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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:01 pm 
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Please......just stop defending her.......

“The one regret I have is that I should have spoke with Senator Grassley before,” she told NBC News.

“And I don’t make an excuse but I’ve had a bad cold and maybe that slowed down my mental facilities [sic] a little bit.”-Feinstein


Kick her off, I don't care. I said as much.

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Yep. In the least, she should be removed from all committee duties. In reality, she be should impeached.

I don't know what sundry security clearances she has, but they should all be taken away, as this behavior is germane to having or not having clearance.


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Yep. In the least, she should be removed from all committee duties. In reality, she be should impeached.

I don't know what sundry security clearances she has, but they should all be taken away, as this behavior is germane to having or not having clearance.

No it isn't. Not even close. She broke a rule at most. No laws were broken. She'll get her knuckles rapped.


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Yep. In the least, she should be removed from all committee duties. In reality, she be should impeached.

I don't know what sundry security clearances she has, but they should all be taken away, as this behavior is germane to having or not having clearance.

No it isn't. Not even close. She broke a rule at most. No laws were broken. She'll get her knuckles rapped.

Yes, it is.
She did not handle confidential information appropriately, and blamed a head cold for her malfeasance.


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Yep. In the least, she should be removed from all committee duties. In reality, she be should impeached.

I don't know what sundry security clearances she has, but they should all be taken away, as this behavior is germane to having or not having clearance.

No it isn't. Not even close. She broke a rule at most. No laws were broken. She'll get her knuckles rapped.

Yes, it is.
She did not handle confidential information appropriately, and blamed a head cold for her malfeasance.
All of these democrats are old and with dementia. They're not fit to serve, we should have a max age to hold office.

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RiverguyVT wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
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Yep. In the least, she should be removed from all committee duties. In reality, she be should impeached.

I don't know what sundry security clearances she has, but they should all be taken away, as this behavior is germane to having or not having clearance.

No it isn't. Not even close. She broke a rule at most. No laws were broken. She'll get her knuckles rapped.

Yes, it is.
She did not handle confidential information appropriately, and blamed a head cold for her malfeasance.

One, the information is not "confidential" as in security document classifications of confidential/secret/top secret. The media may use the term but they don't mean classified, they mean private. I ran into this all the time in my business.

As for the head cold, she blamed that for forgetting to tell Grassley she was going to release it, not for her actually releasing it.

There are a lot of things about this whole investigation to get worked up about, but this isn't one.


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133743Hokie wrote:
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133743Hokie wrote:
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Yep. In the least, she should be removed from all committee duties. In reality, she be should impeached.

I don't know what sundry security clearances she has, but they should all be taken away, as this behavior is germane to having or not having clearance.

No it isn't. Not even close. She broke a rule at most. No laws were broken. She'll get her knuckles rapped.

Yes, it is.
She did not handle confidential information appropriately, and blamed a head cold for her malfeasance.

One, the information is not "confidential" as in security document classifications of confidential/secret/top secret. The media may use the term but they don't mean classified, they mean private. I ran into this all the time in my business.

As for the head cold, she blamed that for forgetting to tell Grassley she was going to release it, not for her actually releasing it.

There are a lot of things about this whole investigation to get worked up about, but this isn't one.


It wasn’t “confidential” as in security documents, no.
It was “confidential” as in ongoing investigation ethics.

Circling back to national security.. Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances. She behaved unethically in a circumstance that called for TEMPORARY discretion. Her clearances should be (but won’t) be revoked, as she’s shown she is unable/arbitrarily unwilling, to be discrete.


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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.

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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.
Do tell, what has he done that's unethical?

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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.



Because calling Haiti a shiitehole is equivalent to what Feinstein did?

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TheH2 wrote:
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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.


What confidential info has he leaked?
... :?:


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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.



Because calling Haiti a shiitehole is equivalent to what Feinstein did?
Trump didn't say that, H2 and Hoof are fake news.

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Remember when Kathy Griffin bemoaned "He broke me!"?
We are witnessing the "breaking" of people I'd consider to be a lot smarter than Kathy Griffin. Liberals are turning the potato chip bag of rational debate upside down and shaking it for even the tiniest of inane irrelevant morsels.

Trump- "Haiti is a shirthole"
Libs- bedlam, renting of garments, wailing, and wallowing in ashes of indignation.

Bill and Hillary - rob the poorest people on the planet of billions of dollars after those same people had just been devasted by a natural disaster of historic proportions. Some of the Clinton plunder is even used to buy Web Hubble's ugly daughter a $20,000 wedding dress.
Libs - "meh."

Please, chile.
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Liberals are broken.
They cannot even see that what Feinstein did was wrong.
Obama threw acid in their eyes and blinded them 10 years ago.

Pity...because R's aren't to be trusted either, and could sure use RATIONAL checks and balances as our good 1770's forefathers intended.

Truly, I am saddened that leftists all seem to have become cartoonish blathering idiots.


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RiverguyVT wrote:
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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.


What confidential info has he leaked?
... :?:

Didn't realize ethical behavior was limited to releasing information that was "confidential".

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TheH2 wrote:
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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.


What confidential info has he leaked?
... :?:

Didn't realize ethical behavior was limited to releasing information that was "confidential".


When that is the VERY exact nature of having a security clearance?
Reallly?


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RiverguyVT wrote:
Remember when Kathy Griffin bemoaned "He broke me!"?
We are witnessing the "breaking" of people I'd consider to be a lot smarter than Kathy Griffin. Liberals are turning the potato chip bag of rational debate upside down and shaking it for even the tiniest of inane irrelevant morsels.

Trump- "Haiti is a shirthole"
Libs- bedlam, renting of garments, wailing, and wallowing in ashes of indignation.

Bill and Hillary - rob the poorest people on the planet of billions of dollars after those same people had just been devasted by a natural disaster of historic proportions. Some of the Clinton plunder is even used to buy Web Hubble's ugly daughter a $20,000 wedding dress.
Libs - "meh."

Please, chile.
:roll:

Liberals are broken.
They cannot even see that what Feinstein did was wrong.
Obama threw acid in their eyes and blinded them 10 years ago.

Pity...because R's aren't to be trusted either, and could sure use RATIONAL checks and balances as our good 1770's forefathers intended.

Truly, I am saddened that leftists all seem to have become cartoonish blathering idiots.
They've always been fools, that's how they got to be liberals to begin with.

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TheH2 wrote:
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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.


What confidential info has he leaked?
... :?:

Didn't realize ethical behavior was limited to releasing information that was "confidential".
You clearly don't know what ethical behavior is or you could explain your latest laughable accusation of Trump being unethical because? Apparently the answer is the lies you guys state against him don't stick.

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RiverguyVT wrote:
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TheH2 wrote:
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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.


What confidential info has he leaked?
... :?:

Didn't realize ethical behavior was limited to releasing information that was "confidential".


When that is the VERY exact nature of having a security clearance?
Reallly?


Please read, please read.

My comment regarding ethical behavior - there goes Trump's clearance.

Your comment: What confidential information has he leaked.
I never said he leaked confidential behavior, just that he wasn't ethical. I, and presumably like you, think ethics has to do with a lot more than a security clearance. That's way so many Mormons work for the agency.

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I hope you don't take it personally if I suggest you just proved my prior (other) post with example.


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They've always been fools, that's how they got to be liberals to begin with


Agry to disagry.
I'm seeing a jettisoning of classic liberalism, which clearly should have a seat at the table of public policy discussion, exchanging it instead for sheer lunacy. And I'm seeing it on a broad scale


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I hope you don't take it personally if I suggest you just proved my prior (other) post with example.


You're not a fan of trump. I don't think (and maybe you have in the past?) have described him as unethical. My comment on Trump was mostly a joke, but seriously, ethics isn't something that goes before Donald Trump in a sentence.

Edit: Let me clear up that sentence because that doesn't make much sense. I don't think you would describe him as ethical, and maybe you have in the past insinuated he was unethical.

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They've always been fools, that's how they got to be liberals to begin with


Agry to disagry.
I'm seeing a jettisoning of classic liberalism, which clearly should have a seat at the table of public policy discussion, exchanging it instead for sheer lunacy. And I'm seeing it on a broad scale
Classic liberalism is modern conservatism. Modern liberals are communists and they've always been fruitcakes. We just have a better view of it via the internet. They haven't changed, how much we see of them has.

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I hope you don't take it personally if I suggest you just proved my prior (other) post with example.


You're not a fan of trump. I don't think (and maybe you have in the past?) have described him as unethical. My comment on Trump was mostly a joke, but seriously, ethics isn't something that goes before Donald Trump in a sentence.
LOL, you're just making stuff up. Sad and typical.

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You were making a joke. I get it.
No, I don't think Trump a paragon of ethics (cough). Hardly. He's a developer.
And no, I'm not a huge trump fan (the person)

But golly, he's doing a lot of good. Goofy guy that he is.


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RiverguyVT wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
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TheH2 wrote:
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Ethical behavior is a requirement to having security clearances.

There goes Trump.


What confidential info has he leaked?
... :?:

Didn't realize ethical behavior was limited to releasing information that was "confidential".


When that is the VERY exact nature of having a security clearance?
Reallly?

But it isn't.


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