ip_law-hokie wrote:How Europe is able to produce and export steel cheaper than we can produce it here?
No political angle here. I just do not understand how that is possible.
You can't be serious?
Sure I am.
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133743Hokie wrote:So, based on 2017 data here's what I've found. US produced 82 metric tonnes (not sure of the units as that seems small, but the numeric figures are correct) in 2017. Imported 2.5 per month, on average, and exported 0.5 per month on average. So a deficit of 2 per month or 24 per year. Looks like about 30% imports. Interestingly US is operating at only 75% capacity, roughly.
Good info
Just an aside...back in my smelting days (copper) I know that a great deal of primary feed for steel was recycled steel (we call it reverts).
My first job was at Roanoke Electric Steel for two summers while in college. First year evening shift on the yard, second year graveyard in the melt shop.
Electric furnace production (reverts) now accounts for some 70% of domestic steel production, with blast furnace production from basic raw materials declining over the past twenty some years from about 60% to 30%. Thank you ClintonGoreBushObamaEPA. Electric furnace production employs excellent technology and scrap metal recycling has always played a role in steel production. Recycling is not a long term growth strategy, however. Basic production from raw materials
is fundamental for growth.
ip_law-hokie wrote:How Europe is able to produce and export steel cheaper than we can produce it here?
No political angle here. I just do not understand how that is possible.
You can't be serious?
Sure I am.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:How Europe is able to produce and export steel cheaper than we can produce it here?
No political angle here. I just do not understand how that is possible.
You can't be serious?
Sure I am.
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American Fender Strat - $1,200.00. Mexican Strat $400.00; Gibson guitar made in Nashville..$4,000.00; Epiphone guitar made in Taiwan- $300.00. Do I need to go on?
Which ones were made in Europe?
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ip_law-hokie wrote:How Europe is able to produce and export steel cheaper than we can produce it here?
No political angle here. I just do not understand how that is possible.
You can't be serious?
Sure I am.
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American Fender Strat - $1,200.00. Mexican Strat $400.00; Gibson guitar made in Nashville..$4,000.00; Epiphone guitar made in Taiwan- $300.00. Do I need to go on?
ip_law-hokie wrote:How Europe is able to produce and export steel cheaper than we can produce it here?
No political angle here. I just do not understand how that is possible.
You can't be serious?
Sure I am.
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American Fender Strat - $1,200.00. Mexican Strat $400.00; Gibson guitar made in Nashville..$4,000.00; Epiphone guitar made in Taiwan- $300.00. Do I need to go on?
Woosh
Which ones were made in Europe?
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I agree. You misread my question.
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miles wrote:My first job was at Roanoke Electric Steel for two summers while in college. First year evening shift on the yard, second year graveyard in the melt shop.
Electric furnace production (reverts) now accounts for some 70% of domestic steel production, with blast furnace production from basic raw materials declining over the past twenty some years from about 60% to 30%. Thank you ClintonGoreBushObamaEPA. Electric furnace production employs excellent technology and scrap metal recycling has always played a role in steel production. Recycling is not a long term growth strategy, however. Basic production from raw materials
is fundamental for growth.
Ayup...people don't realize that when scrap metals grow scarce metal prices go up and different feeds are needed (at least this is so in copper & nickel smelting).
A lot of folks associate coal mining with electric generation but if steel production increases then "met" coal is going to be needed to produce coke...it would be nice to see the Jewell Smokeless Ovens cranked up to full capacity.
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