HokieHam wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:01 pm
HokieFanDC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 7:47 pm
HokieHam wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2024 2:15 pm
HokieFanDC wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 8:33 pm
HokieHam wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:51 pm
HokieHam wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:33 pm
I think many of us, if not all of us wish this would happen……
You see, DC, this is ALSO my position on DrumpF!. But at the time I posted this, I had a feeling it wouldn’t be the case. I thought DeSantis would be a stronger candidate. He still needs some seasoning. Haley isn’t going to make it either…no matter what anyone thinks about her.
We still have 10 months to Election Day. Anything can happen. If it’s between DrumpF! And the current Potato, I’m hoping Tangerine Hitler takes the prize. And in the meantime, I hope the Pub Party is exposed for the members of the Uniparty they are part of…….and hint…….this is why people vote for Bad Orange Man. They didn’t learn the first time……have had 4 years to learn and are still clueless.
Your position on Trump is simply wishful thinking based on nothing. Trump doesn't care about the Pub Party, or the Uniparty, or dismantling any of it. Anything he says about them is simply to get votes. It doesn't, and won't ever, result in any changes.
So many people supporting Trump, hate Haley, but IMO, they are simply clueless NPCs.
Haley has one major area that I think she falls way short, and that's her view on armed conflicts. She's way too much of a hawk. When you ask people what they dislike about her, that's what you hear over and over again. And very little about anything else. Why? Because on almost every other stance, she's a tried and true conservative. Spending, abortion, immigration, entitlement reform, taxes, fuel independence, crime, term limits, foreign policy, just to name a few.
What does Trump care about? Himself. He did nothing of consequence on the items I listed above during his time as POTUS.
He talked about a few of them, but never actually did anything. The closest he got was the 2018 bill that he first said was a no-go, and then supported at the last minute. Wishy washy nonsense. Poor results.
There's a reason Trump isn't doing debates (which should be appalling to anyone voting). Because he has nothing to say, no ideas.
That's what you're supporting. A single idea that has no chance of materializing, and a whole bunch of nonsense otherwise.
Haley isn’t winning. She’s toast.
All your other stuff is noise……
Yep, Nikki is most likely toast.
All the other stuff is why the GOP and Trump voters are easily manipulated fools who can't think for themselves.
Notice no one could refute what I wrote, or counter with Trump's conservative chops.
Trump doesn't care about the Pub Party, or the Uniparty, or dismantling any of it. Anything he says about them is simply to get votes. It doesn't, and won't ever, result in any changes.
I’ve NEVER said he did or does. You have no idea if it will result in changes. There is a lot of shuffling going on in the Pub party with the establishment RINO types trying to stomp out any grassroots uprisings. It’s happening here in CO.
Haley has one major area that I think she falls way short, and that's her view on armed conflicts. She's way too much of a hawk. When you ask people what they dislike about her, that's what you hear over and over again. And very little about anything else. Why? Because on almost every other stance, she's a tried and true conservative. Spending, abortion, immigration, entitlement reform, taxes, fuel independence, crime, term limits, foreign policy, just to name a few.
She has capitulated on a few things because she know if she doesn’t, she won’t get $$$. This was discussed in another thread. She’s said more than just dumb shiRt about war…..speaking of foreign policy…….
What does Trump care about? Himself. He did nothing of consequence on the items I listed above during his time as POTUS.
That is just BS. He had RINOs in Congress against his agenda…….good grief……
There's a reason Trump isn't doing debates (which should be appalling to anyone voting). Because he has nothing to say, no ideas.
He’s not doing debates because he knows he’s going to be the R candidate.
That's what you're supporting. A single idea that has no chance of materializing, and a whole bunch of nonsense otherwise.
I’m not supporting anything……LOL.
Blaming it on RINOs is silly. Every POTUS has Congressmen that don't support his agenda. Trump's agenda, absent Congressional approval or not, had a lot of liberal leanings.
Spending policy (increase spending over and over, outspending Obama by a wide margin). Trade Policy (tariff wars - liberal tactic). Monetary Policy (artificially holding down inflation - liberal, not conservative). Foreign Policy (not necessarily, just stupid).
Here are the Senators who voted with Trump 90% or more of the time.
Tuberville, Sessions, Marshall, Cochran, Hatch, McSally, Perdue, Cramer, Roberts, Cornyn, Hoeven, Capito, Cruz, Isaksen, Hyde-Smith, Heller, Boozman, Thune, McConnell, Strange, Braun, Wicker, Shelby, Blunt, Tillis, Scott, Crappo, Rounds.
Voted with Trump 80-90% of the time.
James M. Inhofe, Richard Burr, Deb Fischer, John Barrasso, Bill Cassidy, Lamar Alexander,Michael B. Enzi,Dan Sullivan, Marsha Blackburn, Cory Gardner, Joni Ernst, Chuck Grassley, Rob Portman, James E. Risch, Marco Rubio, John Kennedy, Tom Cotton, James Lankford, Josh Hawley, Ron Johnson, Lindsey Graham, Patrick J. Toomey, Ben Sasse, Rick Scott, Bob Corker, Steve Daines, John McCain, Todd Young, Jeff Flake, Jerry Moran, Kelly Loeffler
Voted with Trump less than 80% of the time.
Romney, Lee, Murkowski, Kyl, Paul, Collins, Lummis.
That's 7 people who could not be counted on to vote with Trump's agenda. 93 of the 100 supported it 80% or more of the time. That's pretty supportive.
For the House, I can't list all the names, but during Trump's presidency, 93% of the House members voted with Trump 80% or more of the time. This covers the 2016 and 2018 terms.
There were 23 House members that didn't support him at least 80% of the time. I guess those would count as the RINOs, but there aren't many:
Jaime Herrera Beutler, Fred Upton, Elise Stefanik, John Katko, Thomas Massie, Mark Sanford, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Burgess Owens, Beth Van Duyne, Cliff Bentz, Chris Smith, Brian Fitzpatrick, Young Kim, Walter B. Jones, Tony Gonzales, Ashley Hinson, Mariannette Miller-Meeks, Randy Feenstra, Blake D. Moore, Nancy Mace, Andrew R. Garbarino, Victoria Spartz, Jeff Van Drew, Peter Meijer.
Some of the rightwings favorite "RINO" targets that voted with Trump 90% or more?
Adam Kinzinger 90%
Liz Cheney 93%
The term RINO has nothing to do with being a Republican and following Republican values. It has everything to do with fealty to Trump. The word is simply a pejorative for the MTGs of the world to use against a candidate not supported by idiots like her. And one of the outcomes of the proliferation of the RINO term, and the GOP pushing some of the MAGA idiots over "RINOs", is that the GOP majority is very tenuous. It's hurting the GOP, not helping.