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UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Ah…..the old Russia Collusion allegations……a Coup none of the inERECTiOn! types want to discuss any longer.
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HokieHam wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:36 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Ah…..the old Russia Collusion allegations……a Coup none of the inERECTiOn! types want to discuss any longer.

Too inconvenient for those who live in a world of media narratives.
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UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
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HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
He is a mOdERatE though……..
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HokieHam wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:55 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
He is a mOdERatE though……..

Muy moderista!
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HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
So you agree trump was not good?
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HokieHam wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:55 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
He is a mOdERatE though……..
He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:14 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:55 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
He is a mOdERatE though……..
He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
LOL. He is NOT moderate. The BBB garbage is not moderate in the least. If it was passed, he WOULD sign it. That’s just one thing…..I could list many others……
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:13 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
So you agree trump was not good?
Trump was obnoxious. I like most of his policy though. I was able to see through the latter. Many couldn’t. It is what it is.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:14 pm He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll concede this much. It doesn't matter if Biden is a moderate or not, because he is nothing more than Bernie's body was in the movie Weekend at Bernie's.

What matters is that the people using him as a marionette are NOT moderates.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:13 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:52 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.

Biden is definitively worse; and we tried to tell you all as much.
So you agree trump was not good?


I voted for Cruz in the primary. I voted for Trump, twice, because he was better than either alternative.

He did some things I liked:

European countries should pay more into NATO than they have historically. We've helped subsidize their welfare/healthcare systems for decades. Let them pull their own weight.

China should've been taken to task decades ago. And I agree with renegotiating our trade agreements. The middle class have been taking it up the tailpipe for decades because of one-world nonsense. Nonsense that makes a few very rich and will not prevent wars.

Build the damn wall.

I generally liked his Supreme Court picks.

OTOH, his mouth wrecked him much more than his actions. He would've accomplished a lot more if he had played it cooler. I blame him in large part for Biden and the sh!tshow we have now. I also blame the press and independent voters (many of whom are uneducated on political issues).

And, I think he mismanaged the COVID response. He should have put foot to ass at NIH and CDC. Fauci should have been fired while Trump was in office.
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HokieJoe wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:36 pm
OTOH, his mouth wrecked him much more than his actions. He would've accomplished a lot more if he had played it cooler. I blame him in large part for Biden and the sh!tshow we have now.
This is all 100% true.
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RiverguyVT wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:23 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:14 pm He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll concede this much. It doesn't matter if Biden is a moderate or not, because he is nothing more than Bernie's body was in the movie Weekend at Bernie's.
we probably disagree on the degree to which this is true. but i agree that it is true.

What matters is that the people using him as a marionette are NOT moderates.
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:23 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:14 pm He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll concede this much. It doesn't matter if Biden is a moderate or not, because he is nothing more than Bernie's body was in the movie Weekend at Bernie's.
we probably disagree on the degree to which this is true. but i agree that it is true.

What matters is that the people using him as a marionette are NOT moderates.
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
No, they are not. Not moderate in the least. BBB says hi.
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HokieHam wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:49 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:23 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:14 pm He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll concede this much. It doesn't matter if Biden is a moderate or not, because he is nothing more than Bernie's body was in the movie Weekend at Bernie's.
we probably disagree on the degree to which this is true. but i agree that it is true.

What matters is that the people using him as a marionette are NOT moderates.
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
No, they are not. Not moderate in the least. BBB says hi.
the $4 trillion version would not have been moderate. the $1 trillion version is moderate.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
There is nothing moderate about his handlers' fiscal policies. Nothing. And why would there be? They are invisible and unaccountable to anyone. His puppeteers have absolutely no reason to be "moderate".

This seems like the kind of deal where a "snowstorm" means one thing to an eskimo, and quite another thing to a guy from Cuba. Your midpoint on "wildly liberal" is a lot different than mine.
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RiverguyVT wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:25 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
There is nothing moderate about his handlers' fiscal policies. Nothing. And why would there be? They are invisible and unaccountable to anyone. His puppeteers have absolutely no reason to be "moderate".

This seems like the kind of deal where a "snowstorm" means one thing to an eskimo, and quite another thing to a guy from Cuba. Your midpoint on "wildly liberal" is a lot different than mine.
Agree. You are way on the right. I’m more in the center. Our perspectives are different.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:57 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:49 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:23 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:14 pm He is a moderate. Many on the left are very frustrated with his administration. It isn’t just conservatives who disapprove of Biden.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll concede this much. It doesn't matter if Biden is a moderate or not, because he is nothing more than Bernie's body was in the movie Weekend at Bernie's.
we probably disagree on the degree to which this is true. but i agree that it is true.

What matters is that the people using him as a marionette are NOT moderates.
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
No, they are not. Not moderate in the least. BBB says hi.
the $4 trillion version would not have been moderate. the $1 trillion version is moderate.
No. He would have signed the latter. That does not make him moderate. It’s called his agenda. It is and was not moderate in the least.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:47 pm
UpstateSCHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:27 pm
Biden is not a good president. Neither was trump.

Hopefully we’ll get someone competent in 2024.
Nope, just because the guy you voted for sucks ass and no one can reasonably deny it, doesn't mean my guy is "just as bad." Trump's policies were amazing - best POTUS of my lifetime. I'm looking forward to his 2nd term starting in Jan. 2025.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:27 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:25 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 9:47 pm
his fiscal policies are moderate. they are certainly not conservative... but not wildly liberal either.
There is nothing moderate about his handlers' fiscal policies. Nothing. And why would there be? They are invisible and unaccountable to anyone. His puppeteers have absolutely no reason to be "moderate".

This seems like the kind of deal where a "snowstorm" means one thing to an eskimo, and quite another thing to a guy from Cuba. Your midpoint on "wildly liberal" is a lot different than mine.
Agree. You are way on the right. I’m more in the center. Our perspectives are different.
:roll: You're hardly center, Hillsville. 8-)
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