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This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

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When was it ever not available to high earners?
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Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
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HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
You mean tax credits have not been available to high earners right?
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HokieFanDC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
You mean tax credits have not been available to high earners right?
Subsidies were not given to people who earn 400% of the FPL. That’s what I recall. So what is that? $100,000 or so for a family of 4?
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HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:43 am
HokieFanDC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
You mean tax credits have not been available to high earners right?
Subsidies were not given to people who earn 400% of the FPL. That’s what I recall. So what is that? $100,000 or so for a family of 4?
I wouldn't call that a high earner. As is the case with most things like that, income as a measure for all Americans is a poor metric. In almost any large city, $100k is ok, not great.
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ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
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HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:43 am
HokieFanDC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
You mean tax credits have not been available to high earners right?
Subsidies were not given to people who earn 400% of the FPL. That’s what I recall. So what is that? $100,000 or so for a family of 4?
It's capped at 8.5% of income on silver plans or cheaper for people making over 400% FPL. So someone making $500k would have to pay $42,500 in premiums on a silver plan before receiving any subsidy. The average silver plan for a family is $1,200 a month, so, no, someone making $500k is not getting subsidies.
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ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
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Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
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HokieFanDC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:03 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:43 am
HokieFanDC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
You mean tax credits have not been available to high earners right?
Subsidies were not given to people who earn 400% of the FPL. That’s what I recall. So what is that? $100,000 or so for a family of 4?
I wouldn't call that a high earner. As is the case with most things like that, income as a measure for all Americans is a poor metric. In almost any large city, $100k is ok, not great.
I’m not saying it’s a high earner.
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ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Disingeneous. No one has ever lacked for medical care, i.e. no one has ever allowed people to go untreated. It's a cost issue. Nothing more.
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133743Hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 pm
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.
What is the "big budget lie" that big state politicians have been using since the 90's to fund their laws? And why do high-earners now embrace government healthcare? Will the cost of maintaining the Medicare system lead to the financial collapse of our country?

Craig Gottwals, aka "Craig the Healthcare Guru", answers those questions in a new episode of A&G's Extra Large Podcast.
He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Disingeneous. No one has ever lacked for medical care, i.e. no one has ever allowed people to go untreated. It's a cost issue. Nothing more.
That’s actually exactly what I was saying, numbers.
With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:13 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:43 am
HokieFanDC wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:14 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:04 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 12:32 am When was it ever not available to high earners?
From the start.
You mean tax credits have not been available to high earners right?
Subsidies were not given to people who earn 400% of the FPL. That’s what I recall. So what is that? $100,000 or so for a family of 4?
It's capped at 8.5% of income on silver plans or cheaper for people making over 400% FPL. So someone making $500k would have to pay $42,500 in premiums on a silver plan before receiving any subsidy. The average silver plan for a family is $1,200 a month, so, no, someone making $500k is not getting subsidies.
So, you answered your own question.
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awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am
HokieHam wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 11:07 pm This is the interview I was talking about this morning.


He covers “The Bamboozling” bipartisanship........

Obamadon’tcare now available for persons who make $500,000. Apparently this guy nailed what would happen too Obamadon’tcare.

“The End” with $148T in unfunded liabilities.

Now you know why ip the libertarian is for single payer......we essentially become a socialized nation.

https://www.armstrongandgetty.com/featu ... lks-to-ag/
The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
Correct. And they believe with socialized medicine, there won’t be people going untreated......
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HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:27 pm
awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:55 am

The sooner we accept the notion that Americans are not going to allow people to go untreated, and figure out the most efficient way to achieve, the better off we will all be. Single payer.
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
Correct. And they believe with socialized medicine, there won’t be people going untreated......
So I take it none of y’all are going to be on Medicare when you retire (since it is “socialized” medical insurance)?
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hokie80 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:30 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:27 pm
awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
Correct. And they believe with socialized medicine, there won’t be people going untreated......
So I take it none of y’all are going to be on Medicare when you retire (since it is “socialized” medical insurance)?
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With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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hokie80 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:30 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:27 pm
awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am
Wrong. Don’t stop believing........
Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
Correct. And they believe with socialized medicine, there won’t be people going untreated......
So I take it none of y’all are going to be on Medicare when you retire (since it is “socialized” medical insurance)?
The hospital fund is going to run out of dough in the next few years. How is that socialized medicine working out?

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HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 4:24 pm
hokie80 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:30 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:27 pm
awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am
ip_law-hokie wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:05 am

Which part?
True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
Correct. And they believe with socialized medicine, there won’t be people going untreated......
So I take it none of y’all are going to be on Medicare when you retire (since it is “socialized” medical insurance)?
The hospital fund is going to run out of dough in the next few years. How is that socialized medicine working out?

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awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 4:28 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 4:24 pm
hokie80 wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:30 pm
HokieHam wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:27 pm
awesome guy wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am
Uprising wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 3:15 am

True Patriots™️ like him are happy to watch people go untreated and die?
True commies like you turds want to make treatment awful for everyone.
Correct. And they believe with socialized medicine, there won’t be people going untreated......
So I take it none of y’all are going to be on Medicare when you retire (since it is “socialized” medical insurance)?
The hospital fund is going to run out of dough in the next few years. How is that socialized medicine working out?

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Yup, dumb people want socialized medicine.
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People going “untreated”……it’s like we’re right about everything……

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HokieHam wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:35 pm People going “untreated”……it’s like we’re right about everything……


Buuuuuuh, Cana-duh and Your-up!

You socialized medicine/single payer fangirls are too ignorant to vote. I mean that literally.
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