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Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:40 pm
by RiverguyVT
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Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:41 pm
by UpstateSCHokie
RiverguyVT wrote:.?

It’s been that since day 1.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:44 pm
by ip_law-hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
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Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:47 pm
by RiverguyVT
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:48 pm
by nolanvt
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Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:53 pm
by ip_law-hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
Blind spot.


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Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:00 pm
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
Blind spot.


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Yep, yours

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:37 pm
by RiverguyVT
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
Blind spot.


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2 sets of laws

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:43 am
by HokieJoe
Yes, it's a soft coup attempt.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:46 am
by USN_Hokie
:idea:

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:19 am
by BigDave
I'm a never Trumper, but I am curious how they justify raiding the lawyer. You can't use someone's communication with their lawyer against them and anything they learn is fruit of the poisonous tree.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:21 am
by Bay_area_Hokie
The guillotines are coming. Don’t worry.


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Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:24 am
by HokieFanDC
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


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2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:49 am
by 133743Hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:.?
?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


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2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:53 pm
by ip_law-hokie
133743Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


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2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.
So not a coup? Does USN need to cancel the civil war he ordered on Amazon?

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:05 pm
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote: 2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.
So not a coup? Does USN need to cancel the civil war he ordered on Amazon?
Silly post

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:28 pm
by cwtcr hokie
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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.[/quote]

There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


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2 sets of laws[/quote]

Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.[/quote]
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.[/quote]

reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:50 pm
by nolanvt
Trump should just resort to thoughts and prayers to combat these developments.


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Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:23 pm
by HokieFanDC
cwtcr hokie wrote:?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.[/quote]

There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

2 sets of laws[/quote]

Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.[/quote]
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.[/quote]

reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs[/quote]

What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:27 pm
by cwtcr hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]

2 sets of laws[/quote]

Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.[/quote]
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.[/quote]

reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs[/quote]

What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.[/quote]

what criminal activity, pay offs happen daily in the usa, nothing illegal about it. As for your first point your assumption is the only thing they took was just the pron star balogney and that Trump never consulted with his personal attorney about anything? really?

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:33 pm
by HokieFanDC
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


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2 sets of laws[/quote]

Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.[/quote]
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.[/quote]

reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs[/quote]

What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.[/quote]

what criminal activity, pay offs happen daily in the usa, nothing illegal about it. As for your first point your assumption is the only thing they took was just the pron star balogney and that Trump never consulted with his personal attorney about anything? really?[/quote]

Setting up an LLC to hide the source of the payment, in order to hide that it was related to Trump activity, could be illegal.
On the other part, I'm not assuming that at all. But, not every communication between Trump and Cohen is privileged. Some is, some isn't.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:42 pm
by HokieJoe
Two sets of laws.

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:29 pm
by cwtcr hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.[/quote]
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.[/quote]

reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs[/quote]

What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.[/quote]

what criminal activity, pay offs happen daily in the usa, nothing illegal about it. As for your first point your assumption is the only thing they took was just the pron star balogney and that Trump never consulted with his personal attorney about anything? really?[/quote]

Setting up an LLC to hide the source of the payment, in order to hide that it was related to Trump activity, could be illegal.
On the other part, I'm not assuming that at all. But, not every communication between Trump and Cohen is privileged. Some is, some isn't.[/quote]

Wow, you are a ball of assumption, congrats

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:45 pm
by HokieFanDC
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.[/quote]

reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs[/quote]

What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.[/quote]

what criminal activity, pay offs happen daily in the usa, nothing illegal about it. As for your first point your assumption is the only thing they took was just the pron star balogney and that Trump never consulted with his personal attorney about anything? really?[/quote]

Setting up an LLC to hide the source of the payment, in order to hide that it was related to Trump activity, could be illegal.
On the other part, I'm not assuming that at all. But, not every communication between Trump and Cohen is privileged. Some is, some isn't.[/quote]

Wow, you are a ball of assumption, congrats[/quote]

What am I assuming?

Re: Can we call this a coup yet?

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:50 pm
by cwtcr hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:?


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This isn’t a “probe”

It is a leftist coup.
IIWII


2 sets of laws.
There are 2 companies that paid for oppo research, for opposing parties, and neither of them has been raided, and no charges have been filed against any of the recipients of that oppo research, or the people who funded. Complaints have been filed on both the Clinton oppo research funding and the Cohen hush payments.
The main difference in the Cohen payment is that he created a company specifically to hide the origins of the payments. He was probably just following standard hush money procedures.
Blind spot.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
2 sets of laws
Mueller didn’t order the raid, most likely. Most likely done by Republican, and Sessions appointee, Geoff Berman. This would be Mueller finding something outside his mandate and referring it to the locals.
Apparently that's what happened. Mueller found this out during his investigation, said it's outside his scope, and referred it to the DOJ where they took action.
reported that the raid was made due to a recommendation from Mueller.....still don't get it as nothing is usable due to attorney-client privilege but they are trying to piss Trump off so much he makes a mistake..... yes it is a soft coup from all sides. If the DOJ and FBI starts arresting all the Obummer and the rest of the top folks that were breaking laws for Obummer then they will actually be doing their jobs[/quote]

What attorney client privilege?
First, Trump says he knows nothing about the payments. No privilege on something he's not involved with.
Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity.[/quote]

what criminal activity, pay offs happen daily in the usa, nothing illegal about it. As for your first point your assumption is the only thing they took was just the pron star balogney and that Trump never consulted with his personal attorney about anything? really?[/quote]

Setting up an LLC to hide the source of the payment, in order to hide that it was related to Trump activity, could be illegal.
On the other part, I'm not assuming that at all. But, not every communication between Trump and Cohen is privileged. Some is, some isn't.[/quote]

Wow, you are a ball of assumption, congrats[/quote]

What am I assuming?[/quote]

your words "Setting up an LLC to hide the source of the payment, in order to hide that it was related to Trump activity" next, "Second, that privilege doesn't apply if it relates to any criminal or fraudulent activity"

Cohen had no part of the campaign and again Trump can spend his own money or Cohen can spend money anyway he wants to

The ISSUE is we know that thunder thighs committed all kinds of illegal acts, we know Obummer was involved, we know that the FBI completely abused the fisa courts and spied on us citizens, we know that Hillary was exonerated by THE FBI BEFORE THEY EVER EVEN INTERVIEWED HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We also KNOW that the repubs that are trying to investigate what the dems and Obummer and Hillary did and are being absolutely stonewalled and not being given the info BY OUR OWN DAMN GOV AGENCIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you do realize Trump will not be in office forever and the crap that was pulled the last election and is continuing by the dems can easily be reversed on them to the next dem that wins the prez...it should worry you the weaponizing and politicizing of the DOJ and FBI