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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
It's our whole constitution, not just the 2nd amendment. It's the whole collection of freedoms that we have. We're unique.
Gun freedoms cost more lives than other freedoms.


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You could not be more wrong. The freedom to eat disgusting fried foods- available on every corner for cheap- kills 100 fold more people than guns.
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BG Hokie wrote:And actually I think it's insane that over a half of 1% of America's deaths come at the hands of guns. Fair to say that's the leader in the clubhouse relative to other countries, correct? A good example of our freedom being costly with respect to human life.
And how many more lives do our freedoms:
1- save
2- improve the quality of

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
It's our whole constitution, not just the 2nd amendment. It's the whole collection of freedoms that we have. We're unique.
Gun freedoms cost more lives than other freedoms.


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Uh...yeaaahhh, -No.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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The AR15 is the most popular gun in America. They pop up in more crimes for the same reason that F150s and Camrys show up on more car accidents.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
It's our whole constitution, not just the 2nd amendment. It's the whole collection of freedoms that we have. We're unique.
Gun freedoms cost more lives than other freedoms.


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I'm pretty sure the "right to privacy" takes that title. 652,639 legal abortions in 2014 per the CDC.

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You guys sure are insecure about all this.


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CFB Apologist wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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The Left Wing doesn't know what an AR15 is, does, or is used for. Doesn't stop them from using that lie/falsehood to scare people though. Their knowledge of guns is minuscule, but you listen to them.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:You guys sure are insecure about all this.


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1- who are "you guys"
2- what have you seen that's "insecure"?

I don't get this post
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BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
of course if it was not a gun free zone and he would have faced any resistance his kill count would have been zero or close to zero
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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any other rifle with a clip is just as useful as the scary "ar-15"
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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any other rifle with a clip is just as useful as the scary "ar-15"
Dental floss could have done the trick too.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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any other rifle with a clip is just as useful as the scary "ar-15"
Dental floss could have done the trick too.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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any other rifle with a clip is just as useful as the scary "ar-15"
Dental floss could have done the trick too.


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This is the argument that pisses me off. The AR15 is no more dangerous than a 9MM handgun- that is a fact. That is not opinion, that is not hyperbole, that is not a talking point it is a fact. "Automatic" weapons were banned in the US for civilian use in 1930. The "AR15" which you claim in "much more dangerous, scary, barbaric, etc" with your stupid dental floss comment is just flat wrong. Zero truth or fact in that- zero. It is a .223 (in some cases) semi automatic rifle. Simple. Fact. It's nothing more. In fact- a semi automatic shotgun- which doesn't get your panties bunched up for some reason, is much more dangerous and powerful than a civilian AR15. 98% of handguns made today are "semi-automatic" just like the barbaric AR15, which you claim has some super scary power. You are wrong, 100%, but you and the liberal media keep pushing a narrative so that you can take freedoms away from law abiding citizens. It's sick.
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RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:You guys sure are insecure about all this.


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1- who are "you guys"
2- what have you seen that's "insecure"?

I don't get this post
It’s the typical lib argument. Next he’ll connect guns to penis envy.....
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CFB Apologist wrote:" day on social media, if you care to engage.
CFB, you nailed it
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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any other rifle with a clip is just as useful as the scary "ar-15"
Dental floss could have done the trick too.


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got it
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HokieHam wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:You guys sure are insecure about all this.


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1- who are "you guys"
2- what have you seen that's "insecure"?

I don't get this post
It’s the typical lib argument. Next he’ll connect guns to penis envy.....
Nah Uncle Fester is just a troll, no way to actually get a coherent conversation with him
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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What? AR-15s are protected
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
It's our whole constitution, not just the 2nd amendment. It's the whole collection of freedoms that we have. We're unique.
Gun freedoms cost more lives than other freedoms.


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Not true, but keep on keeping on.
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133743Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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What? AR-15s are protected
Nope.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/as ... es-n724106




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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:Yeah, mass shooting are certainly the emotional ones. The same question applies to all shootings, however, and I'm surprised I can't get an answer from anybody on this board.

When it comes to our disproportionate gun homicide rate relative to other countries, I think it's safe to say our 2nd amendment freedom is costly, correct?
I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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What? AR-15s are protected
Nope.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/as ... es-n724106




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So an appeals court for a ruling in MD means they aren't protected? Tell me you have more than that.
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133743Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I’d say a vigorous defense of any and all gun rights is costly, not necessarily the 2nd amendment.




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Not sure I understand what you are trying to argue.
The right wing has instilled the notion that AR-15s, bump stocks and other barbaric excrement is protected by the Second Amendment when they often are not.


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What? AR-15s are protected
Nope.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/as ... es-n724106




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So an appeals court for a ruling in MD means they aren't protected? Tell me you have more than that.
Just a case directly on point.


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ip_law-hokie wrote: Just a case directly on point.


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The AR15 falls into any reasonable interpretation of the definition laid out in Heller. The 4CA decision was horrible and it was a shame the SCOTUS didn't take it - partially because both sides were worried about how Kennedy would side.

Now, when Kennedy retires and the Grim Reaper catches up with RBG.....
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