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So the "star" of the "March for our Lives" movement (AKA confiscate the guns movement) apparently did not even know any of the victims at his high school. So what the hell makes him the so-called "expert" and go-to person to speak for these kids??
DAVID HOGG: I didn't know most of these people at a very personal level, but I wanted to make their voices heard and that's what I'm really trying to do.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/march-for- ... to-action/
Meanwhile, there are pro 2A family members that the media is blacking out and ignoring. Anyone who cannot see through this fake phony outrage and does not understand that this really nothing more than using a tragedy to once again push an agenda that has nothing to do with what happened, is a complete buffoon.

David Hogg and Emma Gonzales are nothing more than demagogues that are exploiting their classmates death to attack our Constitutional Rights. These shameless leftists that (like their fellow leftists) are not letting a tragedy go to waste. Hopefully their clown show has caused NRA memberships to surge!

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The Stupidity of the 'March For Our Lives'
Kevin McCullough
Posted: Mar 25, 2018 12:01 AM

It was more irritating than anything else.

The virtue signaling over one’s disagreement with “A March For Our Lives” reached fever pitch with the culmination of Saturday’s event.

Yet a trend across social media seemed to be playing out. If someone criticized David Hogg, Alex Wind, or Emma Gonzales there was an immediate lashing out in response. These teens and two of their comrades appear on this week’s cover of TIME magazine. Two weeks ago they traveled to Dubai to be part of an international symposium on education. They have sucked up nearly every available second of possible air time on CNN & MSNBC (while obviously avoiding actual journalism.) They’ve also had ample amounts of cash and exposure thrown their way.

Saturday’s march was to be the pinnacle of this outrage movement that has largely been propped up by false pretense.

These young people—immediately thrown into one of the most manipulated controversies of our time—are angry, opportunistic and—just a month after their classmates were needlessly lost—now instant celebrities.

Even though they have little more than a junior high level of education under their belt. The political left, driven by a leftist media, and financed by uber-rich and hard-left celebrities are willing to use them, and to continue to use them to advance their socialist utopia ideals. (One of the primary ideas of which has always included disarming the masses.)

Even though first year grad school students have literally multiple times the actual knowledge on the issues pertaining to the social science of guns, their effects, and the good and bad attributed to their owners, the lazy media continue to treat these five kids as though they have PHD’s.

If anyone questions it, the virtue signaling begins.

But to what good?

The moralizing and lecturing from these manipulated teens has gone roughly as far as it will go. David Hogg doesn’t believe it of course. Hence his continued threats towards legislators in this election cycle promising to oust those who do “nothing.”

Catch Hogg in a more intimate setting (like the video that went viral late this week) and you see a much less measured maniac, cursing vulgarity with hubris unchecked basically advocating that teens shouldn’t just be in charge of gun policy, but even control of all internet devices. Because… parents are stupid. (Marxist much?)

Never mind that the March offered no concrete plan to make our schools safe. It couldn’t. That would require a focus on the actual schools, their current security set-ups, and asking questions like, “In the side by side of two school shootings in Florida and Maryland, why were the outcomes so different?”

Instead Hogg and his belligerent band of media hyped know-nothings spout their misunderstood self-researched “facts,” lead chants of “enough is enough,” and then play the untouchables when someone calls them on their inaccuracies.

It is not a “personal attack” on these kids to say that they are “misinformed, arrogant, and misguided.” It’s a statement of fact. And the moment they accepted a litany of interviews for CNN their ideas became fair game.

It is certainly the opposite of “personal attacks" if the policies they are trying to gather steam for (banning of certain types of instruments, advocating for ages of legality, all while mix-minusing the moral question) are ones that will put more children (like mine) at greater risk in years to come.

You don’t get to use your victimization (as real as it was) to advocate for an even less safe school for my children.

The truth is Saturday’s “historic” and “record breaking” march had barely more in turn out than some annual marches held in Washington every year. For instance the (not to be confused by its much longer standing moniker) “March For Life” turns out a crowd roughly the same size in DC every January and has since 1974. Technically that’s millions more marchers and mostly silence from media.

The DC police refused to release numbers on Saturday, but the Washington Metro only reported a slight bump in usage, where in 2017 with the “Women’s March” they reported a more than doubling of normal Saturday Metro usage.

We adults who see these kids' earnestness have allowed them time to (if they so wished) mourn in private. Many of their fellow classmates at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School strongly disagree with everything the “fab five” (as they’ve been coined on twitter) are up to. One quite articulate kid, Kyle Kashuv, was specifically targeted and banned from participating because his ideas didn’t line up with the overly emotive and misguided memes the others have been advancing.

They can’t have it both ways.

These are kids who should be granted all the room in the world to grieve, mourn, and get good counsel. Or they are public opinion shapers who are ready to defend what they believe.

The money wasted on the spectacle in Washington should have gone to simple ideas like metal detectors, personnel, training and certification for our schools to handle threats as they appear.

Saturday saved no one, helped no one, and only served to further the false notion that these kids should be doing homework instead of being treated like Nobel nominees.

Lastly, let’s also be done with all the “moral high ground” positioning.

Hogg reminded everyone on Saturday that the hashtag for their cause is #NotOneMore. He then cited 96 gun deaths per day in America (not just of kids but of gun users of all ages.) Meanwhile in abortion clinics across America each day (according to the Guttmacher Institute - the research propaganda machine for Planned Parenthood) 2635 children’s lives are ended due to legal abortion.

The moral dissonance is deafening. The slogan is hypocritical. The icons are babies.

It’s time to stop manipulating them, allow them to finish their high school experience, and address the real issues.

https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmc ... s-n2464388
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And now one of the left's new "great thinkers" Emma Gonzalez says that gun confiscation and Gay activism are linked. Well I would agree that they are linked in so far as they are both FAR LEFT agenda items. They are both goals of the Cultural Marxists.

How to complete a Revolution:
Step 1: Disarm the populace.
Step 2: Implement tyranny.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... d-anti-gun
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Twenty-Something Questions for Independent Thinkers

Why not focus on all forms of school violence, since school homicides are more often the result of beatings or stabbings than shootings? Obviously, mass shootings kill more people at once, but the source is usually the same—an alienated individual who resorts to violence. So why not investigate the causes of all school violence?

Does it strike you as hypocritical to see supporters of the march like Clooney modeling gun violence in the culture? In addition to the casual nature of video game violence, our movies are filled with pop culture icons like Clooney glorifying violence.

Do you believe your school is an emotionally healthy place? Are you aware of the correlation between mass schooling and the spike in mental illness among youth? Do you believe it’s possible that a toxic environment at Parkland actually cultivated the shooter’s pathology rather than mitigated it? (It’s not unusual for kids who are constantly labelled by their peers as “weirdos” to end up reinforcing those behaviors in a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.) If so, why not promote the idea of “walking up in outreach, instead of walking out”?

Are you aware that the teen suicide rate is on the rise? And that peer rejection is a common thread in teen suicide? Do you believe your school is an especially effective place for building attitudes of friendliness and kindness towards everybody? Or does the pecking order simply confer social status and power—and the arrogance that goes with it—to those at the top?

Do you think fatherlessness has any effect on young men who engage in violence? If not, why not? The correlation between male violence and fatherlessness is beyond debate. Eighty-five percent of youth in prison come from fatherless homes. But broken families in general have a very strong impact on a child’s lack of stability and sense of self. If we’d only recognize this and support a stronger ethic of family cohesion, we could no doubt reduce school violence.

Let’s Check In on Social Manipulation

Does your school have an anti-bullying policy that is universal in terms of how every student should be treated? Or is it actually a pick-and-choose policy in which only certain categories of people—based on identity politics and assumption of privileges—are officially protected from bullying?

Do you see signs of relational aggression in your school? That’s the way kids attempt to harm somebody’s social standing so others won’t associate with the person. Don’t you think cliquish nastiness and pecking orders are unhealthy for kids? If not, why not? If so, why not seriously address the harm this behavior causes?

Did you know that a child can learn all of the basics of reading, math, and writing in about 100 hours of attentive study? John Taylor Gatto came up with that figure after teaching in mass public schools in New York City for 30 years (and winning the New York “Teacher of the Year” award more than once). Given this fact, why do you think public mass schooling demands about 20,000 hours of your life? If you had an additional 20,000 hours of life, would you really want to spend it all in a factory-modeled government school?

To what extent does your school police your speech? (By the way, does it require you to memorize lists of pronouns to attach to your peers?) How often do you “check yourself” before you offer an opinion? How often do you give an opinion on something you don’t really know anything about? If you fear expressing or receiving a different point of view, that’s a sure sign you’ve been aggressively propagandized.

Did you know that every single level of government—local, state, and federal—failed at protecting kids from the Parkland shooter? In other words, government on every level proved at Parkland that it was not up to the job of effectively protecting individuals from mass shooters. Why now ask everybody to depend on failed bureaucracies to protect themselves and their families? How does that make sense?

Do you believe people have a right to defend themselves and their families against active criminal shooters? If so, what should they use to defend themselves? (Phone call to sheriff? A text message?) If they are killed because they were deprived of their only means to protect themselves against a shooter, do you see that as a problem?

Thinking for Yourself: Can You Do It?

If you didn’t participate in a school-organized protest march or walkout, would there be bad consequences for your reputation in school? If you do participate, do you expect social rewards and status at school? Or at least just to be left alone and not harassed for non-participation? Can you see the carrot-and-stick effect of conformity in this? And do you realize how it shuts off the ability to develop and express your own thoughts?

Do you believe you have a right to think your own thoughts? And to think them out loud? If you expressed “wrong-think” in school—said something politically incorrect—would you immediately be treated as a pariah? Who decides what’s right think and what’s wrong think? Are you okay walking on eggshells your whole life? And how can you learn anything if you can’t engage ideas other than those you’ve adopted, or had assigned to you?

Did it ever occur to you that the “March for Our Lives” serves mostly to protect establishment mega-schools that enforce conformity and other psychological harms onto kids? That you are basically a human shield to prop up that system that so many kids feel is destructive to their lives? (But they are afraid to say so because that will get them rejected by school and peers alike.)

Do you understand the purpose of the First Amendment? What about the Second? The Fourteenth? Do you feel you have a good grasp of the purpose of the U.S. Constitution? Do you believe you were given the content knowledge that helps you put things into context? (Did you know, for example, that the Second Amendment—the right to bear arms—came about as a protection against tyrannical government? If not, are you curious as to why?)

Do you know the difference between a developed personality and a persona? Mega-school systems don’t promote the development of healthy personalities that allow children to feel happiness just by being themselves. Instead, they effect the development of “personas”—masks kids use to make sure they fit in. If you feel compelled to wear a persona, are you depressed because you’re pretending all the time?

Let’s Talk About Your School Environment

Do you feel that your natural curiosity is encouraged in school? Or was it squashed there a long time ago? The tedium, the unnecessary busywork, the nastiness of the massive social environment with all of its cliques and mixed messages, the factory model with the bells and shuffling—none of this lends itself to stimulating intellectual curiosity. Mega-schools are abnormal environments. Or as professor Peter Gray put it in his excellent Salon article: “School is a Prison – and Damaging our Kids.”

Do you identify as an advocate of socialism? Are you aware that socialism—and its natural spawn, communism— is nothing more than state-run capitalism? That means a small power clique controls everything and everybody. Is that what you want? If so, is it because you believe you can be part of that clique through your compliance? Or is it because you’d rather cede responsibility to others? Is there another reason?

Are you aware that government control of everything—including the right of an individual to defend himself against an active shooter—can actually put the state in a position of getting away with mass murder itself? Throughout history, such regimes have pulled that off primarily by enforcing conformity and group think and censoring speech. It’s well-documented that the more power a government has, the greater the likelihood that it will commit mass murder.

Professor R.J. Rummel compiled the statistics. Here’s one for you: Wars in the twentieth century killed approximately 39 million people, civilian and military combined. But the death toll from oppressive governments during the twentieth century was 169 million. All such governments forbade the right of citizens to own firearms, as well as to speak freely. Since death by government has proven to be at least four times greater than death by war, why do you think anyone would want to go in the direction of centralized state power? (i.e., socialism).

Are you familiar with the Palo Alto High School experience with “The Wave?” It is the true story of a 1967 high school class who watched a documentary about the Holocaust, the mass killings by Nazi Germany during World War II. The students believed they were immune from ever allowing such things themselves.

An experiment by their teacher, Ron Jones, showed them that their conformity and unwillingness to take a stand against group think are the main ingredients that allow such tragedies to happen. Only through freedom of expression and independent thought can we avoid such tragedies. Unfortunately, independent thought, which mass schooling today discourages, is impossible if other opinions are never seriously considered.

Have you ever heard of Eric Hoffer? He was an immigrant and a dock worker in San Francisco, and a very thoughtful writer known as the “Longshoreman Philosopher.” Perhaps because his mind was unmolested by mass schooling, he was able to analyze the ingredients of mass movements and the agitation that deprives people of their freedom. He observed that these movements get their fuel from exploiting large groups of alienated individuals. Alienated people—people who feel at sea socially and unable to think their own thoughts—feel a sense of purpose by losing themselves in the group think and the crowd. The book is “The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements.”

How can you stand going to a mega-school day after day, year after year? Do you think it will get better after graduation? Well, it won’t if nobody pushes back against the conformity machine of mass public schooling. There was a time when graduation was a sort of escape from the oppressive high school culture of group think. But today politics and the culture at large are looking more and more like a massive middle school in terms of mentality and behaviors. Don’t you want a better future than that?

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/23/20- ... n-control/
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He is going to get murdered if he keeps going after businesses and the NRA. Not TIC. Sad but true. He keeps going directly after FedEx, Delta, etc. on a petty/personal "blood on their hands" level, someone will off him. When money is at stake, people like him tend to have "accidents".
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CFB Apologist wrote:He is going to get murdered if he keeps going after businesses and the NRA. Not TIC. Sad but true. He keeps going directly after FedEx, Delta, etc. on a petty/personal "blood on their hands" level, someone will off him. When money is at stake, people like him tend to have "accidents".
He’s safe...
1- NRA folks aren’t like that
2- Hillary secrets aren’t at stake

Now, I’m not saying it will be safe for him to go into any bar when he’s eventually of age...
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RiverguyVT wrote:...
Now, I’m not saying it will be safe for him to go into any bar when he’s eventually of age...
He'll be protected by armed guards.
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He's a narcissist friend seeking fame by exploiting tragedy. Like BG and his YouTube douchebags, parasites on humanity.
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