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ElbertoHokie wrote:Forget all the accusations. Who here thinks trump did or did not sleep with the porn star? Does anyone here think he's actually been faithful to Melania for the extent of their marriage?
I have no idea.
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ElbertoHokie wrote:Forget all the accusations. Who here thinks trump did or did not sleep with the porn star? Does anyone here think he's actually been faithful to Melania for the extent of their marriage?
Depends what is is.

No. Seriously. We don’t know how the Trump’s define faithfulness.

Being that this allegation covers something before he ever entered political life, it doesn’t matter. It’s all just a mud fight.
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ElbertoHokie wrote:Forget all the accusations. Who here thinks trump did or did not sleep with the porn star? Does anyone here think he's actually been faithful to Melania for the extent of their marriage?
He definitely did, but Trump isn’t a Bible thumper and his image is one where you wouldn’t be surprised by it.


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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Besides Trump of course, is there a candidate one could have supported while still maintaining integrity?


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Re: $130,000

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Besides Trump of course, is there a candidate one could have supported while still maintaining integrity?


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Not one on the ballot. I new what McMuffin was the second I started hearing about him.

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Re: $130,000

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HokieHam wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Besides Trump of course, is there a candidate one could have supported while still maintaining integrity?


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Not one on the ballot. I new what McMuffin was the second I started hearing about him.

I wrote in Rand Paul. I’m glad Trump won.
I should let USN answer, but I expect he would agree.

We’ve established that one cannot have integrity and have voted for the spook. Hillary seems obvious. Not sure about GJ.

So less than half of Americans have integrity.


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nolanvt wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:Forget all the accusations. Who here thinks trump did or did not sleep with the porn star? Does anyone here think he's actually been faithful to Melania for the extent of their marriage?
He definitely did, but Trump isn’t a Bible thumper and his image is one where you wouldn’t be surprised by it.


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And you 100% know for sure that he did how? Again, as I asked the poster Once and he/she could NEVER explain how they knew for sure, please explain how you know for sure
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ElbertoHokie wrote:Forget all the accusations. Who here thinks trump did or did not sleep with the porn star? Does anyone here think he's actually been faithful to Melania for the extent of their marriage?
1. I don't know. Nobody here does.

2. Since when have liberals been concerned with sanctity of traditional marriage? What if Trump self identifies as a bachelor?
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Re: $130,000

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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
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Re: $130,000

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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
Why is he a spook?


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Re: $130,000

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
Why is he a spook?


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
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Service/branch: Central Intelligence Agency
Years of service: 2001–2010
Rank: Operations officer
Unit: National Clandestine Service
Battles/wars: Global War on Terrorism
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Re: $130,000

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
Why is he a spook?


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He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote: Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
Why is he a spook?


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He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.
I just googled "define:spook." I was not aware that it is a term for a spy. I was aware of the urban dictionary definition.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
Why is he a spook?


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He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.
I just googled "define:spook." I was not aware that it is a term for a spy. I was aware of the urban dictionary definition.
Yeah. What did you think it is?
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That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.[/quote]

Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.[/quote]

Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.[/quote]

Why is he a spook?


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He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.[/quote][/quote]

I just googled "define:spook." I was not aware that it is a term for a spy. I was aware of the urban dictionary definition.[/quote]Yeah. What did you think it is?[/quote]

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awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
Why is he a spook?


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He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.
I just googled "define:spook." I was not aware that it is a term for a spy. I was aware of the urban dictionary definition.
Yeah. What did you think it is?
I wasn't sure what USN was trying to say. Like I said, I'm aware of the Danville definition of the term.
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Re: $130,000

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.
I just googled "define:spook." I was not aware that it is a term for a spy. I was aware of the urban dictionary definition.
Yeah. What did you think it is?
I wasn't sure what USN was trying to say. Like I said, I'm aware of the Danville definition of the term.
I'm not. What's the Danville definition?
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Re: $130,000

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HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote: I didn't admit anything of the sort. You, making up things in your own head, has no bearing on reality. You also said that I supported Clinton and Obama, which is a ridiculous pile of nonsense. When you can come to conclusions like that, you have less than zero credibility.

Now, I'll cede that you have criticized Trump a few times in the past, but very mildly. But, you keep saying I support McMuffin, as if me voting for him in a the worst POTUS election lineup in our lifetime, is highly meaningful. Since Nov. 8th, the only one of us who has even thought about McMullin, is you. I don't support him, or care about him. And voting for him has nothing to do with my morals. But if you want to go down that path, then I'll take my choice over yours every day of the week. Comparing the morals of McMullin and Trump is not even close.
As for you being a spy, no kidding, no one has ever thought you would be. But, you call me a statist for supporting the CIA. If I'm a statist, I'm not sure where someone who chose to work for a government entity, falls, but it's several levels above me saying I respect the CIA. The CIA and Navy occupy the same government morality that you seem to be denigrating.
1. You outed yourself as a liberal when you mocked conservatives earlier in this thread.
2. Never said you supported them, but it's odd you seem to criticize everyone but liberals (or when you do, it's vague flippant one liners. You save all your real effort for attacking conservatives.)
3. Thank you for admitting you lied in your characterization of my support for Trump.
4. Funny that you say you don't care about the candidate whose whole candidacy was a lie to help Hillary by (trying to) stealing Utah's electoral votes, then defend him. :lol: Thankfully, the good people of Utah have better judgment than you.
5. You keep missing (or more likely, ignoring) the point, bucko. You pretend to care about ethics while supporting a candidate whose job was to deceive, steal, lie, etc.. (all things I never was asked to do, thanks). You don't give a shirt, you just hate Drumpf.

Stop embarrassing yourself.
Mocking conversations who have ceded the moral high ground, doesn’t make me a liberal. It makes me a conservative who is consistent in condemning anyone who exhibits poor behavior.
I don’t criticize everyone but liberals, you’re just too deep in your clouded reality to realize that. When I agree with the general board consensus, it’s one post and move on. When everyone agrees, it’s a short thread.

That’s your opinion of McMullin, not fact. Your whole mcmullin attack angle is simply pitiful.

And even though I’ve said it many times, I think a lot of Trumps policies are good, but Trump the person, severely lacking. If you want to call that hate, have a it. I hate Hillary, everything about her.
I don’t hate everything about Trump, but he is a deceitful liar, and that’s a fault of his that you seem to think has meaning for a POTUs candidate nobody, but not for the guy you strongly support.

That’s why you lack moral high ground.
Again - you voted for McMullen - you have no leg to stand on in criticizing the integrity of other candidates. At least Hoof ate a shirt sandwich knowing what he was getting. You voted for a fraud.

All that hate is eating you up.
Your McMuffin theory is one of the most twisted logical leaps ever on UWS.
By your own twisted standard, you have no leg to stand on in questioning the integrity of McMullin. So, here we are, and neither of us can criticize any candidate. Derp.
One big difference. I voted for McMullin b/c I think I have a duty to vote, and couldn't vote for either of the leading candidates, both of whom had less integrity than all the others. But, I haven't supported him, or defended any of what he's said or done, since then. In fact, he's been a giant douche.

But, I like your concept. Please stand by your own conclusions and refrain from criticizing the integrity of any other politician, since you actively support one who has none.
LOL, you're in full Chewbacca defense. You should probably call me Trump Defense Brigade now.

Congratulations on your vote which supported more leftists while pretending that your shirt doesn't stink, though.
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HokieFanDC wrote: He was an intelligence officer. Apparently intelligence officers are immoral people. Who knew.
Stop trying to sugarcoat your BS. McMuffin was an undercover, overseas CIA operative (still is?). Aka "spook."

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I'm sorry, I thought you started your hissy fit because you thought Trump was lying? Do you think spies don't lie? Is lying ethical, or only when allowed by your religion (the state)?
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awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I wasn't sure what USN was trying to say. Like I said, I'm aware of the Danville definition of the term.
I'm not. What's the Danville definition?
The first thing which came to IP's mind when I said "spook" was the derogatory term for a black person, apparently.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I wasn't sure what USN was trying to say. Like I said, I'm aware of the Danville definition of the term.
I'm not. What's the Danville definition?
The first thing which came to IP's mind when I said "spook" was the derogatory term for a black person, apparently.
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awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I wasn't sure what USN was trying to say. Like I said, I'm aware of the Danville definition of the term.
I'm not. What's the Danville definition?
The first thing which came to IP's mind when I said "spook" was the derogatory term for a black person, apparently.
That's Methchester for ya.
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RiverguyVT wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I wasn't sure what USN was trying to say. Like I said, I'm aware of the Danville definition of the term.
I'm not. What's the Danville definition?
The first thing which came to IP's mind when I said "spook" was the derogatory term for a black person, apparently.
That's Methchester for ya.
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How is that?
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