Larry Nassar sentenced to 40-175 years

[nolanvt]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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[Major Kong]

Not a long enough sentence.

[TheH2]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

[cwtcr hokie]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

[TheH2]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

[cwtcr hokie]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

If a crime is committed against you then go to the cops, not some organization, that is my issue. Go to the cops and make a charge against the person, it gets investigated and in the Nassar case more people would prob come out at that point with their stories, then he is stopped. Who goes to a coach or administator, that is what cops are for

There was an eye doctor that just got his practice destroyed and he is out of business due to sex allegations by a few patients so yes going to the cops and filing a charge can work

[TheH2]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

If a crime is committed against you then go to the cops, not some organization, that is my issue. Go to the cops and make a charge against the person, it gets investigated and in the Nassar case more people would prob come out at that point with their stories, then he is stopped. Who goes to a coach or administator, that is what cops are for

There was an eye doctor that just got his practice destroyed and he is out of business due to sex allegations by a few patients so yes going to the cops and filing a charge can work

In an ideal world. In an ideal world telling an adult would be enough. Or, your coach, the person you spend more time with than anyone.
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... ce_re.html

The victims are victims, not the problems. This again reinforces why this should be the biggest news story.

[cwtcr hokie]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

If a crime is committed against you then go to the cops, not some organization, that is my issue. Go to the cops and make a charge against the person, it gets investigated and in the Nassar case more people would prob come out at that point with their stories, then he is stopped. Who goes to a coach or administator, that is what cops are for

There was an eye doctor that just got his practice destroyed and he is out of business due to sex allegations by a few patients so yes going to the cops and filing a charge can work

In an ideal world. In an ideal world telling an adult would be enough. Or, your coach, the person you spend more time with than anyone.
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... ce_re.html

The victims are victims, not the problems. This again reinforces why this should be the biggest news story.

I agree the victims are victims, I also strongly suggest to any human that if a crime is committed against you, go to law enforcement....last I checked coaches could not arrest or investigate anyone. Go to law enforcement!

not sure where you get this case was not publicized, espn has been all over it and the msm. When nobody comes forward to make charges there is nothing to talk about. Once that finally happened it got lots of attention

[USN_Hokie]

I have a feeling the prison population will shorten that sentence.


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Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

Where are you going with this? I don't see what your argument is.

[TheH2]

Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

If a crime is committed against you then go to the cops, not some organization, that is my issue. Go to the cops and make a charge against the person, it gets investigated and in the Nassar case more people would prob come out at that point with their stories, then he is stopped. Who goes to a coach or administator, that is what cops are for

There was an eye doctor that just got his practice destroyed and he is out of business due to sex allegations by a few patients so yes going to the cops and filing a charge can work

In an ideal world. In an ideal world telling an adult would be enough. Or, your coach, the person you spend more time with than anyone.
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... ce_re.html

The victims are victims, not the problems. This again reinforces why this should be the biggest news story.

I agree the victims are victims, I also strongly suggest to any human that if a crime is committed against you, go to law enforcement....last I checked coaches could not arrest or investigate anyone. Go to law enforcement!

not sure where you get this case was not publicized, espn has been all over it and the msm. When nobody comes forward to make charges there is nothing to talk about. Once that finally happened it got lots of attention

Click on the link. Someone did go to the police. It didn't prevent this. Once again, you are just flat out wrong.

[cwtcr hokie]

Not sure why this hasn't been a much bigger story. This is sick. I wish it would never happen again. This should be widely publicized to show how something so disturbing can happen in an organization.

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

If a crime is committed against you then go to the cops, not some organization, that is my issue. Go to the cops and make a charge against the person, it gets investigated and in the Nassar case more people would prob come out at that point with their stories, then he is stopped. Who goes to a coach or administator, that is what cops are for

There was an eye doctor that just got his practice destroyed and he is out of business due to sex allegations by a few patients so yes going to the cops and filing a charge can work

In an ideal world. In an ideal world telling an adult would be enough. Or, your coach, the person you spend more time with than anyone.
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... ce_re.html

The victims are victims, not the problems. This again reinforces why this should be the biggest news story.

I agree the victims are victims, I also strongly suggest to any human that if a crime is committed against you, go to law enforcement....last I checked coaches could not arrest or investigate anyone. Go to law enforcement!

not sure where you get this case was not publicized, espn has been all over it and the msm. When nobody comes forward to make charges there is nothing to talk about. Once that finally happened it got lots of attention

Click on the link. Someone did go to the police. It didn't prevent this. Once again, you are just flat out wrong.[/quote]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

[TheH2]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

[cwtcr hokie]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

[TheH2]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

[cwtcr hokie]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

Clearly you are making huge assumptions and no nothing about what I know. congrats. It is amazing that you cannot see another side of the issue, very open minded of you

[TheH2]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

You seem to ignore (or not understand) the ability people have to manipulate (especially children), which allows them to get away with it. That's the problem. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than going to the police. That's why this should be better publicized. People shouldn't think, if they only went to the police. People should try and understand why that didn't happen.

[TheH2]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

Clearly you are making huge assumptions and no nothing about what I know. congrats. It is amazing that you cannot see another side of the issue, very open minded of you

If only any of the victims told the police (is there a barfing emoji I can use?).

[cwtcr hokie]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

You seem to ignore (or not understand) the ability people have to manipulate (especially children), which allows them to get away with it. That's the problem. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than going to the police. That's why this should be better publicized. People shouldn't think, if they only went to the police. People should try and understand why that didn't happen.

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

[awesome guy]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

You seem to ignore (or not understand) the ability people have to manipulate (especially children), which allows them to get away with it. That's the problem. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than going to the police. That's why this should be better publicized. People shouldn't think, if they only went to the police. People should try and understand why that didn't happen.

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

It's funny because you smoke him in most debates. He has an amusing lack of critical thinking, hubris as a substitute for reason.

[cwtcr hokie]

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?

Maybe. You would think one was enough. If they go to the cops in their local cities maybe not. The majority of them were also minors and they look to their mentors for guidance, which didn't listen. It's a shame. Kids are impressionable. If the people they look up to aren't concerned with the allegations then they think there is nothing wrong. It's not as simple, which is exactly why it goes on for 30 years.

yea, all the cops in michigan are going to ignore charges against some sports doctor at MSU, the guy was that big of a celebrity. do you actually beleive that? If a crime is committed against you it is your responsibility as a human to come forward and report it, you are correct due to lack of evidence it may go no where but you don't know that until it is reported. If nothing is said then the criminal knows he can get away with it with no risk so he/she will keep stacking up victims. I agree, if you are the victim then life has just handed you a bucket of crap, life is not fair.

The first person that reported it wasn't in Michigan. Maybe the second reports in Michigan, and the third in Texas, and the fourth in Virginia. No guarantee. Regardless, you clearly don't know much about the case.

You seem to ignore (or not understand) the ability people have to manipulate (especially children), which allows them to get away with it. That's the problem. It's a hell of a lot more complicated than going to the police. That's why this should be better publicized. People shouldn't think, if they only went to the police. People should try and understand why that didn't happen.

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

It's funny because you smoke him in most debates. He has an amusing lack of critical thinking, hubris as a substitute for reason.[/quote]

He is a smart guy, I don't doubt that, but he has the same human flaw most have that want to consider any other ideas as being dumb. IIWII

I don't get his "story not publicized" rant though, if nobody is saying anything or pressing charges there is no story to publicize. As unpleasant as it may be victims of a crime have to come forward and get the law involved. (I think teenagers know what appropriate and inappropriate touching is, esp. in the last 20 years)

[TheH2]

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

Wasn't about smarts, it was solely about reading what happened. Again, if any. I also wasn't attempting to debate anything. There isn't even anything to debate. What the guy did was disgusting, no one would say otherwise.

I think this should be talked about more, as disgusting as it is, because people need to understand how this happened. That's all. It's clear that any of the victims going to police wasn't enough. There was also an investigation by another police department in 2014. That's two that failed. Sorry, your statements (or inability to translate your thoughts into words) indicate you don't know much about the case. That doesn't mean you aren't smart, it just means you don't know about this case and have an uninformed opinion.

My only point is that I think people should talk more about this. People need to understand that it isn't as simple as someone going to the police. Not just because the police may fail them, but because that step is made very difficult by the manipulative behavior of the perpetrator.

[ip_law-hokie]

or why didn't any of the first 50 females go to the cops? or their parents for that matter? I don't understand why it took 150 people to make an allegation to stop him, if the first few he ever messed with did then there would be 100+ that never had to deal with it

the dude is creepy besides but I guess being a doctor he could get away with it, strange

This is why it should be the biggest story. We should all be made aware of why it happened for 30 years.

There were complaints. Those complained were told it was a medical treatment. He was even investigated in 2014 and cleared. He was a sick dude that did at least one treatment with a parent in the room but positioned himself so the parents couldn't see what was going on. If the parents were ok with it then it must be ok right? You should listen to the testimony by Raisman.

A story by the local newspaper was the straw. Gotta love the press.

If a crime is committed against you then go to the cops, not some organization, that is my issue. Go to the cops and make a charge against the person, it gets investigated and in the Nassar case more people would prob come out at that point with their stories, then he is stopped. Who goes to a coach or administator, that is what cops are for

There was an eye doctor that just got his practice destroyed and he is out of business due to sex allegations by a few patients so yes going to the cops and filing a charge can work

In an ideal world. In an ideal world telling an adult would be enough. Or, your coach, the person you spend more time with than anyone.
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/201 ... ce_re.html

The victims are victims, not the problems. This again reinforces why this should be the biggest news story.

I agree the victims are victims, I also strongly suggest to any human that if a crime is committed against you, go to law enforcement....last I checked coaches could not arrest or investigate anyone. Go to law enforcement!

not sure where you get this case was not publicized, espn has been all over it and the msm. When nobody comes forward to make charges there is nothing to talk about. Once that finally happened it got lots of attention

Click on the link. Someone did go to the police. It didn't prevent this. Once again, you are just flat out wrong.

correct, so maybe ANYONE THAT A CRIME IS COMMITTED AGAINST GO REPORT IT, I agree 1 or 5 may not be enough but if the 10th person that is assaulted and goes to the cops gets the guy stopped then there are 175 less victims, correct?[/quote]

Are you blaming 10 year old kids for not having the wherewithal to first understand that their doctor is sexually abusing them and then not reporting those acts to authorities?


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[HokieFanDC]

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

Wasn't about smarts, it was solely about reading what happened. Again, if any. I also wasn't attempting to debate anything. There isn't even anything to debate. What the guy did was disgusting, no one would say otherwise.

I think this should be talked about more, as disgusting as it is, because people need to understand how this happened. That's all. It's clear that any of the victims going to police wasn't enough. There was also an investigation by another police department in 2014. That's two that failed. Sorry, your statements (or inability to translate your thoughts into words) indicate you don't know much about the case. That doesn't mean you aren't smart, it just means you don't know about this case and have an uninformed opinion.

My only point is that I think people should talk more about this. People need to understand that it isn't as simple as someone going to the police. Not just because the police may fail them, but because that step is made very difficult by the manipulative behavior of the perpetrator.

The whole high level competitive gymnastics world has always seemed manipulative and creepy to me. The power is held by such a small group of people and if you want to be a part of it, I'm sure there is a ton of fear about rocking the boat.

[cwtcr hokie]

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

Wasn't about smarts, it was solely about reading what happened. Again, if any. I also wasn't attempting to debate anything. There isn't even anything to debate. What the guy did was disgusting, no one would say otherwise.

I think this should be talked about more, as disgusting as it is, because people need to understand how this happened. That's all. It's clear that any of the victims going to police wasn't enough. There was also an investigation by another police department in 2014. That's two that failed. Sorry, your statements (or inability to translate your thoughts into words) indicate you don't know much about the case. That doesn't mean you aren't smart, it just means you don't know about this case and have an uninformed opinion.

My only point is that I think people should talk more about this. People need to understand that it isn't as simple as someone going to the police. Not just because the police may fail them, but because that step is made very difficult by the manipulative behavior of the perpetrator.

Who is not talking about it, it is taught in school what is appropriate touching, it is brought up all the time....you do realize it is 2018 don't you

[awesome guy]

I am a bit smarter than you think I am, so I fully understand. I just love it tho when you go into your I am sooooo much smarter than you routine. But since it is impossible to debate with someone that stoops to that tactic then I think our conversation is over. Ignore any other ideas please, great way go thru life

Wasn't about smarts, it was solely about reading what happened. Again, if any. I also wasn't attempting to debate anything. There isn't even anything to debate. What the guy did was disgusting, no one would say otherwise.

I think this should be talked about more, as disgusting as it is, because people need to understand how this happened. That's all. It's clear that any of the victims going to police wasn't enough. There was also an investigation by another police department in 2014. That's two that failed. Sorry, your statements (or inability to translate your thoughts into words) indicate you don't know much about the case. That doesn't mean you aren't smart, it just means you don't know about this case and have an uninformed opinion.

My only point is that I think people should talk more about this. People need to understand that it isn't as simple as someone going to the police. Not just because the police may fail them, but because that step is made very difficult by the manipulative behavior of the perpetrator.

Who is not talking about it, it is taught in school what is appropriate touching, it is brought up all the time....you do realize it is 2018 don't you

They're not all 10 either. I think they judged Olympic outlook as being more important than justice and so kept quiet.