Page 1 of 2

Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:21 pm
by USN_Hokie
Not seeing a down side here...
In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

The plan is part of an effort to reform SNAP and save a projected $214 billion over a decade. It would give all households receiving more than $90 a month in cash a food-aid package that would "include items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish," according to the proposal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rican-food

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:48 am
by Bay_area_Hokie
Don’t they have all the cash register systems programmed to not take food stamp for dog food and beer? Why don’t they just do the same for twinkies?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:08 pm
by ip_law-hokie
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:Don’t they have all the cash register systems programmed to not take food stamp for dog food and beer? Why don’t they just do the same for twinkies?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The govt can get the food for less instead of paying retail.

Right now the government pays retail prices.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:10 pm
by ip_law-hokie
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:Don’t they have all the cash register systems programmed to not take food stamp for dog food and beer? Why don’t they just do the same for twinkies?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The govt can get the food at wholesale prices instead of paying (e.g.) Walmart retail prices.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:44 pm
by CFB Apologist
The only people that would disagree or see a "downside" to this proposal are 1. People that hate Trump, no matter what policy/law/recommendations he brings forth and 2. Globalist trash that think 3 hot, good meals a day on white china is a birthright, and no cuts to free food programs are acceptable.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:49 pm
by cwtcr hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:Not seeing a down side here...
In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

The plan is part of an effort to reform SNAP and save a projected $214 billion over a decade. It would give all households receiving more than $90 a month in cash a food-aid package that would "include items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish," according to the proposal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rican-food
how exactly do you trade milk for cocaine? that plan is not going to work well for those folks

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:55 pm
by awesome guy
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:Not seeing a down side here...
In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

The plan is part of an effort to reform SNAP and save a projected $214 billion over a decade. It would give all households receiving more than $90 a month in cash a food-aid package that would "include items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish," according to the proposal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rican-food
how exactly do you trade milk for cocaine? that plan is not going to work well for those folks
Yep, that's why it's a great plan.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:21 pm
by USN_Hokie
awesome guy wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:Not seeing a down side here...
In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

The plan is part of an effort to reform SNAP and save a projected $214 billion over a decade. It would give all households receiving more than $90 a month in cash a food-aid package that would "include items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish," according to the proposal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rican-food
how exactly do you trade milk for cocaine? that plan is not going to work well for those folks
Yep, that's why it's a great plan.
Democrats are frantically googling for slavery/Jim Crow references to "food boxes", count on it.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:34 pm
by Major Kong
Stupid plan...the 1st box recipient that gets sick from the contents will sue the beejeebus out of the gubment...then all box recipients will get sick and sue the gubment.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 pm
by 133743Hokie
What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:38 pm
by HokieFanDC
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:26 pm
by TheH2
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:46 pm
by cwtcr hokie
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
or make the food cards non-transferrable, cannot be used unless used by the one it is issued to, takes all the scamming out of the system. And put tight restrictions on what can be bought

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:58 pm
by HokieHam
TheH2 wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!
Soylent Green.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:00 pm
by HokieFanDC
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
or make the food cards non-transferrable, cannot be used unless used by the one it is issued to, takes all the scamming out of the system. And put tight restrictions on what can be bought
SNAP cards are like debit cards, they have a PIN number. Obviously, anyone can give someone their PIN.

And there are pretty tight restrictions on what you can buy. It's limited to food items. That includes candy and chips, but other than that, it's a pretty good list IMO.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:03 pm
by USN_Hokie
TheH2 wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!
Sounds good to me. They can make a sandwich with some government cheese. Being on welfare should suck.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:21 pm
by TheH2
HokieHam wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!
Soylent Green.
Or just Soylent
https://www.soylent.com/

Less human flesh, presumably.....

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:18 pm
by CFB Apologist
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
or make the food cards non-transferrable, cannot be used unless used by the one it is issued to, takes all the scamming out of the system. And put tight restrictions on what can be bought
SNAP cards are like debit cards, they have a PIN number. Obviously, anyone can give someone their PIN.

And there are pretty tight restrictions on what you can buy. It's limited to food items. That includes candy and chips, but other than that, it's a pretty good list IMO.
The libs on social media crying about this "big government" program are hilarious. really. "Who are they to tell us what we can eat".. lololololololol. The soda tax party.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:43 pm
by Mcl3 Hokie
Trump needs to market this as an extension to Michelle Obama's school lunch program. He's only doing it to help combat childhood obesity and adult type II diabetes.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:59 pm
by 133743Hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
or make the food cards non-transferrable, cannot be used unless used by the one it is issued to, takes all the scamming out of the system. And put tight restrictions on what can be bought
SNAP cards are like debit cards, they have a PIN number. Obviously, anyone can give someone their PIN.

And there are pretty tight restrictions on what you can buy. It's limited to food items. That includes candy and chips, but other than that, it's a pretty good list IMO.
Agree that what can be purchased is better controlled now, but there us a huge black market in selling cards for cash.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:04 pm
by 133743Hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
I can't imagine that there is any savings. The govt. isn't going to ship food to people. That's inefficient and cost prohibitive, and people are too mobile. So are they going to set up pick-up centers? Again inefficient and cost prohibitive. Are they going to bulk purchase thru grocery stores and have it boxed for pickup? Very cumbersome. Who is allowed to make tge pick up? What about all the low income areas without grocery stores? Plus, the grocery business is high volume, low profit margin, so again i don't see where any cost savings will come from.

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:05 pm
by 133743Hokie
TheH2 wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!
Is that like Vegimite?

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:11 pm
by TheH2
133743Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!
Is that like Vegimite?
It's prison food. Basically leftovers from the past few days (apparently the worst of the leftovers - which I guess could be assumed by being leftover), lumped together and baked. Some states have considered it inhumane (I'm sure there is a better legal word).

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:18 pm
by cwtcr hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
or make the food cards non-transferrable, cannot be used unless used by the one it is issued to, takes all the scamming out of the system. And put tight restrictions on what can be bought
SNAP cards are like debit cards, they have a PIN number. Obviously, anyone can give someone their PIN.

And there are pretty tight restrictions on what you can buy. It's limited to food items. That includes candy and chips, but other than that, it's a pretty good list IMO.
I thought there were decent controls on what they can buy but seriously, make them only workable for the actual person the card is issued to, ya know that pesky ID thingie

Re: Trump Budget Would Scrap Food Stamps

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:19 pm
by USN_Hokie
TheH2 wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:What is going to be the added administrative cost of the government procuring food? There is a lot to it. And is this cost going to consume any potential savings (the government can't do anything efficiently)?
There’s still a lot of cushion in the savings for Gov inefficiency.
It does sound good in theory, though. The bigger issues with programs like this usually come from food quality.
Just give them some nutraloaf!
Is that like Vegimite?
It's prison food. Basically leftovers from the past few days (apparently the worst of the leftovers - which I guess could be assumed by being leftover), lumped together and baked. Some states have considered it inhumane (I'm sure there is a better legal word).
Casserole is inhumane? It must be made by my MIL.