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Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:18 pm
by nolanvt
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:21 pm
by UpstateSCHokie
I don't like Mark Cuban, but I don't see why he should have to sell his team for this. Are we now to the point that we are holding people responsible for the private lives of people they employ? I assume this is just the latest attempt to put some sort of blame on Trump, so the left is willing to sacrifice one of their own to do it.
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:31 pm
by nolanvt
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
I don't like Mark Cuban, but I don't see why he should have to sell his team for this. Are we now to the point that we are holding people responsible for the private lives of people they employ? I assume this is just the latest attempt to put some sort of blame on Trump, so the left is willing to sacrifice one of their own to do it.
Cuban knew given his level of micromanagement in other aspects of the organization, and there was already an “internal investigation” on the guy 20 years ago.
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Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:16 am
by Bay_area_Hokie
So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:55 am
by awesome guy
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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It's atheist taking over. Forgiveness and redemption only exists for the elite in their world. The same people that overlooked Clinton rape accusations are demanding this guy and Cuban get canned. They mistake Christianity as believing in sky people, but it's really about redemption with God and thusly redemption amongst each other. Atheist have no equivalent, unless you're one of their team.
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:55 am
by nolanvt
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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Haven’t made up my mind on this one yet, but the issue isn’t “crimes committed outside of work”.
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Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:37 pm
by awesome guy
nolanvt wrote:Bay_area_Hokie wrote:So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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Haven’t made up my mind on this one yet, but the issue isn’t “crimes committed outside of work”.
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Uh huh
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:31 pm
by cwtcr hokie
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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That is where we are at, if you have anyone working for you that is accused of anything they must be fired... not arrested, not charged, not indicted, not convicted, if accused they should never work again!!!!
And Cuban's shot at running for prez is OVER!
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:33 pm
by cwtcr hokie
nolanvt wrote:Bay_area_Hokie wrote:So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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Haven’t made up my mind on this one yet, but the issue isn’t “crimes committed outside of work”.
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There are now claims of harassment....now, not when they actually occurred. According to the claims the place was a virtual orgy every day, kewl place to work!!! Esp. if the cheerleaders are involved. It also sounds like there were a crappy boss or two there...... which happens, its called life
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:36 pm
by cwtcr hokie
in the stupid country we live in now, of course..... and I guess he can go back to liking Trump as his run for prez is over
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:14 pm
by TheH2
I've read only bits and pieces of the story. If Cuban knew of harassment happening at his workplace and did nothing, covered it up, or continued to support those responsible, he may be forced out.
I believe there are two stories that overlap. One, a person on his staff had been accused (convicted?) of sexual harassment in the past. Hiring, or continuing to employ this person is not a crime. He will not be forced to sell his franchise over this. Now, employing someone that continues to harass, that he is made aware of, and does nothing, then yes, there will be consequences. Selling the team, not sure. It really all depends on what he knows. So far he has answered questions and started to clean house.
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:05 pm
by cwtcr hokie
TheH2 wrote:
I've read only bits and pieces of the story. If Cuban knew of harassment happening at his workplace and did nothing, covered it up, or continued to support those responsible, he may be forced out.
I believe there are two stories that overlap. One, a person on his staff had been accused (convicted?) of sexual harassment in the past. Hiring, or continuing to employ this person is not a crime. He will not be forced to sell his franchise over this. Now, employing someone that continues to harass, that he is made aware of, and does nothing, then yes, there will be consequences. Selling the team, not sure. It really all depends on what he knows. So far he has answered questions and started to clean house.
accused of harassment or the harasser admitted to it.... from GMA this morning the guy involved denies the stuff and has had counseling or something as I think the issue is he sucks at being a boss. Per GMA the issue was domestic violence, no idea how that relates to the office unless the guy is in jail and can't get to work
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:16 pm
by nolanvt
cwtcr hokie wrote:TheH2 wrote:
I've read only bits and pieces of the story. If Cuban knew of harassment happening at his workplace and did nothing, covered it up, or continued to support those responsible, he may be forced out.
I believe there are two stories that overlap. One, a person on his staff had been accused (convicted?) of sexual harassment in the past. Hiring, or continuing to employ this person is not a crime. He will not be forced to sell his franchise over this. Now, employing someone that continues to harass, that he is made aware of, and does nothing, then yes, there will be consequences. Selling the team, not sure. It really all depends on what he knows. So far he has answered questions and started to clean house.
accused of harassment or the harasser admitted to it.... from GMA this morning the guy involved denies the stuff and has had counseling or something as I think the issue is he sucks at being a boss. Per GMA the issue was domestic violence, no idea how that relates to the office unless the guy is in jail and can't get to work
Well, one guy beat a woman who worked for the Mavs as well. Any good employer would intervene at that point.
As for Ussery, he was forced out of Under Armour after three months, probably because Under Armour didn’t dick around like Cuban.
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Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:03 pm
by TheH2
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:So you are supposed to fire people for crimes committed outside of work? What if you fired a young urban adult because they sold a dime bag of weed when they were 18 and living in the projects?
People are so crazy now. I don’t think our species is worth saving sometimes.
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I agree with the premise. However, it doesn't seem to be relevant in this case since it was happening at the workplace.
Re: Will Mark Cuban be forced to sell team?
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:05 pm
by cwtcr hokie
nolanvt wrote:cwtcr hokie wrote:TheH2 wrote:
I've read only bits and pieces of the story. If Cuban knew of harassment happening at his workplace and did nothing, covered it up, or continued to support those responsible, he may be forced out.
I believe there are two stories that overlap. One, a person on his staff had been accused (convicted?) of sexual harassment in the past. Hiring, or continuing to employ this person is not a crime. He will not be forced to sell his franchise over this. Now, employing someone that continues to harass, that he is made aware of, and does nothing, then yes, there will be consequences. Selling the team, not sure. It really all depends on what he knows. So far he has answered questions and started to clean house.
accused of harassment or the harasser admitted to it.... from GMA this morning the guy involved denies the stuff and has had counseling or something as I think the issue is he sucks at being a boss. Per GMA the issue was domestic violence, no idea how that relates to the office unless the guy is in jail and can't get to work
Well, one guy beat a woman who worked for the Mavs as well. Any good employer would intervene at that point.
As for Ussery, he was forced out of Under Armour after three months, probably because Under Armour didn’t dick around like Cuban.
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he was convicted of assault, yea grounds for firing
fyi, the Ussery guy was an employee when cuban bought the team, he was inherited. And yes it sounds like he was not a great boss. Of course all of the allegations are from years ago as he has not been with the mavs in over 3 years.... and they come out now? Per ESPN I saw at the gym he is accused of touching a thigh of a female employee and using bad pickup lines