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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:03 am 
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Of course this MUST mean that he hates all non-whites because Scandinavian countries are still (mostly) white!

Only a racist would say something like this! Why not say, "if only the world could be more like Ethiopia" or "if only the world could be more like Qatar" or "if only the world could be more like Venezuela?"

Oh wait...it wasn't Trump who said this...

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2016 Flashback: Obama to World: Be More Like the Nordics; ‘If Only Everyone Could Be Like the Scandinavians
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Like it was allegedly said by President Donald Trump, President Barack Obama has a preference for people from Nordic-Scandinavian countries. But unlike Trump, the media did not attack Obama over that, even when he wished the world could be run by people from those countries.

President Obama and Nordic leaders stand together during the arrival ceremony in the Grand Foyer of the White House, May 13, 2016. From left are Prime Minister Sigurður Ingi Jóhannsson of Iceland, Prime Minister Lars Løkke Rasmussen of Denmark, Prime Minister Erna Solberg of Norway, Prime Minister Stefan Löfven of Sweden, and President Sauli Niinistö of Finland. (Official White House Photo by Chuck Kennedy)

The AP reported on Obama’s May 13, 2016 summit with the leaders of Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland, with this headline, “Obama to world: Be more like the Nordics“

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Democrats may argue over whether places like Denmark and Norway are model societies. President Barack Obama is sure.

Apparently well beyond concerns about being branded a socialist, Obama on Friday celebrated the five Nordic nations as examples of reliability, equality, generosity, responsibility, even personal happiness.

As he welcomed the Nordic leaders to the White House, he owned up to thinking perhaps the small havens of social liberalism should take the reins every now and then.

He joked: “Why don’t we just put all these small countries in charge for a while?”…


In a massive April 2016 Atlantic article on Obama, “The Obama Doctrine” by Jeffrey Goldberg, Obama is quoted yearning for a world of Scandinavians.
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In recent days, the president has taken to joking privately, “All I need in the Middle East is a few smart autocrats.” Obama has always had a fondness for pragmatic, emotionally contained technocrats, telling aides, “If only everyone could be like the Scandinavians, this would all be easy.”


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I'm pretty sure Cuba, China, & NK have single payer. Why not say we should all be more like them?

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Because those countries are effectively run by dictators? Just a hunch.


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Cool, so we can agree that when Trump refers to countries like Haiti as "sh!thole countries" (if he actually said that), a good hunch would be because they are actually sh!thole countries. Not because of the color of the people. Right?

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Cool, so we can agree that when Trump refers to countries like Haiti as "sh!thole countries" (if he actually said that), a good hunch would be because they are actually sh!thole countries. Not because of the color of the people. Right?


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I'm pretty sure Cuba, China, & NK have single payer. Why not say we should all be more like them?


IP only wants socialism from white countries...

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I'm pretty sure Cuba, China, & NK have single payer. Why not say we should all be more like them?


IP only wants socialism from white countries...



Yep. I'm also amused how the multiculturalists are for respecting "all cultures", well except for American culture. That's to trash. Just like "open minded" is correctly interpreted as "like minded", "multicultural" is interpreted as "anti-Christian culture". That's what they're really getting at as they do nothing but attack Judeo-Christian values and culture while bending over backwards to accept Islam. I think they want to replace Christianity with Islam as the dominant religious foe as Islam is everything evil that they claim Christianity is, making it easier to mock and undermine. But they haven't factored that Muslims don't play games with them and instead will cut their throats when they attempt to subvert a dominant Muslim culture.

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So the transitive property tells us IP is actually Trump?


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I'm pretty sure Cuba, China, & NK have single payer. Why not say we should all be more like them?


IP only wants socialism from white countries...



Yep. I'm also amused how the multiculturalists are for respecting "all cultures", well except for American culture. That's to trash. Just like "open minded" is correctly interpreted as "like minded", "multicultural" is interpreted as "anti-Christian culture". That's what they're really getting at as they do nothing but attack Judeo-Christian values and culture while bending over backwards to accept Islam. I think they want to replace Christianity with Islam as the dominant religious foe as Islam is everything evil that they claim Christianity is, making it easier to mock and undermine. But they haven't factored that Muslims don't play games with them and instead will cut their throats when they attempt to subvert a dominant Muslim culture.


IP better start liking brown people socialism, because that's Europe's future.

He didn't think that was sustainable, did he?

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USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
Single payer.


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I'm pretty sure Cuba, China, & NK have single payer. Why not say we should all be more like them?


IP only wants socialism from white countries...



Yep. I'm also amused how the multiculturalists are for respecting "all cultures", well except for American culture. That's to trash. Just like "open minded" is correctly interpreted as "like minded", "multicultural" is interpreted as "anti-Christian culture". That's what they're really getting at as they do nothing but attack Judeo-Christian values and culture while bending over backwards to accept Islam. I think they want to replace Christianity with Islam as the dominant religious foe as Islam is everything evil that they claim Christianity is, making it easier to mock and undermine. But they haven't factored that Muslims don't play games with them and instead will cut their throats when they attempt to subvert a dominant Muslim culture.


IP better start liking brown people socialism, because that's Europe's future.

He didn't think that was sustainable, did he?



It's the same type we have here now, the Obama economy of permanent disability and welfare. Read the other article about the AmeriCorp worker and her explanation of African values. It's not a lot different from African-American values. Rather than theft, call it hustling. Stealing is accepted in both, large families working together and against everyone else, etc. Due to racist democrat policies, they're still a largely unassimilated group of immigrants. Worse, a group that is determined to never assimilate as liberals have tainted the idea of white values within the black community via their segregation and other racist policies. Now many blacks accepting Judeo-Christian values are called Uncle Tom, a sellout, etc. What they're saying is "you assimilated". Even their religion of Black Liberation Theology is a racist denonciation of white/Christian culture. Or The Nation of Islam, it's a racist spin of Islam. The left needs that division as it gives them a boogyman to rally votes. Like here with Trump, he's given them the lowest black unemployment rate in 20 years and things are just looking better for them. And they'll turn out in droves to vote against him because Dicky Durbin lied about their meeting and the MSM went on another week of calling Trump a racist via a lie from the left.

IP hates brown people socialism as it's what we have have now, he clamors for white people socialism in Scandinavia where African culture is absent. The question is does he want to dilute African influence here via European immigration or just continue to pay off Africans to not live or interact with him in his white gentrified neighborhood?

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It's the same type we have here now, the Obama economy of permanent disability and welfare. Read the other article about the AmeriCorp worker and her explanation of African values. It's not a lot different from African-American values. Rather than theft, call it hustling. Stealing is accepted in both, large families working together and against everyone else, etc. Due to racist democrat policies, they're still a largely unassimilated group of immigrants. Worse, a group that is determined to never assimilate as liberals have tainted the idea of white values within the black community via their segregation and other racist policies. Now many blacks accepting Judeo-Christian values are called Uncle Tom, a sellout, etc. What they're saying is "you assimilated". Even their religion of Black Liberation Theology is a racist denonciation of white/Christian culture. Or The Nation of Islam, it's a racist spin of Islam. The left needs that division as it gives them a boogyman to rally votes. Like here with Trump, he's given them the lowest black unemployment rate in 20 years and things are just looking better for them. And they'll turn out in droves to vote against him because Dicky Durbin lied about their meeting and the MSM went on another week of calling Trump a racist via a lie from the left.

IP hates brown people socialism as it's what we have have now, he clamors for white people socialism in Scandinavia where African culture is absent. The question is does he want to dilute African influence here via European immigration or just continue to pay off Africans to not live or interact with him in his white gentrified neighborhood?


Oh good grief, the vast majority of black people in the US do not steal or consider stealing to be acceptable.

Blacks in the US tend to be poorer and poorer people steal/shoplift more than richer people do. (A rich white person isn't going to steal a loaf of bread to feed their family.)

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So the transitive property tells us IP is actually Trump?

That would be Obama and his team i believe.


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It's the same type we have here now, the Obama economy of permanent disability and welfare. Read the other article about the AmeriCorp worker and her explanation of African values. It's not a lot different from African-American values. Rather than theft, call it hustling. Stealing is accepted in both, large families working together and against everyone else, etc. Due to racist democrat policies, they're still a largely unassimilated group of immigrants. Worse, a group that is determined to never assimilate as liberals have tainted the idea of white values within the black community via their segregation and other racist policies. Now many blacks accepting Judeo-Christian values are called Uncle Tom, a sellout, etc. What they're saying is "you assimilated". Even their religion of Black Liberation Theology is a racist denonciation of white/Christian culture. Or The Nation of Islam, it's a racist spin of Islam. The left needs that division as it gives them a boogyman to rally votes. Like here with Trump, he's given them the lowest black unemployment rate in 20 years and things are just looking better for them. And they'll turn out in droves to vote against him because Dicky Durbin lied about their meeting and the MSM went on another week of calling Trump a racist via a lie from the left.

IP hates brown people socialism as it's what we have have now, he clamors for white people socialism in Scandinavia where African culture is absent. The question is does he want to dilute African influence here via European immigration or just continue to pay off Africans to not live or interact with him in his white gentrified neighborhood?


Oh good grief, the vast majority of black people in the US do not steal or consider stealing to be acceptable.

Blacks in the US tend to be poorer and poorer people steal/shoplift more than richer people do. (A rich white person isn't going to steal a loaf of bread to feed their family.)


Oh good grief, they way over represent thieves. It's not a poverty thing either as poor whites don't steal at the same rate. It's cultural, not income based. A tiny bit of critical thinking would show that food and necessities aren't what's stolen, it's Air Jordans, electronics, and items of that nature. And yep, blacks certainly are much more accepting of theft than whites. Visit any hood and there is a black market for stolen wares to be sold. Call them out on it and get some dumb response like "don't blame me, blame the system", "I'm taking back what was stolen from us!", "I've got to eat(said by a 400 pound black guy on food stamps)", or some other dumb excuse. It's certainly acceptable.

The whole "but they're poor!" argument is backwards. the exact same culture described in the AmeriCorp article exists in the ghetto. That culture creates ghettos as work and business is impossible as their neighbors steal and destroy the business. Or in America, white shame those wanting to better themselves. So then they're left in squalor as legitimate business is difficult in their culture. So they turn to crime as that's all available, from their own culture, not a lack of opportunity. The culture creates poverty, it's not a culture born of poverty.

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Even when Jordans, etc, are stolen, it's because they can be sold for necessities. Or it's kids stealing them because they perceive them to be a necessity.

(And I'm not clear - the 400 pound black guy on food stamps is stealing Air Jordans? Or anything????)

Poor whites may not steal as much, but only because poor whites are more likely to have some sort of support system.

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Even when Jordans, etc, are stolen, it's because they can be sold for necessities. Or it's kids stealing them because they perceive them to be a necessity.

(And I'm not clear - the 400 pound black guy on food stamps is stealing Air Jordans? Or anything????)

Poor whites may not steal as much, but only because poor whites are more likely to have some sort of support system.



That's just not true about stealing for max return. They could steal more food with less risk than stealing Air Jordans and selling for $100. As an anecdote, I was robbed by a black guy. He broke into my car that had blankets, beer, a duffle bag, and beer. This was in the dead of winter in NYC. What did he take? The beer and duffle bag of course. All of the survival items were left behind. They(the poor) have food stamps and public housing available anyway as the welfare state takes care of the survival needs for them. And that's another item was also available for sale on the black market at 2 to 1 purchase prices, the food stamps. Anything, state inspection stickers. No name it, they're not items of necessity, they're items to save a buck and the source is irrelevant as the idea of stealing is acceptable. It's just called hustling as that sounds nicer than criminal does.

I'm not sure if the 400 pound black guy was the one that stole the merchandise, but he was the one selling it. The black market has its own distribution system similar to legitimate markets. Someone steals a bunch of stuff and then sells it in bulk to 1 person. That 1 person breaks bulk and sells the items to the public, saying "I have a guy" for the source.

The "support system" argument doesn't pan out either in my opinion. Black families are on average larger than whites. Dad is missing, but there are tons of siblings, cousins, and grand mothers. They also seem closer. And in my experience, they do help each other out a lot more than white families. Especially modern white families that are getting more and more geographically spread out. This is obviously opinion and experience, but the ones I've interacted with have all helped each out a ton. They also turn the other cheek when one is into criminal activity. Whites don't steal as much because it's not culturally acceptable at all. So there's more pressure to not steal or keep it further on the downlow as there's more social cost associated with it.

The bottom line is it's a cultural problem. And it sounds exactly like the culture described in Africa. We see that culture in African-American communities here, in Hattie, and anywhere Africans immigrated. You can wrongly argue that it's not an issue in African culture, but that doesn't matter in the big picture. What matters is fixing that broken culture. Assimilating to white American culture, which is really white Europeans assimilating to a Middle Eastern culture created by Jesus, is what's important. Also important for white Americans to not lose that culture, as the left is determined to shed for the feudalism and culture of domination that defined european culture before Christ.

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Even when Jordans, etc, are stolen, it's because they can be sold for necessities. Or it's kids stealing them because they perceive them to be a necessity.

(And I'm not clear - the 400 pound black guy on food stamps is stealing Air Jordans? Or anything????)

Poor whites may not steal as much, but only because poor whites are more likely to have some sort of support system.


Huh? Air Jordans are stolen for status...ie, dudes want to get laid. Obesity is rampant in poor black communities; they're not selling them for necessities.

Not sure what the poor white "support system" is, unless you're referring to less family members in prison for stealing stuff.

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When we were much younger, my wife worked in New Kent. She saw some crazy stuff. Stuff that was poverty-related. Mostly whites. She also saw some crazy stuff a few years before that, in south Norfolk. Stuff that was poverty related. Mostly blacks.

Common denominator was crazy stuff driven by desperation in poverty. One was a rural sort of poverty, the other urban. The crazy stuff was remarkably similar.

Now, in a completely different job, she touches impoverished lives across the state. Poor Wise Conty whites are facing similar issues as poor city of Petersburg blacks.

While someone here can reference a black guy stealing sneakers, I’m sure someone else could reference a white guy illegally taking a deer,


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BigDave wrote:
Even when Jordans, etc, are stolen, it's because they can be sold for necessities. Or it's kids stealing them because they perceive them to be a necessity.

(And I'm not clear - the 400 pound black guy on food stamps is stealing Air Jordans? Or anything????)

Poor whites may not steal as much, but only because poor whites are more likely to have some sort of support system.



That's just not true about stealing for max return. They could steal more food with less risk than stealing Air Jordans and selling for $100. As an anecdote, I was robbed by a black guy. He broke into my car that had blankets, beer, a duffle bag, and beer. This was in the dead of winter in NYC. What did he take? The beer and duffle bag of course. All of the survival items were left behind. They(the poor) have food stamps and public housing available anyway as the welfare state takes care of the survival needs for them. And that's another item was also available for sale on the black market at 2 to 1 purchase prices, the food stamps. Anything, state inspection stickers. No name it, they're not items of necessity, they're items to save a buck and the source is irrelevant as the idea of stealing is acceptable. It's just called hustling as that sounds nicer than criminal does.

I'm not sure if the 400 pound black guy was the one that stole the merchandise, but he was the one selling it. The black market has its own distribution system similar to legitimate markets. Someone steals a bunch of stuff and then sells it in bulk to 1 person. That 1 person breaks bulk and sells the items to the public, saying "I have a guy" for the source.

The "support system" argument doesn't pan out either in my opinion. Black families are on average larger than whites. Dad is missing, but there are tons of siblings, cousins, and grand mothers. They also seem closer. And in my experience, they do help each other out a lot more than white families. Especially modern white families that are getting more and more geographically spread out. This is obviously opinion and experience, but the ones I've interacted with have all helped each out a ton. They also turn the other cheek when one is into criminal activity. Whites don't steal as much because it's not culturally acceptable at all. So there's more pressure to not steal or keep it further on the downlow as there's more social cost associated with it.

The bottom line is it's a cultural problem. And it sounds exactly like the culture described in Africa. We see that culture in African-American communities here, in Hattie, and anywhere Africans immigrated. You can wrongly argue that it's not an issue in African culture, but that doesn't matter in the big picture. What matters is fixing that broken culture. Assimilating to white American culture, which is really white Europeans assimilating to a Middle Eastern culture created by Jesus, is what's important. Also important for white Americans to not lose that culture, as the left is determined to shed for the feudalism and culture of domination that defined european culture before Christ.


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So the transitive property tells us IP is actually Trump?

That would be Obama and his team i believe.

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When we were much younger, my wife worked in New Kent. She saw some crazy stuff. Stuff that was poverty-related. Mostly whites. She also saw some crazy stuff a few years before that, in south Norfolk. Stuff that was poverty related. Mostly blacks.

Common denominator was crazy stuff driven by desperation in poverty. One was a rural sort of poverty, the other urban. The crazy stuff was remarkably similar.

Now, in a completely different job, she touches impoverished lives across the state. Poor Wise Conty whites are facing similar issues as poor city of Petersburg blacks.

While someone here can reference a black guy stealing sneakers, I’m sure someone else could reference a white guy illegally taking a deer,



What commonalities are you talking about explicitly? The working class whites will cut off others that steal. That's a big taboo.

I'd say drugs are a commonality and is poverty related as drugs are the intersection of poor life choices and a temporary escape from the consequences of those poor choices. The bottom line though is poverty just causes you to have less stuff or stuff of cheaper quality. It doesn't turn you into a criminal as our safety net is wide and deep. It's too wide and deep and serves more as a hammock, but living without food and shelter is a choice in America.

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BigDave wrote:
Even when Jordans, etc, are stolen, it's because they can be sold for necessities. Or it's kids stealing them because they perceive them to be a necessity.

(And I'm not clear - the 400 pound black guy on food stamps is stealing Air Jordans? Or anything????)

Poor whites may not steal as much, but only because poor whites are more likely to have some sort of support system.



That's just not true about stealing for max return. They could steal more food with less risk than stealing Air Jordans and selling for $100. As an anecdote, I was robbed by a black guy. He broke into my car that had blankets, beer, a duffle bag, and beer. This was in the dead of winter in NYC. What did he take? The beer and duffle bag of course. All of the survival items were left behind. They(the poor) have food stamps and public housing available anyway as the welfare state takes care of the survival needs for them. And that's another item was also available for sale on the black market at 2 to 1 purchase prices, the food stamps. Anything, state inspection stickers. No name it, they're not items of necessity, they're items to save a buck and the source is irrelevant as the idea of stealing is acceptable. It's just called hustling as that sounds nicer than criminal does.

I'm not sure if the 400 pound black guy was the one that stole the merchandise, but he was the one selling it. The black market has its own distribution system similar to legitimate markets. Someone steals a bunch of stuff and then sells it in bulk to 1 person. That 1 person breaks bulk and sells the items to the public, saying "I have a guy" for the source.

The "support system" argument doesn't pan out either in my opinion. Black families are on average larger than whites. Dad is missing, but there are tons of siblings, cousins, and grand mothers. They also seem closer. And in my experience, they do help each other out a lot more than white families. Especially modern white families that are getting more and more geographically spread out. This is obviously opinion and experience, but the ones I've interacted with have all helped each out a ton. They also turn the other cheek when one is into criminal activity. Whites don't steal as much because it's not culturally acceptable at all. So there's more pressure to not steal or keep it further on the downlow as there's more social cost associated with it.

The bottom line is it's a cultural problem. And it sounds exactly like the culture described in Africa. We see that culture in African-American communities here, in Hattie, and anywhere Africans immigrated. You can wrongly argue that it's not an issue in African culture, but that doesn't matter in the big picture. What matters is fixing that broken culture. Assimilating to white American culture, which is really white Europeans assimilating to a Middle Eastern culture created by Jesus, is what's important. Also important for white Americans to not lose that culture, as the left is determined to shed for the feudalism and culture of domination that defined european culture before Christ.


This thread is reminding me of my favorite Katrina picture :

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"Can't drink the water during a flood, need beer to survive!" haha. That is true though, spending the month hammered on Heineken is the better choice than drinking filthy sea water from the tap.

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