Christie's speech is very good, if its true.

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Christie's speech is very good, if its true.

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He apologized, he took responsibility, he took action, makes him look forceful and in control. He can get very positive mileage out of this.

If its true.
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Just curious - can anyone recall Obama ever having someone fired during his numerous failures? The IRS targeting? Benghazi? Healthcare rollout? Fast & Furious?

Anyone?
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And fatso said , "I was wrong."

Mr president.....?


hokie80 wrote:Just curious - can anyone recall Obama ever having someone fired during his numerous failures? The IRS targeting? Benghazi? Healthcare rollout? Fast & Furious?

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No. That's actually one of the things that makes me so utterly disappointed and po'd with him. He's allowed a few folks to "resign" I think and allowed somebody to go on admin leave for a very short time prior to an already set imminent retirement date, but given all of his "I wasn't aware..." bullshit with regard to some of the actions of folks in his administration, one would think a few heads would roll properly. I mean if it was someone's job in your organization to ensure you knew what was going on and they didn't keep you in the loop, wouldn't you fire them for total failure to achieve the objectives for which they were hired? Since they weren't fired, I can only conclude a few possibilities: he knew and hoped it would never get out or he's a megalomaniac and doesn't think the law applies to him or he didn't know and he's utterly incompetent. None of those is better than the others as far as presidential traits are concerned.
hokie80 wrote:Just curious - can anyone recall Obama ever having someone fired during his numerous failures? The IRS targeting? Benghazi? Healthcare rollout? Fast & Furious?

Anyone?
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Christy speaks candidly, like he has nothing to hide. Not necessarily eloquently but candidly and honestly. Assuming he is telling the truth of course.

More conversation than presentation.

Obama speaks like he has everything to hide. Programed, calculated, and aloof.


hokie80 wrote:Just curious - can anyone recall Obama ever having someone fired during his numerous failures? The IRS targeting? Benghazi? Healthcare rollout? Fast & Furious?

Anyone?
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hokie80 wrote:Just curious - can anyone recall Obama ever having someone fired during his numerous failures? The IRS targeting? Benghazi? Healthcare rollout? Fast & Furious?

Anyone?
http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/ ... of-scandal
http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact- ... _blog.html


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Uprising wrote:http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/ ... of-scandal

Nope:
Clicky here

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact- ... _blog.html
From your own link at the bottom:
UPDATE, Sept. 11, 2013: While we were on August break, the State Department suddenly announced that the four State Department officials had been returned to active duty and would face no further disciplinary action. This development only recently came to our attention, or else we would have updated this column earlier. Paul turns out to have been entirely correct, and so he earns a coveted Geppetto Checkmark

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If those "firings" were really firings, our president would have played them up as examples of his take charge attitude, his no nonsense style, his commitment to honest government.

Some people were allowed to resign (how do you ALLOW someone to resign) or were transferred or whatever.

This is a weak president. Duh.

And I submit that one reason that politicians don't often fire scoundrels in their administration, is that these scoundrels have "pictures" of the boss. Fire me and i'll go public.

In a truly ethical administration, the boss has no need to fear scoundrels. Christy looked VERY good today. Assuming he told the truth.

Especially when compared to the marxxist.


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Uprising wrote:http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/ ... of-scandal

Nope:
Clicky here

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact- ... _blog.html
From your own link at the bottom:
UPDATE, Sept. 11, 2013: While we were on August break, the State Department suddenly announced that the four State Department officials had been returned to active duty and would face no further disciplinary action. This development only recently came to our attention, or else we would have updated this column earlier. Paul turns out to have been entirely correct, and so he earns a coveted Geppetto Checkmark

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Major Kong wrote:
Uprising wrote:http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/ ... of-scandal

Nope:
Clicky here

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact- ... _blog.html
From your own link at the bottom:
UPDATE, Sept. 11, 2013: While we were on August break, the State Department suddenly announced that the four State Department officials had been returned to active duty and would face no further disciplinary action. This development only recently came to our attention, or else we would have updated this column earlier. Paul turns out to have been entirely correct, and so he earns a coveted Geppetto Checkmark

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In the case of Miller, Meh, his position ended in less than a month so whether he was "fired or resigned is a small whoop.
He could have/should have fired the incoming chief?

He can't really fire people unless they commit crimes. At least that is what I gathered from the second link.

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Uprising wrote:He could have/should have fired the incoming chief?

Waht? What does the incoming chief have to do with Miller resigning?

He can't really fire people unless they commit crimes. At least that is what I gathered from the second link.

Then why link it as an example of the POTUS firing someone?

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oaktonhokie wrote:If those "firings" were really firings, our president would have played them up as examples of his take charge attitude, his no nonsense style, his commitment to honest government.

Some people were allowed to resign (how do you ALLOW someone to resign) or were transferred or whatever.

This is a weak president. Duh.

And I submit that one reason that politicians don't often fire scoundrels in their administration, is that these scoundrels have "pictures" of the boss. Fire me and i'll go public.

In a truly ethical administration, the boss has no need to fear scoundrels. Christy looked VERY good today. Assuming he told the truth.

Especially when compared to the marxxist.


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Uprising wrote:http://mobile.usnews.com/news/articles/ ... of-scandal

Nope:
Clicky here

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact- ... _blog.html
From your own link at the bottom:
UPDATE, Sept. 11, 2013: While we were on August break, the State Department suddenly announced that the four State Department officials had been returned to active duty and would face no further disciplinary action. This development only recently came to our attention, or else we would have updated this column earlier. Paul turns out to have been entirely correct, and so he earns a coveted Geppetto Checkmark

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In the case of Miller, Meh, his position ended in less than a month so whether he was "fired or resigned is a small whoop.
He looked "VERY good" when he said this:
What I was told was that it was a traffic study, and there was no evidence to the contrary until yesterday
Even when this was out on December 9?
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/12/09/ ... -closures/

He wasn't being aloof?
I don’t know if this was a traffic study that morphed into a political vendetta or a political vendetta that morphed into a traffic study
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Major Kong wrote:
Uprising wrote:He could have/should have fired the incoming chief?

Waht? What does the incoming chief have to do with Miller resigning?

He can't really fire people unless they commit crimes. At least that is what I gathered from the second link.

Then why link it as an example of the POTUS firing someone?

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I was being facetious.

Only to show that it is not as easy for the President to fire someone as it may appear on the surface.

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hokie80 wrote:Just curious - can anyone recall Obama ever having someone fired during his numerous failures? The IRS targeting? Benghazi? Healthcare rollout? Fast & Furious?

Anyone?
Not sure it counts, but the broad who had the email aliases to avoid reporting requirements was canned, I thinnk.
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Uprising wrote:I was being facetious.

Only to show that it is not as easy for the President to fire someone as it may appear on the surface.

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USN_Hokie wrote:Not sure it counts, but the broad who had the email aliases to avoid reporting requirements was canned, I thinnk.
Lisa Jackson? She resigned and the poor thing went to work for Apple. :D
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