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Meh, Tua seems like a good kid and performed great, but the element of surprise was a large part of his success. I think. He won't have that luxury if he starts next year.

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I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure. So is it that he gets to pick and choose which 5 * guys to take or is he the best coach ever? Did the coaches between him and the bear get the same setup? Reality is that bama is going to win the NC every year for now, lets hope that changes in our lifetimes

The problem for bama is obvious though, Saban is not a spring chicken and cloning is working well yet


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I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure


Hard to judge him as a failure in the NFL when his team doctor vetoed the Drew Brees signing and stuck him with Culpepper.


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nolanvt wrote:
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nolanvt wrote:
I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure


Hard to judge him as a failure in the NFL when his team doctor vetoed the Drew Brees signing and stuck him with Culpepper.


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no not at all, it is based on wins and losses, same as in college


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cwtcr hokie wrote:
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nolanvt wrote:
I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure


Hard to judge him as a failure in the NFL when his team doctor vetoed the Drew Brees signing and stuck him with Culpepper.


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no not at all, it is based on wins and losses, same as in college


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cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure


Hard to judge him as a failure in the NFL when his team doctor vetoed the Drew Brees signing and stuck him with Culpepper.


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no not at all, it is based on wins and losses, same as in college


Is going 2 games under .500 in two NFL seasons after taking over for a 4-12 team a huge failure? He didn't get fired, he just wanted to go back to college where he had some control of getting the players he wanted rather than losing out on Drew Brees because his GM refused.


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BG Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure


Hard to judge him as a failure in the NFL when his team doctor vetoed the Drew Brees signing and stuck him with Culpepper.


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no not at all, it is based on wins and losses, same as in college


Is going 2 games under .500 in two NFL seasons after taking over for a 4-12 team a huge failure? He didn't get fired, he just wanted to go back to college where he had some control of getting the players he wanted rather than losing out on Drew Brees because his GM refused.


he strikes me as an asshole.

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cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure. So is it that he gets to pick and choose which 5 * guys to take or is he the best coach ever?

He gets to pick and choose which 5* guy because he is a great coach. If it was so easy others would duplicate it. Pete Carroll was pretty good at this as well, but didn't seem to be near as good on X's and O's.

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Did the coaches between him and the bear get the same setup?

Yes, they just weren't as good as Saban.

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Reality is that bama is going to win the NC every year for now

Reality is they won't.

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The problem for bama is obvious though, Saban is not a spring chicken and cloning is working well yet

Exactly, what Saban is doing is remarkable. Since no one else has duplicated it; Alabama probably won't win a national championship as often without him, even with the same setup.


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Saban's genius lies in recognizing the lack of parity in CFB with regards to $$$$. He assembled a huge back office staff which takes a ton of burden off the the coaches and essentially comes up with a pre packaged gameplan for the coaching staff. Coaching staff can concentrate on recruiting and other areas. Alabama has something like 30-40 football analysts employed. I'm pretty sure VT has about 4 or 5 max.

Clemson is also in the 20s to 30s.

Plus Saban never rests on his laurels. He keeps reinventing what he does. Realizes that if he's not innovating, he's falling behind.


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TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
I forget if it was cwtcr or CFB, but I always used to get a kick when one of them kept asserting that Saban wasn’t that great of a coach because a lot of coaches could do what he’s doing at Alabama with their talent and resources. You know, because they only won one title in the 25 years between Bear Bryant and Saban with however many coaches they had.


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I never said saban was not a great coach but yes for college, in the pros he was a huge failure. So is it that he gets to pick and choose which 5 * guys to take or is he the best coach ever?

He gets to pick and choose which 5* guy because he is a great coach. If it was so easy others would duplicate it. Pete Carroll was pretty good at this as well, but didn't seem to be near as good on X's and O's.

cwtcr hokie wrote:
Did the coaches between him and the bear get the same setup?

Yes, they just weren't as good as Saban.

cwtcr hokie wrote:
Reality is that bama is going to win the NC every year for now

Reality is they won't.

cwtcr hokie wrote:
The problem for bama is obvious though, Saban is not a spring chicken and cloning is working well yet

Exactly, what Saban is doing is remarkable. Since no one else has duplicated it; Alabama probably won't win a national championship as often without him, even with the same setup.
Pete Carroll was buying players, like Saban is doing. They do it via boosters, it's professional sports.

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Saban's genius lies in recognizing the lack of parity in CFB with regards to $$$$. He assembled a huge back office staff which takes a ton of burden off the the coaches and essentially comes up with a pre packaged gameplan for the coaching staff. Coaching staff can concentrate on recruiting and other areas. Alabama has something like 30-40 football analysts employed. I'm pretty sure VT has about 4 or 5 max.

Clemson is also in the 20s to 30s.

Plus Saban never rests on his laurels. He keeps reinventing what he does. Realizes that if he's not innovating, he's falling behind.
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