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Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @VT?

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:24 am
by USN_Hokie
I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:30 am
by UpstateSCHokie
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
Sorry but that new logo just does not inspire me to give. Think I'll donate to the NRA instead.

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Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:12 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
You received an education and basis to earn a living that was established, administered and subsidized by the entity which you detest.

I presume it served you well as you left school to serve that same general entity.


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Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:16 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
You received an education and basis to earn a living that was established, administered and subsidized by the entity which you detest.

I presume it served you well as you left school to serve that same general entity.


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It was subsidized by me as a taxpayer and I paid considerably for it - thanks for the tip, though!

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:47 pm
by RiverguyVT
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
Sorry but that new logo just does not inspire me to give. Think I'll donate to the NRA instead.

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I was thinking that VT was a hotbed of bigotry...but then that new logo came out, what with its gaps and all, and now I KNOW that ours is an inclusive school. Whew!! Good thing we’ve got PC Principal in charge.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:52 pm
by 133743Hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
It's what you already got.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:36 pm
by cwtcr hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
You received an education and basis to earn a living that was established, administered and subsidized by the entity which you detest.

I presume it served you well as you left school to serve that same general entity.


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dang, why the heck didn't I get free school, my time and all services used were paid for with my dollars

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:21 pm
by ip_law-hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
You received an education and basis to earn a living that was established, administered and subsidized by the entity which you detest.

I presume it served you well as you left school to serve that same general entity.


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dang, why the heck didn't I get free school, my time and all services used were paid for with my dollars
that's a separate discussion. yet the facts are, given the choice 10-40 years ago to attend a state school, or a private school, we all chose to go with the school run by the state.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:51 pm
by ElbertoHokie
They've got to get the money from somewhere. State of VA only provides 25% of the schools operating budget and that's rapidly decreasing. VT doesn't call itself a public school anymore. Research Institution. I know that PO'ed the General Assembly when they did it.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:52 pm
by HokieJoe
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
Sorry but that new logo just does not inspire me to give. Think I'll donate to the NRA instead.

Image

That logo sucks.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:00 pm
by ip_law-hokie
HokieJoe wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
Sorry but that new logo just does not inspire me to give. Think I'll donate to the NRA instead.

Image

That logo sucks.
I like it.


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Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:06 pm
by RiverguyVT
HokieJoe wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
Sorry but that new logo just does not inspire me to give. Think I'll donate to the NRA instead.

Image

That logo sucks.
Oh come on!! It proves we aren't bigots! We are open and inclusive

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:56 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
You received an education and basis to earn a living that was established, administered and subsidized by the entity which you detest.

I presume it served you well as you left school to serve that same general entity.


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dang, why the heck didn't I get free school, my time and all services used were paid for with my dollars
that's a separate discussion. yet the facts are, given the choice 10-40 years ago to attend a state school, or a private school, we all chose to go with the school run by the state.
I'll go ahead and file this with "Libertarians are hypocrites for using public roads", "people who want to close tax loopholes are hypocrites for taking advantage of tax loopholes", and other greatest hits from the underpants gnome logic school.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:55 pm
by cwtcr hokie
ElbertoHokie wrote:They've got to get the money from somewhere. State of VA only provides 25% of the schools operating budget and that's rapidly decreasing. VT doesn't call itself a public school anymore. Research Institution. I know that PO'ed the General Assembly when they did it.
How do we pay all the athletes (pay them as employees) if the school is so broke?

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:46 pm
by BG Hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619
Sorry but that new logo just does not inspire me to give. Think I'll donate to the NRA instead.

Image

That logo sucks.
Oh come on!! It proves we aren't bigots! We are open and inclusive
Partisan conservatives are offended by librul logos!

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:47 pm
by BG Hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:They've got to get the money from somewhere. State of VA only provides 25% of the schools operating budget and that's rapidly decreasing. VT doesn't call itself a public school anymore. Research Institution. I know that PO'ed the General Assembly when they did it.
How do we pay all the athletes (pay them as employees) if the school is so broke?
We don't...

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:50 pm
by USN_Hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:They've got to get the money from somewhere. State of VA only provides 25% of the schools operating budget and that's rapidly decreasing. VT doesn't call itself a public school anymore. Research Institution. I know that PO'ed the General Assembly when they did it.
How do we pay all the athletes (pay them as employees) if the school is so broke?
The universities are swimming in cash provided by out of state and foreign students, bolstered by generous federal loan terms.

We're long past debating whether schools are getting enough money when they have enough to build dorms that look like castles (see upper quad), hire engineering education deans who think scientific method is sexist (see other thread), or have enough cash at an engineering school to blow on a dance theater:

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Sands wants to run Tech like a private school with a big endowment. Have at it.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:02 pm
by oaktonhokie
As long as Sands is there, i give nothing. Other than what is necessary to get season FB tix.

And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.

USN_Hokie wrote:I'm excited - what do you think we're going to get? :mrgreen:

https://givingday.vt.edu/giving-day/4619

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:03 pm
by cwtcr hokie
BG Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ElbertoHokie wrote:They've got to get the money from somewhere. State of VA only provides 25% of the schools operating budget and that's rapidly decreasing. VT doesn't call itself a public school anymore. Research Institution. I know that PO'ed the General Assembly when they did it.
How do we pay all the athletes (pay them as employees) if the school is so broke?
We don't...
It is hard to have it both ways, right? The schools in division 1 are making buckets of money and should have no issue paying the athletes that are on the sports teams or the schools are not swimming in money and have to beg to get enough funds to run it.

I have some background with the state of VT finances anyways and the budgets were always tight, the school is not swimming in cash.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:07 pm
by USN_Hokie
oaktonhokie wrote: And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.
... What?

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:11 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
oaktonhokie wrote: And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.
... What?
Truth.


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Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:15 pm
by cwtcr hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
oaktonhokie wrote: And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.
... What?
Fester approves as all people other than him are racist

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:20 pm
by ip_law-hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
oaktonhokie wrote: And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.
... What?
Fester approves as all people other than him are racist
It's not about approving or disapproving, cwtcr. It's about facts. The notion that Abraham Lincoln thought whites were superior to blacks on the basis of their race is not debatable.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:30 pm
by oaktonhokie
That is a fair point if a bit exaggerated.

And that is what the teacher said when i challenged him in class.

But the insidious part is that he uses a 21st century phrase, white supremacist, which at its base means racist, and applies it to the man who authored the emancipation proclamation. And he uses that term, one that all the kids have heard and understand to mean RACIST, in lecturing a bunch of 20 year old kids who see him regrettably as a role model and an authority on he subject.

By his definition, i would guess that about 98% of white people were white supremacists in 1863. Lincoln was a free soil guy. He was against slavery. But by using 21st century PC terms that mean racist, he is able to paint abe lincoln as a virtual klansman.

This teacher is all about racism. EVERYTHING is about racism. And 20 year old kids are the worse for it.

ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
oaktonhokie wrote: And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.
... What?
Fester approves as all people other than him are racist
It's not about approving or disapproving, cwtcr. It's about facts. The notion that Abraham Lincoln thought whites were superior to blacks on the basis of their race is not debatable.

Re: Did everyone else get the announcement of "Giving Day" @

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:34 pm
by ip_law-hokie
I think you are underestimating your fellow student's ability to understand the point that should be made.

And of course the civil war professor is all about racism. the war was fought over slavery.
oaktonhokie wrote:That is a fair point if a bit exaggerated.

And that is what the teacher said when i challenged him in class.

But the insidious part is that he uses a 21st century phrase, white supremacist, which at its base means racist, and applies it to the man who authored the emancipation proclamation. And he uses that term, one that all the kids have heard and understand to mean RACIST, in lecturing a bunch of 20 year old kids who see him regrettably as a role model and an authority on he subject.

By his definition, i would guess that about 98% of white people were white supremacists in 1863. Lincoln was a free soil guy. He was against slavery. But by using 21st century PC terms that mean racist, he is able to paint abe lincoln as a virtual klansman.

This teacher is all about racism. EVERYTHING is about racism. And 20 year old kids are the worse for it.

ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
oaktonhokie wrote: And today, in civil war history class, we were told, "Abraham Lincoln was a white supremacist. Unequivocally."

He went on to say that "...the fight may have went on longer..."

THIS is what Sands has teaching at alma mater.
... What?
Fester approves as all people other than him are racist
It's not about approving or disapproving, cwtcr. It's about facts. The notion that Abraham Lincoln thought whites were superior to blacks on the basis of their race is not debatable.