed. It was 12 years ago, Trump apologized, said that’s not the man he is now, and that was good enough for his supporters. I’m sure Franken’s supporters feel the same way as Trump supporters did.

you are using the billy bush interview, hahahahaha. Yes in the interview he boasted he could grab women by the puddy cat but so far nobody has accused him of any of that. Again, if men boasting is sexual assault or harassment then all men ever created are criminals.

Really? Where have you been? Yeh, I know, pointing these out to you means I'm a butthead.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36095 ... lass-white

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/p ... -that.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779935 ... al-conduct

Fester and Erkle, in those it says he walked up and grabbed their vagina? really?

of course I accuse you of diddling 12 yo boys.....so we know that is true cuz I accused you of it.

Point being anyone can say anything, what has been proven beside him boasting over a decade ago in an off camera talk with a tv guy?

next

Umm...yes.

"touched her vagina through her underwear,"
"started putting his hand up [her] skirt."

Sure, nothing's been proven. And nothing's been proven on Franken, or most of the other people being accused.

Which goes back to the original point I made, you dorks hold Trump to the standard of "proof", but no one else.

IIWII.

As for accusations...one accusation very flimsy. A dozen? Have to give it some credence, especially giving that his boasting mirrors the exact complaints.

sorry reading is hard for you, see my statement about all the accusations......fyi, the number of accusations is meaningless. Again if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddle 12 YO boys that makes it true....correct? Or better yet, myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled all of us....that makes it true I guess

fyi, guess you missed the picture of Franken on the plane...next

one more edit, so the article says he raped them, forcing penetration? or was it consensual at the time and it is not now. You do realize some wimminz don't have any issue using their bodies to get ahead in life.... and you wonder why hawt chicks are hooked up with some rich ugly dude.... hmmmm. But of course the story may change if things don't work out as expected[/quote]

The number may be meaningless, but it’s not zero.


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Again, if myself and 5,000 other people say you diddled us as 12 year olds with zero proof of that statement according to you you are a rampant pedophile...... or people are lying but we accused you so you are guilty...right?

do you get it yet? Everybody accused could be 100% guilty but there is no way to know and no way for those accused to fight the accusations, how do you prove the accusation did not happen? Or the incident was not that at the time, possibly consensual at the time, later, not so much[/quote]

So your statement was incorrect.


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so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

you do realize there is an actual picture of Franken, right? And yes in general sexual accusations are similiar, except for the wierdos most females have the same parts and most males do. So yes most sexual accusations will be similiar.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

Comparing an unfounded accusation in a lawsuit which was dropped to a picture of Al Franken sexually assaulting a woman is intellectually dishonest

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

Comparing an unfounded accusation in a lawsuit which was dropped to a picture of Al Franken sexually assaulting a woman is intellectually dishonest

The statement was incorrect.


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cwtcr hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

you do realize there is an actual picture of Franken, right? And yes in general sexual accusations are similiar, except for the wierdos most females have the same parts and most males do. So yes most sexual accusations will be similiar.

My point is that your statement was incorrect. that's all.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

Comparing an unfounded accusation in a lawsuit which was dropped to a picture of Al Franken sexually assaulting a woman is intellectually dishonest

The statement was incorrect.


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False.

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

Comparing an unfounded accusation in a lawsuit which was dropped to a picture of Al Franken sexually assaulting a woman is intellectually dishonest

The statement was incorrect.


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False.

Atta boy.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

cwtcr hokie wrote:so you are a pedophile

(that makes as much sense as your post)

No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

Comparing an unfounded accusation in a lawsuit which was dropped to a picture of Al Franken sexually assaulting a woman is intellectually dishonest

The statement was incorrect.


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False.

Atta boy.


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Maybe the only accusation he knows of is related to the suit that was dropped?
Ignorance is a solid defense.

HokieFanDC wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote: No, cwtcr. You suggested that nobody has accused Trump of the same behavior as Franken. That statement was incorrect. That's all.

Comparing an unfounded accusation in a lawsuit which was dropped to a picture of Al Franken sexually assaulting a woman is intellectually dishonest

The statement was incorrect.


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False.

Atta boy.


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Maybe the only accusation he knows of is related to the suit that was dropped?
Ignorance is a solid defense.

Up is down with these people.


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Did Trump likely grope? I'm guessing yes. As I understand, he had also flown on that wealthy pedophile guy's plane, just as Bill C had (and Bill C without his security detail at that!)

Did Franken grope? Hell yes! There is even a picture of it!

There's no need to split hairs on the matter.

RiverguyVT wrote:Did Trump likely grope? I'm guessing yes. As I understand, he had also flown on that wealthy pedophile guy's plane, just as Bill C had (and Bill C without his security detail at that!)

Did Franken grope? Hell yes! There is even a picture of it!

There's no need to split hairs on the matter.

Not sure how you say that, no way to know if he did or not and wether it was consensual or not (same as with every other accusation except Louis CK and the Franken picture), and Trump has his own planes and all so why would he travel on a plane if the guy had a reputation. Bill does not have his own air fleet

Don't you think these accusations are getting nuts? The latest one on Franken said he grabbed the womans ass while taking a picture at a county fair. Yes the woman seems believable but Franken to me does not seem like a ballsy guy so you are telling me he grabbed her ass and she did nothing and he did it right in front of her husband and with people all around him? That does not make sense.

One of the ones against Charlie Rose said he came out of the shower naked (most people do shower naked) and the assistant just stood there. First what woman goes into the room if he is in the shower and even if they go in who stays around and waits for him to get out of the shower. 99.9% of people would leave as the other person is in the shower and has to come out at some time. Yes the people seem truthful but you are asking me to suspend all common sense and all normal human reactions.... and it is daily now.

1- my understanding is that DonTrump's name was reported on the manifest. It is a leap of logic to assume that just because Trump has his own planes, he's never fly on someone else's. I have several vehicles. Ive ridden in someone else's

2- what's ballsy about groping a woman? It doesn't take balls. It takes lack of good sense.