No more masks

[awesome guy]

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[HokieJoe]

Curious timing.

[BigDave]

yup. People need to read the literature on the vaccines. They lessen the symptoms and keep you out of the hospital(in addition to destroying cells like Covid itself), they don't make you immune to Covid. The vaxtards are stuck thinking that these gene therapies work just like the smallpox vaccines.

Okay, so you're saying that the mask mandate should not be lifted - even for vaccinated people, then?

Even if the vaccine doesn't immunize you and just reduces the severity of your symptoms, I would think that would be a really really good thing. It takes your chance of dying from 2% to 0%. It takes your chance of a severe case of Covid from 10% to something way under 1%, and it takes your change of experiencing any symptoms at all from 80% to some unknown number, but probably under 10%.

That sounds like a pretty good deal to me - even if didn't reduce my likelihood of an infection at all (which of course it does).

It's pretty much impossible to know exactly how much it reduces my likelihood of an infection to begin with because there is such a large overlap between the populations of {people who get the vaccine} and {people who practice social distancing and wear masks}. So vaccinated people are less likely than unvaccinated people to get infected anyway.

If you're only willing to do things Trump tells you to do, DONALD TRUMP TOOK THE VACCINE! Melania took the vaccine. Virtually everyone in the inner circle took it.

[awesome guy]

yup. People need to read the literature on the vaccines. They lessen the symptoms and keep you out of the hospital(in addition to destroying cells like Covid itself), they don't make you immune to Covid. The vaxtards are stuck thinking that these gene therapies work just like the smallpox vaccines.

Okay, so you're saying that the mask mandate should not be lifted - even for vaccinated people, then?

Even if the vaccine doesn't immunize you and just reduces the severity of your symptoms, I would think that would be a really really good thing. It takes your chance of dying from 2% to 0%. It takes your chance of a severe case of Covid from 10% to something way under 1%, and it takes your change of experiencing any symptoms at all from 80% to some unknown number, but probably under 10%.

That sounds like a pretty good deal to me - even if didn't reduce my likelihood of an infection at all (which of course it does).

It's pretty much impossible to know exactly how much it reduces my likelihood of an infection to begin with because there is such a large overlap between the populations of {people who get the vaccine} and {people who practice social distancing and wear masks}. So vaccinated people are less likely than unvaccinated people to get infected anyway.

If you're only willing to do things Trump tells you to do, DONALD TRUMP TOOK THE VACCINE! Melania took the vaccine. Virtually everyone in the inner circle took it.

You're math and facts are way off. You're not getting a 0% chance of dying, you're going from .01% to .001%. It's a small risk to begin without outside of being over 70 and obese. And then you're taking on the known damage of the spike protein, whose effects still aren't deeply understood.

You're the emotional one that makes decisions based on personality, not me. I make up my own mind about what I'm going to do. I'm not a slave to my emotions, unlike the NeverDrumpfers. And likewise, I'm not willing to accept an unknown risk to avoid something less probable than an auto death for my demographic.

[RiverguyVT]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

[BigDave]

The vaccine produces 1,000,000 times fewer spike proteins than an actual covid infection.

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-misrepr ... ke-protein

[BigDave]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

Yeah. The new guidance makes no sense whatsoever. And since this isn't Nazi Germany and nobody is going to be asking for your vaccination papers, you're going to have plenty of unvaccinated people running around with no mask.

It only makes sense as a political move - not a science one.

[ip_law-hokie]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

Yeah. The new guidance makes no sense whatsoever. And since this isn't Nazi Germany and nobody is going to be asking for your vaccination papers, you're going to have plenty of unvaccinated people running around with no mask.

It only makes sense as a political move - not a science one.

I don't understand your concern. The science says it is acceptably safe for vaccinated people to go without a mask.

I don't care that anti-vaxers will not be wearing a mask. I don't think there should be any protections in place for these people, such as capacity limits and such.

[awesome guy]

The vaccine produces 1,000,000 times fewer spike proteins than an actual covid infection.

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-misrepr ... ke-protein

Fake news

[awesome guy]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

Yeah. The new guidance makes no sense whatsoever. And since this isn't Nazi Germany and nobody is going to be asking for your vaccination papers, you're going to have plenty of unvaccinated people running around with no mask.

It only makes sense as a political move - not a science one.

I don't understand your concern. The science says it is acceptably safe for vaccinated people to go without a mask.

I don't care that anti-vaxers will not be wearing a mask. I don't think there should be any protections in place for these people, such as capacity limits and such.

As long as you cover the costs of your strokes, emphysema, etc from the vaccine then deal. It's hilarious how fast you narcissists went from hiding in the base from Covid to F everyone not wanting to be part of an experiment. Cover the cost of your experiment then.

[BigDave]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

Yeah. The new guidance makes no sense whatsoever. And since this isn't Nazi Germany and nobody is going to be asking for your vaccination papers, you're going to have plenty of unvaccinated people running around with no mask.

It only makes sense as a political move - not a science one.

I don't understand your concern. The science says it is acceptably safe for vaccinated people to go without a mask.

I don't care that anti-vaxers will not be wearing a mask. I don't think there should be any protections in place for these people, such as capacity limits and such.

Think about what is the purpose of a facemask?

As has been pointed out 10000 times on this forum and elsewhere, it is not as much to protect you (though it does help some), but it is more to protect other people from you. It is about slowing down the droplets that you exhale.

So if the anti-vaxers are going to stop being forced to wear masks, then they are the ones who are more likely to have covid and more likely to infect others anyway.

While thr vaccine is effective, it is only 95% effective meaning they anti-vaxers can still infect 1/20 vaccinated people.

So unless or until unvaccinated people are going to wear a scarlet letter so that you can tell them apart, no, there is no science for this.

[Florida Hokie]

yup. People need to read the literature on the vaccines. They lessen the symptoms and keep you out of the hospital(in addition to destroying cells like Covid itself), they don't make you immune to Covid. The vaxtards are stuck thinking that these gene therapies work just like the smallpox vaccines.

Okay, so you're saying that the mask mandate should not be lifted - even for vaccinated people, then?

Even if the vaccine doesn't immunize you and just reduces the severity of your symptoms, I would think that would be a really really good thing. It takes your chance of dying from 2% to 0%. It takes your chance of a severe case of Covid from 10% to something way under 1%, and it takes your change of experiencing any symptoms at all from 80% to some unknown number, but probably under 10%.

That sounds like a pretty good deal to me - even if didn't reduce my likelihood of an infection at all (which of course it does).

It's pretty much impossible to know exactly how much it reduces my likelihood of an infection to begin with because there is such a large overlap between the populations of {people who get the vaccine} and {people who practice social distancing and wear masks}. So vaccinated people are less likely than unvaccinated people to get infected anyway.

If you're only willing to do things Trump tells you to do, DONALD TRUMP TOOK THE VACCINE! Melania took the vaccine. Virtually everyone in the inner circle took it.

Here's a suggestion BigDave. Tell AG is he SUPER brave and TOTALLY manly and that we all recognize it and that everyone else on this forum is a total coward and not manly. Maybe then he'll stop trying to prove otherwise with EVERY SINGLE POST and this place COULD be tolerable again.

Then again, you don't seem to care about how he behaves so I suspect you'll ignore this advice anyhow.

The forum is TOTES productive by the way. Stimulating conversation.

[hokie80]

The vaccine produces 1,000,000 times fewer spike proteins than an actual covid infection.

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-misrepr ... ke-protein

Fake news

Idiot

[awesome guy]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

Yeah. The new guidance makes no sense whatsoever. And since this isn't Nazi Germany and nobody is going to be asking for your vaccination papers, you're going to have plenty of unvaccinated people running around with no mask.

It only makes sense as a political move - not a science one.

I don't understand your concern. The science says it is acceptably safe for vaccinated people to go without a mask.

I don't care that anti-vaxers will not be wearing a mask. I don't think there should be any protections in place for these people, such as capacity limits and such.

Think about what is the purpose of a facemask?

As has been pointed out 10000 times on this forum and elsewhere, it is not as much to protect you (though it does help some), but it is more to protect other people from you. It is about slowing down the droplets that you exhale.

So if the anti-vaxers are going to stop being forced to wear masks, then they are the ones who are more likely to have covid and more likely to infect others anyway.

While thr vaccine is effective, it is only 95% effective meaning they anti-vaxers can still infect 1/20 vaccinated people.

So unless or until unvaccinated people are going to wear a scarlet letter so that you can tell them apart, no, there is no science for this.

You guys still don't get it. Below are the metrics. "The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is 95% effective in preventing the COVID-19 virus with symptoms." The vaccine isn't immunizing you to COVID-19, it's lessening the symptoms. That's a distinction that you keep missing in your analysis. You're still going to get COVID-19 and still going to be a carrier at the rates equal to the unvaccinated. But when you do get it, you're far less likely to have symptoms, especially severe symptoms. For some reason you guys omit key words or pretend like they're punctuation. "with symptoms" is a key phrase. The NYecks tell the tale, 8 are infected after getting vaccinated. 0 will likely be symptomatic or develop severe symptoms. They're infected and carriers, but not going to the hospital. And really not from the vaccine, but from this being how COVID-19 plays out in those under 60 and healthy. The vaccine just further lessens their chance of being symptomatic, which were super low to begin with.

So why does that matter? Because then you're going to spread COVID-19 amongst each other where the virus will continue to mutate and create variants, like we have in the UK, Brazil, and India. Those variants will create their own variants. The vaccines don't seem as effective with them and even deadlier ones are likely to emerge. So you're really turning yourselves into a lab for evolution to work it's magic on COVID-19 to create COVID-20, COVID-21, etc. You still need to socially distance and spend no longer than 15 minutes together inside a building with strangers so the virus doesn't have an ecosystem to evolve in.

Masks also don't really work. Only things that actually work are socially distancing and not being in a room with other people for more than 15 minutes. Masked or maskless, the particles accumulate enough to form a big enough viral load to spread Covid. But you if leave within 15 minutes then you have practically no chance of getting it. Same with being outside. Masks just change the trajectory of the sneeze, don't eliminate it as a threat as a masked sneeze forms the for mentioned cloud to spread germs.


The elderly, especially those with comorbidities are a different animal all together. They have a much higher risk of COVID-19 and it is the boggieman for them that the vaxtards hiding in the basement believe it is for themselves. If we were talking about gun violence then the elderly would represent black male gang members between the ages of 16 and 22 as well as the suicidal. They're 90% of the deaths and serious issues. Everyone else is relatively safe. But the populations overlap in that the free flying vaxtards can still kill grannie with COVID-19 as they bring it to her. Granny should certainly get vaccinated, her kids and grandkids don't need to, they should just keep the safety protocols mentioned above.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20484859

[hokie80]

Curious timing.

(Eye roll)

More tin foil hat crap.

Red hats are THE most gullible idiots on the planet.

[awesome guy]

The vaccine produces 1,000,000 times fewer spike proteins than an actual covid infection.

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-misrepr ... ke-protein

Fake news

Idiot

Don't need to say it, we already know that's what you are.

[hokie80]

The vaccine produces 1,000,000 times fewer spike proteins than an actual covid infection.

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-misrepr ... ke-protein

Fake news

Idiot

Don't need to say it, we already know that's what you are.

You are one clueless f*ucktard.

Come on karma.... give AG a ventilator!

[awesome guy]

yup. People need to read the literature on the vaccines. They lessen the symptoms and keep you out of the hospital(in addition to destroying cells like Covid itself), they don't make you immune to Covid. The vaxtards are stuck thinking that these gene therapies work just like the smallpox vaccines.

Okay, so you're saying that the mask mandate should not be lifted - even for vaccinated people, then?

Even if the vaccine doesn't immunize you and just reduces the severity of your symptoms, I would think that would be a really really good thing. It takes your chance of dying from 2% to 0%. It takes your chance of a severe case of Covid from 10% to something way under 1%, and it takes your change of experiencing any symptoms at all from 80% to some unknown number, but probably under 10%.

That sounds like a pretty good deal to me - even if didn't reduce my likelihood of an infection at all (which of course it does).

It's pretty much impossible to know exactly how much it reduces my likelihood of an infection to begin with because there is such a large overlap between the populations of {people who get the vaccine} and {people who practice social distancing and wear masks}. So vaccinated people are less likely than unvaccinated people to get infected anyway.

If you're only willing to do things Trump tells you to do, DONALD TRUMP TOOK THE VACCINE! Melania took the vaccine. Virtually everyone in the inner circle took it.

Here's a suggestion BigDave. Tell AG is he SUPER brave and TOTALLY manly and that we all recognize it and that everyone else on this forum is a total coward and not manly. Maybe then he'll stop trying to prove otherwise with EVERY SINGLE POST and this place COULD be tolerable again.

Then again, you don't seem to care about how he behaves so I suspect you'll ignore this advice anyhow.

The forum is TOTES productive by the way. Stimulating conversation.

Must have a been move for you to go from hiding the closet in your mom's bra to hiding in the basement from the COVID-19.

[awesome guy]

The vaccine produces 1,000,000 times fewer spike proteins than an actual covid infection.

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-misrepr ... ke-protein

Fake news

Idiot

Don't need to say it, we already know that's what you are.

You are one clueless f*ucktard.

Come on karma.... give AG a ventilator!

So says 80. Why don't you prove your own idiocy, go get an injection of COVID-19. You're immunized, no? If not then STFU.

[BigDave]

Can we discuss this without the constant snipping, please?

[HokieHam]

Curious timing.

(Eye roll)

More tin foil hat crap.

Red hats are THE most gullible idiots on the planet.

It’s a damn good question to ask, 80......you’re so blinded by rEd HAtZ rage, you can’t even think straight,

[133743Hokie]

Curious timing.

indeed.

a little goodie for the masses to distract them from other not-so-good things. LOL

Yeah. The new guidance makes no sense whatsoever. And since this isn't Nazi Germany and nobody is going to be asking for your vaccination papers, you're going to have plenty of unvaccinated people running around with no mask.

It only makes sense as a political move - not a science one.

I don't understand your concern. The science says it is acceptably safe for vaccinated people to go without a mask.

I don't care that anti-vaxers will not be wearing a mask. I don't think there should be any protections in place for these people, such as capacity limits and such.

Think about what is the purpose of a facemask?

As has been pointed out 10000 times on this forum and elsewhere, it is not as much to protect you (though it does help some), but it is more to protect other people from you. It is about slowing down the droplets that you exhale.

So if the anti-vaxers are going to stop being forced to wear masks, then they are the ones who are more likely to have covid and more likely to infect others anyway.

While thr vaccine is effective, it is only 95% effective meaning they anti-vaxers can still infect 1/20 vaccinated people.

So unless or until unvaccinated people are going to wear a scarlet letter so that you can tell them apart, no, there is no science for this.

That's not what 95% effectiveness means

[BigDave]

Interesting video. And absolutely more stunning if the head of the CDC the night before the announcement was saying that the science wasn't there yet.

The press secretary basically said, well, only a few people knew about the announcement. You'd think the head of the CDC would have been one of them.

https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/ ... 7826416643

[HokieJoe]

Curious timing.

(Eye roll)

More tin foil hat crap.

Red hats are THE most gullible idiots on the planet.

Grow up Dogberry.

[RiverguyVT]

Here's a suggestion BigDave. Tell AG is he SUPER brave and TOTALLY manly and that we all recognize it and that everyone else on this forum is a total coward and not manly. Maybe then he'll stop trying to prove otherwise with EVERY SINGLE POST and this place COULD be tolerable again.

Then again, you don't seem to care about how he behaves so I suspect you'll ignore this advice anyhow.

The forum is TOTES productive by the way. Stimulating conversation.

A Florida sighting!
hey, dude!