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HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
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BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
so where is the alleged bank fraud, he paid some pin cushion to shut up, not getting what is illegal about giving another human money. It happens every day
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BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
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awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
Nope, not taking bets, but it's a small team, so easy to source a leak. But, my "claims of protection" aren't a farce, it's just how it's done. You can make the claim that it's a farce in this situation, because you believe everything legal issue regarding Trump or his associates is a farce.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.

This was just a bullshiite excuse to see what they could see. Their predicate claim (Wusha, Wusha, Wusha) has no merit, so we get this clustercluck.
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awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
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HokieFanDC wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
Nope, not taking bets, but it's a small team, so easy to source a leak. But, my "claims of protection" aren't a farce, it's just how it's done. You can make the claim that it's a farce in this situation, because you believe everything legal issue regarding Trump or his associates is a farce.
Naw, it's a farce because it's an investigation looking for a crime. Total farce, everyone not blindly political can see that.
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awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
Nope, not taking bets, but it's a small team, so easy to source a leak. But, my "claims of protection" aren't a farce, it's just how it's done. You can make the claim that it's a farce in this situation, because you believe everything legal issue regarding Trump or his associates is a farce.
Naw, it's a farce because it's an investigation looking for a crime. Total farce, everyone not blindly political can see that.

You just reinforce what I said, "you believe everything legal issue regarding Trump or his associates is a farce."
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HokieFanDC wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote: Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
Nope, not taking bets, but it's a small team, so easy to source a leak. But, my "claims of protection" aren't a farce, it's just how it's done. You can make the claim that it's a farce in this situation, because you believe everything legal issue regarding Trump or his associates is a farce.
Naw, it's a farce because it's an investigation looking for a crime. Total farce, everyone not blindly political can see that.

You just reinforce what I said, "you believe everything legal issue regarding Trump or his associates is a farce."
Stop playing stupid, that's the opposite of what I said.
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HokieFanDC wrote: Setting up an LLC to hide the source of the payment, in order to hide that it was related to Trump activity, could be illegal.
On the other part, I'm not assuming that at all. But, not every communication between Trump and Cohen is privileged. Some is, some isn't.
Now they're saying it had nothing to do with Stormy and it was the the stupid access Hollywood tape.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.

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USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
Agry.

2 sets of laws.
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RiverguyVT wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
Agry.

2 sets of laws.
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HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.
Something Cohen did on his own apart from his duties for Trump is obviously not covered by attorney-client privilege ... but (at least one) problem is that they are using the pretense of investigating the payments as an excuse for seizing documents that ARE covered.
Not sure that's the case. When they seize documents and communications, there is a separate group of people that goes through all the docs and determines which ones are related to the payments, which ones are covered by attorney client privilege, and which ones are not covered by attorney client privilege. These are people that are not involved with the case.
Any bets they're leaked? Your claims of protection is a farce.
can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
except Hillary actually did break REAL laws and possibly Obummer in the FISA issues. So far we got that Trump likes sex.... shocking
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote: can you imagine the uproar if they did this to Obummer, never mind that he actually did break the law and Thunder thighs also......still waiting on those raids
The dreaded Obama/Clinton Pivot. Why is that your response to everything?
That's the effing point. Two sets of laws.
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I would've had my money on Junior.
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HooFighter wrote:I would've had my money on Junior.
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so who is leaking the info from the raid, isn't that illegal?
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
HooFighter wrote:I would've had my money on Junior.
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so who is leaking the info from the raid, isn't that illegal?

Ummm...that came from Cohen's lawyer. Granted, I wouldn't put any trust in a lawyer representing Cohen.
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cwtcr hokie wrote:so who is leaking the info from the raid, isn't that illegal?
Try again.

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