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LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:30 am
by USN_Hokie
Only $40k/mile. Graffiti artists will have a field day and I can't wait for the unintended consequences.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/10/lo ... hange.html

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:01 pm
by cwtcr hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:Only $40k/mile. Graffiti artists will have a field day and I can't wait for the unintended consequences.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/10/lo ... hange.html
meanwhile their dams collapse and bridges collapse but painting a street that will be defaced immediately and the paint will not last near as long as predicted if the street has any traffic. I assume wheel spinning on the street is against the law as it would make it black again..... racist!!!!!

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:56 pm
by Mcl3 Hokie
Wonderful idea :roll: maybe they can get some welfare kings and queens jobs to do this. I doubt there’s much traing to spread paint.
USN_Hokie wrote:Only $40k/mile. Graffiti artists will have a field day and I can't wait for the unintended consequences.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/10/lo ... hange.html

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:15 am
by Bay_area_Hokie
I have a friend who had a family cabin deep in the woods. They had no hot water heater so they put a black pvc pipe on the roof, pumped water into it, and it heated the water enough for showers.

So, I guess this means I understand the power of color on heat, but unless all the car tires were white I think they will be dark gray soon.


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Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:35 am
by HokieFanDC
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I have a friend who had a family cabin deep in the woods. They had no hot water heater so they put a black pvc pipe on the roof, pumped water into it, and it heated the water enough for showers.

So, I guess this means I understand the power of color on heat, but unless all the car tires were white I think they will be dark gray soon.


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FWIW, I've never seen a white street in LA. Not sure how many of these actually exist. In our neighborhood, if the streets get to hot, we just open up the hoses on then and let 'em rip. Water shortage my butt.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:03 pm
by Major Kong
Well white colored streets after Labor Day is gauche :!:

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:34 pm
by BigDave
That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:38 pm
by cwtcr hokie
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
its Kali, stupidity is required in all decisions

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:53 pm
by HokieFanDC
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:11 pm
by 133743Hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Most asphalt paved roads are not sealed.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:21 pm
by USN_Hokie
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
The whole thing is probably just a crony kick-back to the friends/family of bureaucrats.

My question is how this can be safe? If the paint isn't porous, it will become slippery as hell when it gets wet. If it is porous, it will become stained in no time (waste of money).

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:25 pm
by cwtcr hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
yes people seal their driveways as they do not get the wear and tear roads do and do not have to be re-paved as normal roads do. Roads and streets do not get sealed, they pave them, then the wear and tear create problems and they are re-paved, never sealed. My issue is the wasted dollars spent for it, total waste. The earth is changing, painting some roads white at a large dollar expenditure will do nothing to stop the planet from changing

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:27 pm
by USN_Hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Don't pretend this isn't an absurd waste.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:33 pm
by awesome guy
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
I don't see how a water soluble solution would be better as it'll dissolve and run into the water system where as an alcohol based one won't.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:44 pm
by Techmomof2
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
I don't see how a water soluble solution would be better as it'll dissolve and run into the water system where as an alcohol based one won't.
If only the Left paid for it.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:28 pm
by RiverguyVT
Some ideas just have bong hits written all over them

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:38 pm
by CFB Apologist
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Oh good- it's free right? doesn't cost the taxpayer a dime? I'm sure. And you ask why "anyone" would have an issue wasting a colossal amount of money. Think about that when your state taxes get raised to pay for this disaster.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:41 pm
by awesome guy
CFB Apologist wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Oh good- it's free right? doesn't cost the taxpayer a dime? I'm sure. And you ask why "anyone" would have an issue wasting a colossal amount of money. Think about that when your state taxes get raised to pay for this disaster.
They live in a desert, anything to cool down and feel good.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:50 pm
by HokieFanDC
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
I don't see how a water soluble solution would be better as it'll dissolve and run into the water system where as an alcohol based one won't.
I didn't say it's water soluble.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:56 pm
by awesome guy
HokieFanDC wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
I don't see how a water soluble solution would be better as it'll dissolve and run into the water system where as an alcohol based one won't.
I didn't say it's water soluble.
Water based is water soluble.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:57 pm
by HokieFanDC
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Don't pretend this isn't an absurd waste.
I'm not pretending, or claiming anything. It's a trial. If it works, and they produce in larger quantities, price goes down.
It's supposed to increase the durability of the roads, and it is skid tested.

I'm definitely skeptical, but it's funny watching people get their panties in a wad over a trial. I know, California. It's a huge trigger for some folks.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:07 pm
by cwtcr hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Don't pretend this isn't an absurd waste.
I'm not pretending, or claiming anything. It's a trial. If it works, and they produce in larger quantities, price goes down.
It's supposed to increase the durability of the roads, and it is skid tested.

I'm definitely skeptical, but it's funny watching people get their panties in a wad over a trial. I know, California. It's a huge trigger for some folks.
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!! it's about the complete waste of TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and common sense will tell you it will be a graffiti heavan and that it will be far from white in a few months, thus a waste of TAXPAYER DOLLARS

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:12 pm
by ip_law-hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Don't pretend this isn't an absurd waste.
I'm not pretending, or claiming anything. It's a trial. If it works, and they produce in larger quantities, price goes down.
It's supposed to increase the durability of the roads, and it is skid tested.

I'm definitely skeptical, but it's funny watching people get their panties in a wad over a trial. I know, California. It's a huge trigger for some folks.
angry old men.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:38 pm
by USN_Hokie
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Don't pretend this isn't an absurd waste.
I'm not pretending, or claiming anything. It's a trial. If it works, and they produce in larger quantities, price goes down.
It's supposed to increase the durability of the roads, and it is skid tested.

I'm definitely skeptical, but it's funny watching people get their panties in a wad over a trial. I know, California. It's a huge trigger for some folks.
Trial? Give me a break. How are they going to judge effectiveness at combating goreball whining? :lol:

That must be some good kool-aid.

Re: LA Painting Streets White to Combat Climate Change.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:45 pm
by cwtcr hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
BigDave wrote:That can't possibly be a net win for the climate, can it? The trucks they are hauling it in produce pollution. They probably produce greenhouse gasses when they make the stuff. And there's the potential of runoff on the rare occasion it rains. This just doesn't seem like a net win.
It's not actually paint. It's a sealant. Asphalt has to be sealed on a regular basis, so they are using this product instead of standard asphalt sealant. The CoolSeal they are using is water based, while most sealants are polymer based, so the runoff effect is more environmentally friendly. No net impact from the trucks since they have to haul whatever sealant they're using anyway. Same with the production, no net impact.
And by using reflective surfaces, it reduces ground temps, which means less heat coming from the ground at night, which lowers A/C bills.
It's a trial to test the actual impacts, I don't see why anyone has an issue with testing out things like this.
Don't pretend this isn't an absurd waste.
I'm not pretending, or claiming anything. It's a trial. If it works, and they produce in larger quantities, price goes down.
It's supposed to increase the durability of the roads, and it is skid tested.

I'm definitely skeptical, but it's funny watching people get their panties in a wad over a trial. I know, California. It's a huge trigger for some folks.
angry old men.
I know you have to actually pay taxes to be irritated when they are wasted, so it is good to know that you are a taker, not a giver. I have to prepare for your detailed response now.....